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It's a bunch of accusations without any evidence. A report that "people think" this is happening, without any evidence, is a conspiracy theory.
The first reference " http://www.mvr.bg/en/AboutUs/StructuralUnits/National+MoI+Services/GDBOP/default.htm" doesn't reinforce any statements made in the preceding sentence.
The second source requires a subscription and seems to be based only on the opinion of one man. I wouldn't call this entirely factual. http://www.dnevnik.bg/bulgaria/2013/03/06/2016702_aleksei_petrov_ako_brendo_progovori_za_borisov_i/ ?
The fourth source came back as a 404 error. http://www.pik.bg/emanuil-jordanov-tsvetanov-se-izkazva-kato-shef-na-rpu-slava-bogu-otiva-si . Personally, I don't think Tsvetan Tsvetanov has a very neutral opinion on this topic, so I don't think we should be using this article.
-- Kndimov ( talk) 20:27, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
It's time to squarely address the various issues this article faces, and answer some basic questions of who, what, why, when and where:
1. Where is Banev now? Reliable sources indicate that he was convicted for cocaine trafficking in Italy in July 2013 -- is he currently serving prison time in Italy? Please link sources immediately below.
2. What is the status of Banev's criminal conviction in Bulgaria? The trial court conviction was apparently overturned on appeal, but it the appellate court decision was apparently overturned on further appeal by Bulgaria's highest court. Was the original conviction reinstated, or did the high court remand the case for further action by the lower courts? Does the conviction stand or not? Please link sources immediately below.
3. What is the status of Banev's criminal indictment in Switzerland? Does the indictment still stand? Has the case proceeded to trial? Please link sources immediately below.
4. What is the status of Banev's criminal indictment in Romania? Does the indictment still stand? Has the case proceeded to trial? Please link sources immediately below.
This article needs the attention of objective, third-party editors who have not been involved in the slow-rolling edit war since January 2015. It would also be helpful if we requested the assistance of an editor with English and Bulgarian language skills, because it appears than many of the news sources are in Bulgarian. An editor with a knowledge of Italian might be helpful, too. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 18:33, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
The section titled "Kidnapping of Banev's daughter" appears to have very little to do with Banev. It could probably be summarized in 1-2 sentences. Thoughts? CorporateM ( Talk) 19:21, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I got some pings at the noticeboard and noticed numerous, drastic edits in article-space that took place without Talk page discussion. Given that there are multiple editors involved, the topics are complex, etc. I think it would be better to focus on one section at-a-time and to start discussions on the Talk page before making bold edits. This prevents edit-wars and results in more collaborative editing. CorporateM ( Talk) 16:50, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
I have temporarily removed the following from the article, pending (a) determination of the reliability of the Bulgarian-language source, and (b) confirmation of a correct quotation and translation of the Italian judge's comment regarding the use of circumstantial evidence in the Italian trial that resulted in Banev's conviction and sentencing to 20 years:
I am a practicing lawyer in two U.S. states, and I can tell you that accused persons are convicted every day in the United States solely on the basis of circumstantial evidence -- with no direct eyewitness testimony -- and this is not in the least bit unusual. If I understand the Italian judge's comments correctly -- and I am reading an English translation (via Google Translate) of a Bulgarian translation of an Italian's judge's comments in Italian -- he is saying that Banev has different appeals options to challenge such circumstantial evidence, and that may impact the length of his 20-year sentence on appeal. But let's be perfectly clear: the Italian trial court convicted Banev for drug-trafficking and sentenced him to 20 years in 2013, and the conviction was already upheld on appeal in 2014. As I understand it, there is now a second appeal pending, but his status in Italy is convicted.
It would also be helpful if we could find the Italian judge's original comments in Italian media and translate them directly from Italian into English. I have also requested the assitance of a Wikipedia editor with Bulgarian-language skills. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 22:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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Significant changes (including the restoration of poorly translated/mistranslated text and the deletion of top-tier English language reliable sources such as the BBC) have been made to this article in the past two or three days. The net effect is to completely exonerate the subject from previous criminal charges, when, in fact, Italy's supreme court has ordered him to be retried. This needs to be clarified, and the mistranslated comments by the Italian judge need to be corrected. This article is not the subject's facebook page, and the hagiographic graphic discussion of his junior sports career and self-published novel need to restored to the NPOV-compliant text that previously existed. Be prepared for significant changes in the next few days. The current version is a mess. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 07:23, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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It's a bunch of accusations without any evidence. A report that "people think" this is happening, without any evidence, is a conspiracy theory.
The first reference " http://www.mvr.bg/en/AboutUs/StructuralUnits/National+MoI+Services/GDBOP/default.htm" doesn't reinforce any statements made in the preceding sentence.
The second source requires a subscription and seems to be based only on the opinion of one man. I wouldn't call this entirely factual. http://www.dnevnik.bg/bulgaria/2013/03/06/2016702_aleksei_petrov_ako_brendo_progovori_za_borisov_i/ ?
The fourth source came back as a 404 error. http://www.pik.bg/emanuil-jordanov-tsvetanov-se-izkazva-kato-shef-na-rpu-slava-bogu-otiva-si . Personally, I don't think Tsvetan Tsvetanov has a very neutral opinion on this topic, so I don't think we should be using this article.
-- Kndimov ( talk) 20:27, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
It's time to squarely address the various issues this article faces, and answer some basic questions of who, what, why, when and where:
1. Where is Banev now? Reliable sources indicate that he was convicted for cocaine trafficking in Italy in July 2013 -- is he currently serving prison time in Italy? Please link sources immediately below.
2. What is the status of Banev's criminal conviction in Bulgaria? The trial court conviction was apparently overturned on appeal, but it the appellate court decision was apparently overturned on further appeal by Bulgaria's highest court. Was the original conviction reinstated, or did the high court remand the case for further action by the lower courts? Does the conviction stand or not? Please link sources immediately below.
3. What is the status of Banev's criminal indictment in Switzerland? Does the indictment still stand? Has the case proceeded to trial? Please link sources immediately below.
4. What is the status of Banev's criminal indictment in Romania? Does the indictment still stand? Has the case proceeded to trial? Please link sources immediately below.
This article needs the attention of objective, third-party editors who have not been involved in the slow-rolling edit war since January 2015. It would also be helpful if we requested the assistance of an editor with English and Bulgarian language skills, because it appears than many of the news sources are in Bulgarian. An editor with a knowledge of Italian might be helpful, too. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 18:33, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
The section titled "Kidnapping of Banev's daughter" appears to have very little to do with Banev. It could probably be summarized in 1-2 sentences. Thoughts? CorporateM ( Talk) 19:21, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I got some pings at the noticeboard and noticed numerous, drastic edits in article-space that took place without Talk page discussion. Given that there are multiple editors involved, the topics are complex, etc. I think it would be better to focus on one section at-a-time and to start discussions on the Talk page before making bold edits. This prevents edit-wars and results in more collaborative editing. CorporateM ( Talk) 16:50, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
I have temporarily removed the following from the article, pending (a) determination of the reliability of the Bulgarian-language source, and (b) confirmation of a correct quotation and translation of the Italian judge's comment regarding the use of circumstantial evidence in the Italian trial that resulted in Banev's conviction and sentencing to 20 years:
I am a practicing lawyer in two U.S. states, and I can tell you that accused persons are convicted every day in the United States solely on the basis of circumstantial evidence -- with no direct eyewitness testimony -- and this is not in the least bit unusual. If I understand the Italian judge's comments correctly -- and I am reading an English translation (via Google Translate) of a Bulgarian translation of an Italian's judge's comments in Italian -- he is saying that Banev has different appeals options to challenge such circumstantial evidence, and that may impact the length of his 20-year sentence on appeal. But let's be perfectly clear: the Italian trial court convicted Banev for drug-trafficking and sentenced him to 20 years in 2013, and the conviction was already upheld on appeal in 2014. As I understand it, there is now a second appeal pending, but his status in Italy is convicted.
It would also be helpful if we could find the Italian judge's original comments in Italian media and translate them directly from Italian into English. I have also requested the assitance of a Wikipedia editor with Bulgarian-language skills. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 22:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
References
Significant changes (including the restoration of poorly translated/mistranslated text and the deletion of top-tier English language reliable sources such as the BBC) have been made to this article in the past two or three days. The net effect is to completely exonerate the subject from previous criminal charges, when, in fact, Italy's supreme court has ordered him to be retried. This needs to be clarified, and the mistranslated comments by the Italian judge need to be corrected. This article is not the subject's facebook page, and the hagiographic graphic discussion of his junior sports career and self-published novel need to restored to the NPOV-compliant text that previously existed. Be prepared for significant changes in the next few days. The current version is a mess. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 07:23, 28 September 2015 (UTC)