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Seeing as though Africans taken to America were in some instances Muslims, and African Americans have been involved in Islam for a long time, why is it an occultist is credited with introducing the evil eye into African American circles? Unless there is some factual basis for this that I (in ignorance) have missed this seems to be a patronising passage that should be removed or at least verified.
I read most of the article and still don't understand. Is it a fae-like floating eye? Is it some invisible demon flashing looks at people? Is it just when one person looks at another with scorn? I have no clue if it is a person, thing, or idea. Is it a living thing in and of itself? Is it the way something expresses? The article is so very unclear. I have seen the talismans, but am not sure if they are the evil eye or not—and if not, how are they thought to work? Why an eye to guard against an eye?
It reminds me of "the game." As soon as you have thought about the game, you've lost the game. When you see one of those talismans you think about the evil eye, whatever that is, and otherwise, no one thinks about it. Which means the talisman rather than protecting people from a thing keep it fresh in mind all the time. Or maybe people were tricked by someone who wanted the evil eye to be everywhere and the talisman is the evil eye. Or does the talisman just stare back at the eye? Os ot like a weeping angel where you suffer if you blink while the eye is watching; so the talisman watches for you?
I just don't understand it at all because I never grew up with this folklore. So, those who do understand, please explain it as if you area talking to someone who has no clue. Because I don't have any. 2604:2D80:DE11:1300:ED2A:9572:F1A4:6B7C ( talk) 06:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I think that the Eye of Horus from ancient Egypt ( /info/en/?search=Eye_of_Horus) would be an earlier precedent than eye-cups. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanaoc ( talk • contribs) 21:35, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Neither of the examples cited in Protective Talismans and Cures > By Religion > In Christianity purporting to indicate Christianity's beliefs on the evil eye have anything to do with the subject. Luke 11:34 is not talking about the evil eye in the mythological/paranormal sense; it is essentially talking about the effects of turning one's "eye" towards things Jesus considered wicked. (See Pulpit Commentary on Luke 11:34 - "If they gave way to passion, jealousy, prejudice, impurity, lawlessness in its hundred forms, then for them the spiritual eye of the soul would become diseased, and therefore incapable of rightly discerning any heavenly sign. It was this danger that the Master was pointing out to the crowd.") Mark 7:22 is cited, because the Greek words ὀφθαλμὸς πονηρός literally translate "eye evil", but this is translated "envy" in most modern translations ( https://biblehub.com/mark/7-22.htm). Even if this were to be translated differently, the verse is a list of sins and is not talking about "the evil eye" in the sense of the supposed supernatural phenomenon. Zomwolf ( talk) 06:25, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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Seeing as though Africans taken to America were in some instances Muslims, and African Americans have been involved in Islam for a long time, why is it an occultist is credited with introducing the evil eye into African American circles? Unless there is some factual basis for this that I (in ignorance) have missed this seems to be a patronising passage that should be removed or at least verified.
I read most of the article and still don't understand. Is it a fae-like floating eye? Is it some invisible demon flashing looks at people? Is it just when one person looks at another with scorn? I have no clue if it is a person, thing, or idea. Is it a living thing in and of itself? Is it the way something expresses? The article is so very unclear. I have seen the talismans, but am not sure if they are the evil eye or not—and if not, how are they thought to work? Why an eye to guard against an eye?
It reminds me of "the game." As soon as you have thought about the game, you've lost the game. When you see one of those talismans you think about the evil eye, whatever that is, and otherwise, no one thinks about it. Which means the talisman rather than protecting people from a thing keep it fresh in mind all the time. Or maybe people were tricked by someone who wanted the evil eye to be everywhere and the talisman is the evil eye. Or does the talisman just stare back at the eye? Os ot like a weeping angel where you suffer if you blink while the eye is watching; so the talisman watches for you?
I just don't understand it at all because I never grew up with this folklore. So, those who do understand, please explain it as if you area talking to someone who has no clue. Because I don't have any. 2604:2D80:DE11:1300:ED2A:9572:F1A4:6B7C ( talk) 06:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I think that the Eye of Horus from ancient Egypt ( /info/en/?search=Eye_of_Horus) would be an earlier precedent than eye-cups. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanaoc ( talk • contribs) 21:35, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Neither of the examples cited in Protective Talismans and Cures > By Religion > In Christianity purporting to indicate Christianity's beliefs on the evil eye have anything to do with the subject. Luke 11:34 is not talking about the evil eye in the mythological/paranormal sense; it is essentially talking about the effects of turning one's "eye" towards things Jesus considered wicked. (See Pulpit Commentary on Luke 11:34 - "If they gave way to passion, jealousy, prejudice, impurity, lawlessness in its hundred forms, then for them the spiritual eye of the soul would become diseased, and therefore incapable of rightly discerning any heavenly sign. It was this danger that the Master was pointing out to the crowd.") Mark 7:22 is cited, because the Greek words ὀφθαλμὸς πονηρός literally translate "eye evil", but this is translated "envy" in most modern translations ( https://biblehub.com/mark/7-22.htm). Even if this were to be translated differently, the verse is a list of sins and is not talking about "the evil eye" in the sense of the supposed supernatural phenomenon. Zomwolf ( talk) 06:25, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 January 2024 and 10 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Kendra.Moreno ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Kendra.Moreno ( talk) 21:52, 21 April 2024 (UTC)