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Much of the content on this page came from the (now-removed) merged article "List of Eva-Units in Neon Genesis Evangelion", which is now available at Talk:Evangelion (giant robot)/List of Eva-Units in Neon Genesis Evangelion. Do not delete that page - we need it (and its history) for Wikipedia copyright reasons! Noel (talk) 19:12, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The countries listed for the G7 countries are one more than the actual count of G7 countries (Russia wasn't part of the G7). Does it mean G8, which includes Russia? Did G8 form before or after End of Eva was made? - ℘yrop (talk) 19:19, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)
Considering the information that the authors of this page have presented, which is well known and documented in the fan community, what on Earth is the justification for referring in the title to the Evangelions as giant robots? Giant bio-engineered artificial humanoids comes closer. They are no more robots than the authors of this page, or the readers of it. (talk) 08:34, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)
The paragraph in question is:
My reasons for removing this is, firstly, because it is not officially stated nor inferred. There has been no evidence, shown in the series, for suggesting that his sister's soul has been transplanted into Unit 03. Secondly, Touji's sister was reported to be alive and well by Episode 03 from Kensuke's line, "He said that his younger sister scolded him. She told him that it was the robot that saved our lives." Her injuries were physical, caused by being crushed by debris. If she was well enough to talk with an attitude, it can be assumed that she has stabilized. After that, there has been practically no mention of her condition changing. Touji next appears in ep. 6, he was cheering for Shinji. Ep. 7, he was harping on Misato. Ep. 8, he was annoyed at Asuka. Ep. 9, he was upset with Shinji having to live with Asuka. Ep. 10, he goes on a school trip. Ep. 12, he congratulates Misato for having become a Major. Ep. 15, he knocks Shinji for not cleaning the classroom. Ep. 17, he is recruited for Unit 03. These are his only appearances, and as can be seen, no one of his behaviors indicate anything wrong. If anything wrong did happen to his sister, he would have known right away since he visits her frequently. He pilots Eva because he only wanted better facilities for her. His last words were "Why don't you tell my sister that there's nothing seriously wrong with me?" indicated that when he last remembered, his sister was still functioning, mentally, well enough. Lastly, assuming there is a soul to whom he would be close to, it would most likely be his mother, since it was indicated that he had no mother. In other words, the speculation is just too unsupported and insignificant to be included in the entry. If we were to let this sort of thing from happening, we might as well speculate that Rei likes rock music because she never said she didn't like it. I hope you understand, Ken. -Anon
I personally think it is much more probable that Unit 03 contained the soul of Toji's mother. Every other classmate in Shinji's school had a dead mother (Hikari, Kensuke) and I think it was implied that so did Toji. Toji's sister was alive even after Unit 03 was destroyed, and although (as seen with Asuka's mother) you can use part of a soul and leave someone biologically alive, I don't think they needed to do that; plus I think it specifically needs to be the mother. Of course, this is just speculation.--
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
09:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
With Toji's sister making an appearance in Rebuild 2.0, this speculation is now officially refuted.-- 89.147.118.135 ( talk) 01:47, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
I had a discussion with User:Toiletduck regarding the consistency of the way the Evangelions should be addressed, and we agreed to the rules he outlined. However the information here says that the official way of addressing the Evas should be Unit n, and I believe that, given the source of the information, that this should be made the standard way of addressing the Evas across all the Neon Genesis Evangelion article. So, should the naming convention outlined here be made the standard one for all the articles? -- cheese-cube 09:50, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
The image being used for Eva-04 is actually a fan illustration created by Maher Al-Samkari, author of the Evangelion based fanfiction "Eva:R" (www.eva-r.com). While the drawing of "MARI" (Mobile Armored Reconnassance and Infantry) is based on an offical Eva-04 illustration by Gainax, I think it goes without saying that it's not appropriate to be using this particular image. That image should be redirected to an Eva:R wikipedia entry, and the official Gainax image (there is only one official one, to my knowledge) should be used in its place.
I've removed the image of Eva 04 that was being used: Eva 04 is silver, not white. I don't see how continuing to use an incorrect image will help that. -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 15:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
We seriously need to find a better picture of Eva 04 which shows its true silver color, not white. Frankly I'd take an action figure picture at this point. -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 13:03, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
They're Evas of the new remake. I know there is at least an image of Eva unit 00, 01, and 02 together. The Eva images could stay, but only if they were together which would be difficult. Let's wait until they reveal the recent one correctly. Bread Ninja ( talk) 04:13, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
In this article there seems to be an explicit relationship between the S² engine and an angels ability to regenerate, with the eva series being treated as an anomaly, however I wonder if this is the case. Firstly, regeneration is taken to be an ability posessed by all angels even though it is only demonstrated by two of them (the 3rd and the 7th). I can't complain about this because in the first episode this ability seems to have been be already known and documented by NERV. However it is unclear whether it is supposed to be different or more profound than the natural regenerative capabilities of any living creature. There is certainly no instance of the almost instant regeneration displayed by unit 01, with Israfel requiring six days to restore itself completely. Secondly, I can't find any other reference to the phenomenon of regeneration being related to the S² organ, either in the series or in the fan community. That's not to say it's not there, which is why I haven't removed the connections made in the article. I was just wondering if anyone knew why that link was made in the first place. As a final note, Unit 01's regeneration in episode 14 is definitely not brought about by the S² organ, as it regrows its arm before assimilating the S² from Zeruel. - User:McFaust 03:32, 24 December 2005
each Eva should have an image in their sections... (00 should have two, one blue, one orange)
Shouldn't 00, 01, and 02 have separate articles? I noticed that other anime series have articles for individual mecha (especially the over-articled Gundam Seed). 67.71.170.108 15:11, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
I just re-watched the first 24 episodes of the anime, and found no inconsistencies with the heights of the Evangelion. They were always, always, always roughly 40 meters tall. (That translates to roughly 10 stories of a building.) Any appearances of greater height seem to be just that -- "camera" tricks, combined with the fact that 40 meters is truly, awesomely, nearly inconceivably tall. Even the scene with the destroyers - those are about 15 meters breadth, IRL. For the Evangelions, that would be a little more than shoulder width! Anyhow, I'm definitely going to adjust the main article to reflect this. Too many people (in fanfiction) are arbitrarily setting the 200m mark as though it has as much support as the 40m mark. (As of yet, I've seen nothing to support it. Then, I haven't gone and re-watched the various end-of-evangelions.) -- Obsidian-fox 10:16, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Why is "Reigoki" used along with "Shugouki" and "Nigouki"? The Japanese dialogue actually SAYS "Shugouki" and "Nigouki" but for Unit Zero they say "Zerogouki," not "Reigouki." Repeatedly. In fact, I've never heard them use Reigouki, ever. Is this in the manga or something? Is it possibly just reading the kanji for zero as "rei" even though they decided to just use a kanji for the word zero? I've noticed that the Evangelion-related entries consistently reference "Reigouki" (the Rei Ayanami article for example) so I figured I'd ask first. 72.192.237.134 00:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC) Ismail
Mike;
it really is inconceivably tall. the sheer weight of something that large would topple buildings and everything around it. Here's a good way to find it's size: Get a picture of the head next to the pilot. This would show the head being abouth four meters or 12 feet. This is about the same size of a larger gundam unit.
Is there an explanation for why the MP Evas are able to reactivate after being killed? (since it is said that their S2 organs do not regenerate)-- Dch111 23:00, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Not really, but I think that they're more versitile and can live without certain parts of their bodies. However, you should notice that none of them had their core broken, so they didn't really die and at the end when they impale themselves with the lances of longinus they don't reactivate. -- L337M4G3 7:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Just a thought. It is the only true mecha of the series.
While I can't argue with the logic, I think it's a little excessive to note it in the article, as I don't think their Unit #s are ever discussed in canon. Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 17:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Should this page be named "Mecha?" Evangelion Units aren't really mecha. They are mostly organic, closer really to cyborgs than robots. If a sutable term cannoth be agreedd on I suppose it's ok, but the title is sort of misleading. ( Animedude 08:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC))
While Evangelions are mostly-organic cyborgs and not "machines", the series was directly meant to be a sort of satire/breaking conventions of the "Giant Mecha" genre. The same debate might be raised for "can we say Farscape is "a Space Opera set on a spaceship, if spaceships are machines and Moya is organic?" Evangelions should be categorized under wikipedia's "mecha" category because 1-it's not like there's another large category to put it in; we aren't arguing Giant Mecha vs. Real Mecha; instead, the "category" Eva would fit in would be so specific that no one could easily find it. 2-it's clearly meant to be playing on the conventions of the "Giant Mecha" genre, and thus falls in that category. -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici ( talk) 18:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
In the article the Evas are call cybernetic but (to my knowledge) that word has never been used. Ritsuko used the term “synthetic being” and the manga used biomechanical, so wouldn’t these be better terms? The Twilight Goddess 00:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
'Somewhat decent' is a pretty ambiguous way of describing an armour's effectiveness. I feel justified in describing the limits of its effectiveness. I am, of course, open to constructive criticism. Also, regardless of their classification as mechas, i think it's also important to note the fact that this classification is, indeed, debated.
Minor compared to other eva 'issues' you say, willbyr? So are you fine with classifying whales as fish? Or maybe we should just call them 'obese dolphins'. May i suggest you ask for feedback from other users before making changes based purely on personal bias? 203.54.235.69 06:45, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Can someone that can read kanji go here and verify that the two new Eva units featured in this game are named "The First Type" and "The Second Type", as is suggested in the game's article? The other link in the article is to a gaming blog that doesn't seem to give any really useful information. Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 20:33, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Why was the image of Unit 01 deleted? I thought I had the fair use covered on all the images, especially the screenshots from the series... Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 22:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Assuming you all have desires to see this article advance, I'd recommend significant copy editing, particularly in light of WP:LEAD. jddphd ( talk · contribs) 03:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
For the discussion about culling excessive non-free images from the Evangelion articles, see here. Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 12:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure how to word it and I'm uncertain whether it's worth pointing out, but Unit 00 is the only Eva that never opens its mouth. I thought that was a bit odd. Hellbus ( talk) 23:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
i think a better name should be suited for this article. i suggest we name it "List of Mechas in Neon Genesis Evangelion. Sound good to all of you? Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
If we summarize the glossary by moving items to a more better suited area then we mightmove all articles to GA. which is WP:EVA's goal is it not? Anyways, are you in favor of the name change? Bread Ninja ( talk) 19:25, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
For now this article will be solely dedicated to EVAS. other objects that are not EVAS do not come in unless related to EVAS. the original plan was to organize the article and remove unnecessary details. Considering the evangelions or quasi-Angels are more known as "EVAS" i think we should name is list of EVAS of NGE. Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Because the name is confusing. Also we could put this as a List article, so list of EVAs in NGE is a better title. Evangelion (mecha) would be confusing and the word Evangelion is also one of the names of the series and albums. the Evangelions are also so most commonly known as "EVAs" in both the anime and to the public. Evangelion (mecha) would be confusing
If we can, we can add the weapons EVAs use onto here if possible. Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:17, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
true, but like i said, it's more appropriate to go by "list of NGE [insert here]" or "List of [insert here] in neon genesis evangelion". it's the same reason why Angel (Neon Genesis Evangelion) was moved to List of Angels in Neon Genesis Evangelion. merely saying (mecha) in the end wont help.
also, the title insist in being singular rather than plural. Which might make some or all readers believe that the article is about only one evangelion, or that only one exist in the entire NGE series. that's why "list of NGE evangelion" or "list of NGE Evangelions" would be most appropriate, considering that the name is much more clearer and easier to understand. Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
What I like about the current article and title is that it clearly conveys that it's a specific important NGE concept; 'list' just sounds like a grab-bag of random material, with no focus, theme, or unifying idea. And bringing in Jet Alone and Trident lumps them in with things they shouldn't be lumped in with. Any Eva is more important than those 2 put together (they have zero relevance to the overall plot). -- Gwern (contribs) 14:25 12 January 2010 (GMT)
i had thought the same about the main article, but everyone disagreed (not including that IP). it's not as clear as you think. like i said before the name is singular, not plural, which would confuse some people seeing as how there are many articles named "Evangelion". 'List' is more than just listing, you would mention concept designs, terminology or other. the thing is, this article is already in a form of list. Also EVAs are important, but that would be opinion. they are just giant beings people ride on. adding all mechas here wouldn't hurt. we could divide them into sections, evangelions in one, and trident and jet alone in "other", and why shouldn't they be lumped together? they are all mechas. It's just like List of Hollows in Bleach, even though the list talks about hollows in general, there is more mention of Arrancars because they have had great importance in the plot, while other hollows that have obtained notability to be mentioned are merely in "other". Same could work here. Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:24, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
After removing some trivial and original research info on the Details section (which i might change the section title for something more broad), i see now that the kanji isn't a separate name form the English name. therefore i will but nihongo templates onto the names. I also removed heavy original research and some trivial information that will not help the sections. there is still some original research but left it in because i thought it could be verified. Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Also evangelions are most commonly known as EVA not evangelions. So I'll change all of it to EVA. And i do need a little help finding Evangelion kanji. Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:22, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm not so sure, but EVAs seem to be more known for in google and i'm not so sure how to use CSE hits. Anyways, in-universe they are most commonly known as EVAs aswell. i hardly heard the term "evangelion" within the series Bread Ninja ( talk) 03:31, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
[07:54 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R EVA literal-translationp/*|grep -v 'EVANGELION'|wc 41 371 3340 [07:55 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R Eva literal-translationp/*|grep -v 'Evangelion'|wc 285 2506 22358 [07:55 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R EVA adv-platinum/*|grep -v 'EVANGELION'|wc 0 0 0 [07:56 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R Eva adv-platinum/*|grep -v 'Evangelion'|wc 291 2434 22674 [07:57 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R EVAs adv-platinum/*|grep -v 'EVANGELION'|wc 0 0 0 [07:57 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R Evas adv-platinum/*|grep -v 'Evangelion'|wc 51 413 4053 [08:25 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R EVAs literal-translationp/*|grep -v 'EVANGELION'|wc 3 36 275 [08:25 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R Evas literal-translationp/*|grep -v 'Evangelion'|wc 19 174 1475
i'm not trying to assume anything other than what is shown in front of me. But anyways, it doesn't matter if they are all caps or not. i thought in the subs, they were shown with all caps. Plus i thought EVA was written in there capsules aswell. Bread Ninja ( talk) 01:01, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
acronyms usually have periods under them. i'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing, please assume good faith. I don't think it matters whether its easier to write and Easier to read is matter of opinion. You seem to ignore the sub and capsule statement. but again, it doesn't really matter. so your last post was just unecessary Bread Ninja ( talk) 21:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
what i mean by "it doesn't matter", i'm basically saying it's alright to change it to Eva. but we can't ignore that there are results with them being referred to EVA so it should still be mentioned in there. Bread Ninja ( talk) 22:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
There are some fan speculation about the sudden appearance of this Eva. More specifically, it has been noted that Unit 08's head armor is somewhat similar to Unit 01's godlike form at the Rebuild of Evangelion 2.0 finale. There are rumors that it might actually be Unit 01 in a different armor to restrain it, like what the tons of bandages were used for in episode 20. Can anyone confirm or refute that? If it turns out to be untrue then it will most likely be piloted by either Mari or Rei since they both lost their respective Evas (Unit 05 is gone completely while Unit 00 only has a pair of legs left - WAY beyond the Hayflick limit). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.147.118.135 ( talk) 09:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Added all the Evas that appear in 3.0 and gave them their own section; as the film just came out, there aren't many (if any) options for citing sources yet. Still, make sure any information you might add is actually in the film because there's lots of misleading speculation among non-Japanese sources; that will most likely remain so until the official English release which is not announced yet.-- Amitakartok ( talk) 17:46, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
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Much of the content on this page came from the (now-removed) merged article "List of Eva-Units in Neon Genesis Evangelion", which is now available at Talk:Evangelion (giant robot)/List of Eva-Units in Neon Genesis Evangelion. Do not delete that page - we need it (and its history) for Wikipedia copyright reasons! Noel (talk) 19:12, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The countries listed for the G7 countries are one more than the actual count of G7 countries (Russia wasn't part of the G7). Does it mean G8, which includes Russia? Did G8 form before or after End of Eva was made? - ℘yrop (talk) 19:19, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)
Considering the information that the authors of this page have presented, which is well known and documented in the fan community, what on Earth is the justification for referring in the title to the Evangelions as giant robots? Giant bio-engineered artificial humanoids comes closer. They are no more robots than the authors of this page, or the readers of it. (talk) 08:34, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)
The paragraph in question is:
My reasons for removing this is, firstly, because it is not officially stated nor inferred. There has been no evidence, shown in the series, for suggesting that his sister's soul has been transplanted into Unit 03. Secondly, Touji's sister was reported to be alive and well by Episode 03 from Kensuke's line, "He said that his younger sister scolded him. She told him that it was the robot that saved our lives." Her injuries were physical, caused by being crushed by debris. If she was well enough to talk with an attitude, it can be assumed that she has stabilized. After that, there has been practically no mention of her condition changing. Touji next appears in ep. 6, he was cheering for Shinji. Ep. 7, he was harping on Misato. Ep. 8, he was annoyed at Asuka. Ep. 9, he was upset with Shinji having to live with Asuka. Ep. 10, he goes on a school trip. Ep. 12, he congratulates Misato for having become a Major. Ep. 15, he knocks Shinji for not cleaning the classroom. Ep. 17, he is recruited for Unit 03. These are his only appearances, and as can be seen, no one of his behaviors indicate anything wrong. If anything wrong did happen to his sister, he would have known right away since he visits her frequently. He pilots Eva because he only wanted better facilities for her. His last words were "Why don't you tell my sister that there's nothing seriously wrong with me?" indicated that when he last remembered, his sister was still functioning, mentally, well enough. Lastly, assuming there is a soul to whom he would be close to, it would most likely be his mother, since it was indicated that he had no mother. In other words, the speculation is just too unsupported and insignificant to be included in the entry. If we were to let this sort of thing from happening, we might as well speculate that Rei likes rock music because she never said she didn't like it. I hope you understand, Ken. -Anon
I personally think it is much more probable that Unit 03 contained the soul of Toji's mother. Every other classmate in Shinji's school had a dead mother (Hikari, Kensuke) and I think it was implied that so did Toji. Toji's sister was alive even after Unit 03 was destroyed, and although (as seen with Asuka's mother) you can use part of a soul and leave someone biologically alive, I don't think they needed to do that; plus I think it specifically needs to be the mother. Of course, this is just speculation.--
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
09:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
With Toji's sister making an appearance in Rebuild 2.0, this speculation is now officially refuted.-- 89.147.118.135 ( talk) 01:47, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
I had a discussion with User:Toiletduck regarding the consistency of the way the Evangelions should be addressed, and we agreed to the rules he outlined. However the information here says that the official way of addressing the Evas should be Unit n, and I believe that, given the source of the information, that this should be made the standard way of addressing the Evas across all the Neon Genesis Evangelion article. So, should the naming convention outlined here be made the standard one for all the articles? -- cheese-cube 09:50, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
The image being used for Eva-04 is actually a fan illustration created by Maher Al-Samkari, author of the Evangelion based fanfiction "Eva:R" (www.eva-r.com). While the drawing of "MARI" (Mobile Armored Reconnassance and Infantry) is based on an offical Eva-04 illustration by Gainax, I think it goes without saying that it's not appropriate to be using this particular image. That image should be redirected to an Eva:R wikipedia entry, and the official Gainax image (there is only one official one, to my knowledge) should be used in its place.
I've removed the image of Eva 04 that was being used: Eva 04 is silver, not white. I don't see how continuing to use an incorrect image will help that. -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 15:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
We seriously need to find a better picture of Eva 04 which shows its true silver color, not white. Frankly I'd take an action figure picture at this point. -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 13:03, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
They're Evas of the new remake. I know there is at least an image of Eva unit 00, 01, and 02 together. The Eva images could stay, but only if they were together which would be difficult. Let's wait until they reveal the recent one correctly. Bread Ninja ( talk) 04:13, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
In this article there seems to be an explicit relationship between the S² engine and an angels ability to regenerate, with the eva series being treated as an anomaly, however I wonder if this is the case. Firstly, regeneration is taken to be an ability posessed by all angels even though it is only demonstrated by two of them (the 3rd and the 7th). I can't complain about this because in the first episode this ability seems to have been be already known and documented by NERV. However it is unclear whether it is supposed to be different or more profound than the natural regenerative capabilities of any living creature. There is certainly no instance of the almost instant regeneration displayed by unit 01, with Israfel requiring six days to restore itself completely. Secondly, I can't find any other reference to the phenomenon of regeneration being related to the S² organ, either in the series or in the fan community. That's not to say it's not there, which is why I haven't removed the connections made in the article. I was just wondering if anyone knew why that link was made in the first place. As a final note, Unit 01's regeneration in episode 14 is definitely not brought about by the S² organ, as it regrows its arm before assimilating the S² from Zeruel. - User:McFaust 03:32, 24 December 2005
each Eva should have an image in their sections... (00 should have two, one blue, one orange)
Shouldn't 00, 01, and 02 have separate articles? I noticed that other anime series have articles for individual mecha (especially the over-articled Gundam Seed). 67.71.170.108 15:11, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
I just re-watched the first 24 episodes of the anime, and found no inconsistencies with the heights of the Evangelion. They were always, always, always roughly 40 meters tall. (That translates to roughly 10 stories of a building.) Any appearances of greater height seem to be just that -- "camera" tricks, combined with the fact that 40 meters is truly, awesomely, nearly inconceivably tall. Even the scene with the destroyers - those are about 15 meters breadth, IRL. For the Evangelions, that would be a little more than shoulder width! Anyhow, I'm definitely going to adjust the main article to reflect this. Too many people (in fanfiction) are arbitrarily setting the 200m mark as though it has as much support as the 40m mark. (As of yet, I've seen nothing to support it. Then, I haven't gone and re-watched the various end-of-evangelions.) -- Obsidian-fox 10:16, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Why is "Reigoki" used along with "Shugouki" and "Nigouki"? The Japanese dialogue actually SAYS "Shugouki" and "Nigouki" but for Unit Zero they say "Zerogouki," not "Reigouki." Repeatedly. In fact, I've never heard them use Reigouki, ever. Is this in the manga or something? Is it possibly just reading the kanji for zero as "rei" even though they decided to just use a kanji for the word zero? I've noticed that the Evangelion-related entries consistently reference "Reigouki" (the Rei Ayanami article for example) so I figured I'd ask first. 72.192.237.134 00:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC) Ismail
Mike;
it really is inconceivably tall. the sheer weight of something that large would topple buildings and everything around it. Here's a good way to find it's size: Get a picture of the head next to the pilot. This would show the head being abouth four meters or 12 feet. This is about the same size of a larger gundam unit.
Is there an explanation for why the MP Evas are able to reactivate after being killed? (since it is said that their S2 organs do not regenerate)-- Dch111 23:00, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Not really, but I think that they're more versitile and can live without certain parts of their bodies. However, you should notice that none of them had their core broken, so they didn't really die and at the end when they impale themselves with the lances of longinus they don't reactivate. -- L337M4G3 7:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Just a thought. It is the only true mecha of the series.
While I can't argue with the logic, I think it's a little excessive to note it in the article, as I don't think their Unit #s are ever discussed in canon. Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 17:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Should this page be named "Mecha?" Evangelion Units aren't really mecha. They are mostly organic, closer really to cyborgs than robots. If a sutable term cannoth be agreedd on I suppose it's ok, but the title is sort of misleading. ( Animedude 08:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC))
While Evangelions are mostly-organic cyborgs and not "machines", the series was directly meant to be a sort of satire/breaking conventions of the "Giant Mecha" genre. The same debate might be raised for "can we say Farscape is "a Space Opera set on a spaceship, if spaceships are machines and Moya is organic?" Evangelions should be categorized under wikipedia's "mecha" category because 1-it's not like there's another large category to put it in; we aren't arguing Giant Mecha vs. Real Mecha; instead, the "category" Eva would fit in would be so specific that no one could easily find it. 2-it's clearly meant to be playing on the conventions of the "Giant Mecha" genre, and thus falls in that category. -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici ( talk) 18:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
In the article the Evas are call cybernetic but (to my knowledge) that word has never been used. Ritsuko used the term “synthetic being” and the manga used biomechanical, so wouldn’t these be better terms? The Twilight Goddess 00:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
'Somewhat decent' is a pretty ambiguous way of describing an armour's effectiveness. I feel justified in describing the limits of its effectiveness. I am, of course, open to constructive criticism. Also, regardless of their classification as mechas, i think it's also important to note the fact that this classification is, indeed, debated.
Minor compared to other eva 'issues' you say, willbyr? So are you fine with classifying whales as fish? Or maybe we should just call them 'obese dolphins'. May i suggest you ask for feedback from other users before making changes based purely on personal bias? 203.54.235.69 06:45, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Can someone that can read kanji go here and verify that the two new Eva units featured in this game are named "The First Type" and "The Second Type", as is suggested in the game's article? The other link in the article is to a gaming blog that doesn't seem to give any really useful information. Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 20:33, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Why was the image of Unit 01 deleted? I thought I had the fair use covered on all the images, especially the screenshots from the series... Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 22:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Assuming you all have desires to see this article advance, I'd recommend significant copy editing, particularly in light of WP:LEAD. jddphd ( talk · contribs) 03:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
For the discussion about culling excessive non-free images from the Evangelion articles, see here. Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 12:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure how to word it and I'm uncertain whether it's worth pointing out, but Unit 00 is the only Eva that never opens its mouth. I thought that was a bit odd. Hellbus ( talk) 23:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
i think a better name should be suited for this article. i suggest we name it "List of Mechas in Neon Genesis Evangelion. Sound good to all of you? Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
If we summarize the glossary by moving items to a more better suited area then we mightmove all articles to GA. which is WP:EVA's goal is it not? Anyways, are you in favor of the name change? Bread Ninja ( talk) 19:25, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
For now this article will be solely dedicated to EVAS. other objects that are not EVAS do not come in unless related to EVAS. the original plan was to organize the article and remove unnecessary details. Considering the evangelions or quasi-Angels are more known as "EVAS" i think we should name is list of EVAS of NGE. Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Because the name is confusing. Also we could put this as a List article, so list of EVAs in NGE is a better title. Evangelion (mecha) would be confusing and the word Evangelion is also one of the names of the series and albums. the Evangelions are also so most commonly known as "EVAs" in both the anime and to the public. Evangelion (mecha) would be confusing
If we can, we can add the weapons EVAs use onto here if possible. Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:17, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
true, but like i said, it's more appropriate to go by "list of NGE [insert here]" or "List of [insert here] in neon genesis evangelion". it's the same reason why Angel (Neon Genesis Evangelion) was moved to List of Angels in Neon Genesis Evangelion. merely saying (mecha) in the end wont help.
also, the title insist in being singular rather than plural. Which might make some or all readers believe that the article is about only one evangelion, or that only one exist in the entire NGE series. that's why "list of NGE evangelion" or "list of NGE Evangelions" would be most appropriate, considering that the name is much more clearer and easier to understand. Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
What I like about the current article and title is that it clearly conveys that it's a specific important NGE concept; 'list' just sounds like a grab-bag of random material, with no focus, theme, or unifying idea. And bringing in Jet Alone and Trident lumps them in with things they shouldn't be lumped in with. Any Eva is more important than those 2 put together (they have zero relevance to the overall plot). -- Gwern (contribs) 14:25 12 January 2010 (GMT)
i had thought the same about the main article, but everyone disagreed (not including that IP). it's not as clear as you think. like i said before the name is singular, not plural, which would confuse some people seeing as how there are many articles named "Evangelion". 'List' is more than just listing, you would mention concept designs, terminology or other. the thing is, this article is already in a form of list. Also EVAs are important, but that would be opinion. they are just giant beings people ride on. adding all mechas here wouldn't hurt. we could divide them into sections, evangelions in one, and trident and jet alone in "other", and why shouldn't they be lumped together? they are all mechas. It's just like List of Hollows in Bleach, even though the list talks about hollows in general, there is more mention of Arrancars because they have had great importance in the plot, while other hollows that have obtained notability to be mentioned are merely in "other". Same could work here. Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:24, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
After removing some trivial and original research info on the Details section (which i might change the section title for something more broad), i see now that the kanji isn't a separate name form the English name. therefore i will but nihongo templates onto the names. I also removed heavy original research and some trivial information that will not help the sections. there is still some original research but left it in because i thought it could be verified. Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Also evangelions are most commonly known as EVA not evangelions. So I'll change all of it to EVA. And i do need a little help finding Evangelion kanji. Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:22, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm not so sure, but EVAs seem to be more known for in google and i'm not so sure how to use CSE hits. Anyways, in-universe they are most commonly known as EVAs aswell. i hardly heard the term "evangelion" within the series Bread Ninja ( talk) 03:31, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
[07:54 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R EVA literal-translationp/*|grep -v 'EVANGELION'|wc 41 371 3340 [07:55 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R Eva literal-translationp/*|grep -v 'Evangelion'|wc 285 2506 22358 [07:55 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R EVA adv-platinum/*|grep -v 'EVANGELION'|wc 0 0 0 [07:56 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R Eva adv-platinum/*|grep -v 'Evangelion'|wc 291 2434 22674 [07:57 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R EVAs adv-platinum/*|grep -v 'EVANGELION'|wc 0 0 0 [07:57 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R Evas adv-platinum/*|grep -v 'Evangelion'|wc 51 413 4053 [08:25 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R EVAs literal-translationp/*|grep -v 'EVANGELION'|wc 3 36 275 [08:25 PM] 0Mb$ fgrep -R Evas literal-translationp/*|grep -v 'Evangelion'|wc 19 174 1475
i'm not trying to assume anything other than what is shown in front of me. But anyways, it doesn't matter if they are all caps or not. i thought in the subs, they were shown with all caps. Plus i thought EVA was written in there capsules aswell. Bread Ninja ( talk) 01:01, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
acronyms usually have periods under them. i'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing, please assume good faith. I don't think it matters whether its easier to write and Easier to read is matter of opinion. You seem to ignore the sub and capsule statement. but again, it doesn't really matter. so your last post was just unecessary Bread Ninja ( talk) 21:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
what i mean by "it doesn't matter", i'm basically saying it's alright to change it to Eva. but we can't ignore that there are results with them being referred to EVA so it should still be mentioned in there. Bread Ninja ( talk) 22:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
There are some fan speculation about the sudden appearance of this Eva. More specifically, it has been noted that Unit 08's head armor is somewhat similar to Unit 01's godlike form at the Rebuild of Evangelion 2.0 finale. There are rumors that it might actually be Unit 01 in a different armor to restrain it, like what the tons of bandages were used for in episode 20. Can anyone confirm or refute that? If it turns out to be untrue then it will most likely be piloted by either Mari or Rei since they both lost their respective Evas (Unit 05 is gone completely while Unit 00 only has a pair of legs left - WAY beyond the Hayflick limit). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.147.118.135 ( talk) 09:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Added all the Evas that appear in 3.0 and gave them their own section; as the film just came out, there aren't many (if any) options for citing sources yet. Still, make sure any information you might add is actually in the film because there's lots of misleading speculation among non-Japanese sources; that will most likely remain so until the official English release which is not announced yet.-- Amitakartok ( talk) 17:46, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
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I'll be reviewing the article. It's kinda so it'll take some time. So far it looks good based on what I read but I suggest cutting some parts related with WP:Plot considering it details information I never heard about in the actual series or movies.
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@ TeenAngels1234: That's all for today. I'm not entirely confident but maybe the content of Original series could also be trimmed since it explores most episodes in the series. Tintor2 ( talk) 22:30, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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