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Something should be mentioned about Evan's skates at Nationals. His free skate was the highest score ever awarded by a domestic US judging panel.
This article is close, and I don't doubt it can be a Good Article, with a little work. Here are my suggestions:
Please strike out my suggestions as you make the changes. Leave a note here if you have any questions. The nomination will be on hold for between two and seven days, depending on whether progress is being made.-- Djrobgordon 08:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
{{
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. You should have the exact date of the broadcast, which doesn't seem like a problem, since you can find out the date of the competition. I did find an article with some quotes about the competition
[1], but he doesn't specifically make this point.If you have any other questions, let me know.-- Djrobgordon 00:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to experiment with putting a couple of sub-headers in the career section, just to break up the block of text a little. Let me know if they don't work for you. I'm not up on my skating lingo, so I'll probably word them wrong, but I think splitting the block makes the page look better-- Djrobgordon 19:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to format the references with citation templates, so that readers can easily see what the source is without following a link.-- Djrobgordon 22:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Looks like you've done everything I've asked, so I'm happy to promote this to Good Article status. As soon as I finish converting the refs (which I'm going to do right now) I'll go through the steps of making it official. Congratulations, and thanks for helping make Wikipedia a better encyclopedia.-- Djrobgordon 04:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
From reading through the article, I noted several concerns that warrant delisting. 1. The lead is too short. See Wikipedia:Lead section. 2. There are several instances of Wikipedia:NPOV#let facts speak for themselves and Wikipedia:Words to avoid. 3. The personal life section has too many small paragraphs and the last sentence in the coaching changes section could use some rewriting. Some of the overall writing quality can be improved, such as typical journalist style of switching from subject's name to he/her and back instead of he, he, he. 4. There are a few instances where facts of questionable value are introduced. Placement in relationship to Johnny Weir is too frequent. Lysacek appearing on a tv show to comment on his performance after the Olympics doesn't seem noteworthy (unless perhaps some detail is to the mater is given). I'll give other editors some time to address these concerns before delisting. User:calbear22 ( talk) 01:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
WP:SOFIXIT. 141.151.176.204 ( talk) 07:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
There are numerous errors in this article that I have corrected but which someone who apparently has "their" version of this article copied in a file keeps simply reverting by pasting "their" entire article back in. Some of the errors include:
As for your first point: single skaters age out at 19. Learn to read the rules.
Olympic Ice is notable.
Commentating is a word.
Graf boots are his equiptment and are therefore useful in an article about his skating career.
All you did was add way too much info about Weir, including a factual error that ties are somehow unprecedented, which they aren't, since it happened at 2007 Worlds, which was before 2008 Nationals, which makes the tie, by definition precented. Keep your Weir-bias for the Weir article. 70.17.181.241 ( talk) 11:55, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Evan Lysacek went to Neuqua Valley High School in Naperville, IL and went to middle school at Gregory Middle School. His history teacher over there was the one and only Tim Higgins! Go Mr.Higgins!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.142.45.244 ( talk) 03:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, this is a warning that the personal life information in this article is messy. Any biography that is of GA standard must have at least one well organised paragraph describing the persons life outside of their field for which they are famous or otherwise incorporate that information elsewhere in the text. This information provided in this article is messy, appearing in a sequence of stubby unconnected sentences rather than properly organised paragraphs. As a result, it does not give enough context for the incidents and information that is mentioned. For an example of how such a section might look, see Brian Urlacher and for pointers on how to expand and improve the section, see this guide. If this information is not improved then this article would be unlikely to survive a Good Article Reassessment and may well be delisted in the future. Thanks -- Jackyd101 ( talk) 10:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello, just wanted to let you know that Evan LYSACEK is of the CZECH descent from the father's site, because his grandfather came to the U.S. from the former Czechoslovak Republic, from its third largest city of Ostrava. This should be primarily pointed out and NOT some speculations of Italian/Greek origin, where apparently his mother came from. The last name LYSACEK is 100% of the Czech origin ! (John Nemecek, New York) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.112.170.69 ( talk) 06:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Is there any source for a statement that his name pronounced [ɛvʌn lyːsaːʧek]? -- deerstop. 16:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Evan LYSACEK is of the CZECH descent from the father's site, because his grandfather came to the U.S. from the former Czechoslovak Republic, from its third largest city of Ostrava. This should be primarily pointed out and NOT some speculations of Italian/Greek origin, where apparently his mother came from. The last name LYSACEK is 100% of the Czech origin ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.112.170.69 ( talk) 06:34, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I have never tried to modify anything on Wikipedia and I notice that Lysacek's bio doesn't offer an "edit this page" tag. But--- his cross is a Russian Orthodox- three-bar cross, not a Greek cross. If you click on the 'Greek Orthodox cross' in the bio, you will see that that cross has a type of swelling at the end of all the bars of the cross. I suspect he is therefore Russian Orthodox, not Greek Orthodox, but don't know for a fact. To remove any confusion, it could be simply changed to 'Eastern Orthodox.' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.75.219 ( talk) 05:00, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
One of the Czech biggest newspapers MF DNES write about Lysacek [7]:
Translated:
I guess, this can be used.
Lysacek is quite surely a Czech surname where it is relatively common, ranked 5962nd with 140 male holders in Czechia. [8] It is originally written Lysáček and pronounced /ˈlisä:tʃɛk/ (there is no difference in pronunciation between Y and I in the Czech language). The word is derived from "lysý" - bald, glabrous, and features a Slavic ending -ček which means diminutive (without it, the name would be Lysák). So the name means "small bald man". Female variant of this name is "Lysáčková". Anyway, only the way how he pronounce his own name is relevant for this article. Miraceti ( talk) 11:44, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
His father is actually moravian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.68.189 ( talk) 14:50, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Evan, my name is Eugene Brown (Gene), I live in Hartselle, AL, 48 years old white single male, I just want you to know that I've watched you skating & you're great! I wondering if I can have some pics of you along your autograph on them??? If you don't for me to have them some you can email them to me which is : eugenebrown1@me.com. Again you're great skater & I would love to be your friend too.
Truly yours,
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Many uncited passages, not much information post-2015, and formatting concerns with lots of short paragraphs. Z1720 ( talk) 15:29, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
An editor deleted material here, musing "what the fuck" it has to do with anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Evan_Lysacek&diff=prev&oldid=1197248384
I think it is obvious. It is a comment by a Russian politician on the subject of the paragraph in question, supported by an RS.
I would suggest that, question answered, it is appropriate to restore it. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:90C5:84C7:E1DA:1A9 ( talk) 21:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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Something should be mentioned about Evan's skates at Nationals. His free skate was the highest score ever awarded by a domestic US judging panel.
This article is close, and I don't doubt it can be a Good Article, with a little work. Here are my suggestions:
Please strike out my suggestions as you make the changes. Leave a note here if you have any questions. The nomination will be on hold for between two and seven days, depending on whether progress is being made.-- Djrobgordon 08:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
{{
cite video}}
. You should have the exact date of the broadcast, which doesn't seem like a problem, since you can find out the date of the competition. I did find an article with some quotes about the competition
[1], but he doesn't specifically make this point.If you have any other questions, let me know.-- Djrobgordon 00:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to experiment with putting a couple of sub-headers in the career section, just to break up the block of text a little. Let me know if they don't work for you. I'm not up on my skating lingo, so I'll probably word them wrong, but I think splitting the block makes the page look better-- Djrobgordon 19:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to format the references with citation templates, so that readers can easily see what the source is without following a link.-- Djrobgordon 22:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Looks like you've done everything I've asked, so I'm happy to promote this to Good Article status. As soon as I finish converting the refs (which I'm going to do right now) I'll go through the steps of making it official. Congratulations, and thanks for helping make Wikipedia a better encyclopedia.-- Djrobgordon 04:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
From reading through the article, I noted several concerns that warrant delisting. 1. The lead is too short. See Wikipedia:Lead section. 2. There are several instances of Wikipedia:NPOV#let facts speak for themselves and Wikipedia:Words to avoid. 3. The personal life section has too many small paragraphs and the last sentence in the coaching changes section could use some rewriting. Some of the overall writing quality can be improved, such as typical journalist style of switching from subject's name to he/her and back instead of he, he, he. 4. There are a few instances where facts of questionable value are introduced. Placement in relationship to Johnny Weir is too frequent. Lysacek appearing on a tv show to comment on his performance after the Olympics doesn't seem noteworthy (unless perhaps some detail is to the mater is given). I'll give other editors some time to address these concerns before delisting. User:calbear22 ( talk) 01:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
WP:SOFIXIT. 141.151.176.204 ( talk) 07:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
There are numerous errors in this article that I have corrected but which someone who apparently has "their" version of this article copied in a file keeps simply reverting by pasting "their" entire article back in. Some of the errors include:
As for your first point: single skaters age out at 19. Learn to read the rules.
Olympic Ice is notable.
Commentating is a word.
Graf boots are his equiptment and are therefore useful in an article about his skating career.
All you did was add way too much info about Weir, including a factual error that ties are somehow unprecedented, which they aren't, since it happened at 2007 Worlds, which was before 2008 Nationals, which makes the tie, by definition precented. Keep your Weir-bias for the Weir article. 70.17.181.241 ( talk) 11:55, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Evan Lysacek went to Neuqua Valley High School in Naperville, IL and went to middle school at Gregory Middle School. His history teacher over there was the one and only Tim Higgins! Go Mr.Higgins!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.142.45.244 ( talk) 03:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, this is a warning that the personal life information in this article is messy. Any biography that is of GA standard must have at least one well organised paragraph describing the persons life outside of their field for which they are famous or otherwise incorporate that information elsewhere in the text. This information provided in this article is messy, appearing in a sequence of stubby unconnected sentences rather than properly organised paragraphs. As a result, it does not give enough context for the incidents and information that is mentioned. For an example of how such a section might look, see Brian Urlacher and for pointers on how to expand and improve the section, see this guide. If this information is not improved then this article would be unlikely to survive a Good Article Reassessment and may well be delisted in the future. Thanks -- Jackyd101 ( talk) 10:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello, just wanted to let you know that Evan LYSACEK is of the CZECH descent from the father's site, because his grandfather came to the U.S. from the former Czechoslovak Republic, from its third largest city of Ostrava. This should be primarily pointed out and NOT some speculations of Italian/Greek origin, where apparently his mother came from. The last name LYSACEK is 100% of the Czech origin ! (John Nemecek, New York) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.112.170.69 ( talk) 06:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Is there any source for a statement that his name pronounced [ɛvʌn lyːsaːʧek]? -- deerstop. 16:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Evan LYSACEK is of the CZECH descent from the father's site, because his grandfather came to the U.S. from the former Czechoslovak Republic, from its third largest city of Ostrava. This should be primarily pointed out and NOT some speculations of Italian/Greek origin, where apparently his mother came from. The last name LYSACEK is 100% of the Czech origin ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.112.170.69 ( talk) 06:34, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I have never tried to modify anything on Wikipedia and I notice that Lysacek's bio doesn't offer an "edit this page" tag. But--- his cross is a Russian Orthodox- three-bar cross, not a Greek cross. If you click on the 'Greek Orthodox cross' in the bio, you will see that that cross has a type of swelling at the end of all the bars of the cross. I suspect he is therefore Russian Orthodox, not Greek Orthodox, but don't know for a fact. To remove any confusion, it could be simply changed to 'Eastern Orthodox.' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.75.219 ( talk) 05:00, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
One of the Czech biggest newspapers MF DNES write about Lysacek [7]:
Translated:
I guess, this can be used.
Lysacek is quite surely a Czech surname where it is relatively common, ranked 5962nd with 140 male holders in Czechia. [8] It is originally written Lysáček and pronounced /ˈlisä:tʃɛk/ (there is no difference in pronunciation between Y and I in the Czech language). The word is derived from "lysý" - bald, glabrous, and features a Slavic ending -ček which means diminutive (without it, the name would be Lysák). So the name means "small bald man". Female variant of this name is "Lysáčková". Anyway, only the way how he pronounce his own name is relevant for this article. Miraceti ( talk) 11:44, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
His father is actually moravian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.68.189 ( talk) 14:50, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Evan, my name is Eugene Brown (Gene), I live in Hartselle, AL, 48 years old white single male, I just want you to know that I've watched you skating & you're great! I wondering if I can have some pics of you along your autograph on them??? If you don't for me to have them some you can email them to me which is : eugenebrown1@me.com. Again you're great skater & I would love to be your friend too.
Truly yours,
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Many uncited passages, not much information post-2015, and formatting concerns with lots of short paragraphs. Z1720 ( talk) 15:29, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
An editor deleted material here, musing "what the fuck" it has to do with anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Evan_Lysacek&diff=prev&oldid=1197248384
I think it is obvious. It is a comment by a Russian politician on the subject of the paragraph in question, supported by an RS.
I would suggest that, question answered, it is appropriate to restore it. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:90C5:84C7:E1DA:1A9 ( talk) 21:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)