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I changed the text of one paragraph from this:
to this:
In other words, I am removing the claim that Küng (and similar thinkers) cannot be termed "Catholics". This is equivalent to saying that Küng has been excommunicated, and this is a complicated issue.
I do agree with you that Küng, in his book Infallible: An Inquiry, clearly rejects the doctrine of papal infallibility. Indeed, he rejects conciliar infallibility and the infallibility of the ordinary and universal magisterium as well. And I agree that any common-sense interpretation of this means he is under the anathema of Vatican I's declaration, which makes him materially a heretic. If he is also a formal heretic -- in other words, if he is rejecting this Catholic truth in full knowledge of what it says and its dogmatic status -- then he is subject to automatic excommunication (Heresy is on the list of things that result in automatic excommunication -- see Excommunication#Automatic excommunication.
But under canon law, we cannot assume that he is formally a heretic just because he is materially a heretic. He has to be convicted in a heresy trial in a court of canon law for this to be taken as an established fact. I think it would be easy to convict him, because his book makes clear that he does understand the doctrine that he disagrees with. But without a trial, canon law stipulates that he must get the benefit of the doubt, so we can't assume he has been self-excommunicated. (Of course, he could be excommunicated by the Pope or his own bishop without a trial, but that hasn't happened either.)
So it is best to state in this article that Hans Küng's viewpoint is heresy, rather than to state that the man himself has been excommunicated latae sententiae. Note that the Vatican has not ever treated him as an exommunicate: in fact, Küng still has his priestly faculties, even though he lost his license to teach as a Catholic theologian.
-- Lawrence King 08:14, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
I added a sentence on the death penalty. JP2's stance opposing the death penalty is widely known, and one of his most frequently cited texts on the subject is this encyclical (§ 56). -- IdahoUD 12:46, 12 May 2006
Opposition to War is in the document once, directly: Evangelium Vitae §§ 1 : "Among the signs of hope we should also count the spread, at many levels of public opinion, of a new sensitivity ever more opposed to war as an instrument for the resolution of conflicts between peoples, and increasingly oriented to finding effective but "non-violent" means to counter the armed aggressor."
Evangelium vitae Crusadestudent ( talk) 08:25, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
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I changed the text of one paragraph from this:
to this:
In other words, I am removing the claim that Küng (and similar thinkers) cannot be termed "Catholics". This is equivalent to saying that Küng has been excommunicated, and this is a complicated issue.
I do agree with you that Küng, in his book Infallible: An Inquiry, clearly rejects the doctrine of papal infallibility. Indeed, he rejects conciliar infallibility and the infallibility of the ordinary and universal magisterium as well. And I agree that any common-sense interpretation of this means he is under the anathema of Vatican I's declaration, which makes him materially a heretic. If he is also a formal heretic -- in other words, if he is rejecting this Catholic truth in full knowledge of what it says and its dogmatic status -- then he is subject to automatic excommunication (Heresy is on the list of things that result in automatic excommunication -- see Excommunication#Automatic excommunication.
But under canon law, we cannot assume that he is formally a heretic just because he is materially a heretic. He has to be convicted in a heresy trial in a court of canon law for this to be taken as an established fact. I think it would be easy to convict him, because his book makes clear that he does understand the doctrine that he disagrees with. But without a trial, canon law stipulates that he must get the benefit of the doubt, so we can't assume he has been self-excommunicated. (Of course, he could be excommunicated by the Pope or his own bishop without a trial, but that hasn't happened either.)
So it is best to state in this article that Hans Küng's viewpoint is heresy, rather than to state that the man himself has been excommunicated latae sententiae. Note that the Vatican has not ever treated him as an exommunicate: in fact, Küng still has his priestly faculties, even though he lost his license to teach as a Catholic theologian.
-- Lawrence King 08:14, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
I added a sentence on the death penalty. JP2's stance opposing the death penalty is widely known, and one of his most frequently cited texts on the subject is this encyclical (§ 56). -- IdahoUD 12:46, 12 May 2006
Opposition to War is in the document once, directly: Evangelium Vitae §§ 1 : "Among the signs of hope we should also count the spread, at many levels of public opinion, of a new sensitivity ever more opposed to war as an instrument for the resolution of conflicts between peoples, and increasingly oriented to finding effective but "non-violent" means to counter the armed aggressor."
Evangelium vitae Crusadestudent ( talk) 08:25, 8 May 2016 (UTC)