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WHY??? I am asking the question... 'Why does almost every 'image' [diagram] of the Eu tube show the top end, but NOT the bottom end??? including 'Gray's Anatomy' [the medical reference book, not the TV show]... WHY? I have had problems equalizing the air pressure in my ears when we came down from the mountains when I was a teen... and when I fly on airplanes, every time... I cant get 'into' my ear (at the top end), I use an anti-histamine to effect things at the lower end, where the Eu tube goes to the 'inferior nasal cavity'... I will FIND a pic and put it in the article... dNorm 03:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnorm ( talk • contribs)
The two main figures share only one common term (Eustachian Tube) and that appears to have been added. It raises questions that I can't answer like "Do the Malleus and Incus in the bottom figure define the parts of the Ossicles in the upper figure?" Any help in replacing these two figures with one or more better figures would be helpful. Thanks.
Have had problems with my Eustachian tube for 5 days. My doctor thinks thinks this is a bi product of a heavy cold which has hung around this February. He has prescribed a nasal spray to clear my lingerring chest infection.
Are there any miracle cures out there? Would welcome an email from anyone with help? grapow@btinternet.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.41.218.45 ( talk • contribs) 01:53, April 24, 2005
From the article: Some people are born with the ability to contract just these muscles voluntarily, similar to people who can wiggle their ears.
Can anyone verify whether this ability is naturally inborn or trained? I didn't know how to wiggle my ears until I was 10. :-) changed 15:17, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
What, are there pseudo-stachian tubes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.208.51 ( talk • contribs) 15:10, February 16, 2007
The paragraph starting with "Behind the nose and up above the tonsils" is verbatim from Chapter 6 of Dr. Gerald Poesnecker's "It's Only Natural." Could that count as fair use? BradAGrantham 19:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC) Then attribute it. This would be considered fair use, I believe. If not, change some words, rearrange sentence structure and make it not verbatim anymore.
The article said that when a person who has voluntary control over the muscles opens or closes the 'tubes, they are forced to breathe. As one of these people, I can certainly say that this is not the case. I've deleted the misinformation - if it turns out that I'm just a freak of nature, you can find it in the history. - Warriorness 22:08, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I have had issues with my ears for a number of years now. On a 'specialists' advice I had surgery on my septum to straighten it - supposedly to eleviate my ear stress. This changed nothing. The air just does not flow properly. All the medical tests say I am fine. I have hearing loss so bad at times I can't talk on the phone. Does anybody have any advice at all??? - Desperate! bluebery@telus.net — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heidiblueberry ( talk • contribs) 22:48, June 19, 2007
What part of the eustachian tube causes the popetyclickety sound? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.231.228.0 ( talk) 06:34, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
16/03/2010 - Edit: Added the french reference to Voluntary tube opening (BTV). Deleted the Frenzel Maneuver link, that maneuver has nothing to do with Voluntary tube opening, since it's a method that requires nose pinch, same as valsava, so it doesn't count as a voluntary opening of the tubes, it is a pressure-forced opening. - Alejandro Sastre —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.126.93.56 ( talk) 17:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
The Terminologia Anatomica, the offical medical dictionary does not recognize the name Eustachian tube ( as it is derived of the name of an anatomist ). In the same way, names of all similarly named structures were replaced by proper and recognized nomenclature. Therefore it is illogical to have Pharyngotympanic tube redirected to Eustachian tube instead of vice versa!! Change of page name recommended! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.53.243.70 ( talk) 23:15, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Some important zoology questions not mentioned here:
DMahalko ( talk) 10:30, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
It is present in all mammals in one form or another. This information is all over the internet from reputable sources. I would suggest to EVERYONE to use this area to talk about things that require serious research or has conflicting information available, not for stuff that takes a 30 second google search. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazybuk ( talk • contribs) 12:26, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
(Yeah yeah, Wikipedia is not for OR, which is why this is on the talk page.)
So anyway I seem to have discovered a better way to direct air into one ear or the other when experiencing an inner ear infection. The usual suggested way is to pinch the nose shut and pressurize the inner nasal cavity very gently, but this often results in air entering the "wrong" ear since the one with problems is already plugged up.
It appears that tugging/wiggling the earlobe on the side when I want the air to go helps to partially open the Eustachion tube on that the side of my head where I want the air to go and make the air only go to that ear.
I am not aware of this method being described anywhere else. DMahalko ( talk) 16:45, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
This is another (OR, alas) option for getting air into one specific inner ear region when one of the Eustachian tubes is plugged with an infection or just not cooperating.
While pinching the nose, apply slight pressure with the end of your thumb of your other hand over the ear canal of the ear where you DON'T want the air to go, and then gently pressurize the nasal cavity.
Covering the opposite side ear canal and pressing in with the thumb slightly pressurizes the outer ear canal and eardrum, making it more likely that air will enter the other inner ear cavity through the fluid-blocked tube.
DMahalko ( talk) 13:20, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Needless fragmentation to be separate; would improve quality of information and readability of displayed on the same page. Could be re-expanded at a later date if necessary. LT910001 ( talk) 23:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
As above. LT910001 ( talk) 23:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. No consensus the proposed title is the most common name. Jenks24 ( talk) 20:12, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Eustachian tube →
Auditory tube – TA preferred synonym. A move to a commonly used title that readers can actually understand and are familiar with ("auditory") and a move away from the current eponymous title.
Tom (LT) (
talk)
00:35, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Is there any information available about the average diameter of the Eustachian tube for adult men and women? I am aware it probably varies in diameter along the length of the tube. Is there a direct proportional relationship between the diameter of the skull and the size of the tube? I assume yes.
I don't know how to get more detail about this question, other than asking a hospital to do an elective MRI of my own head so I can examine the 3D scan data myself.
-- DMahalko ( talk) 17:15, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Apparently 3mm http://www.medicinenet.com/eustachian_tube_problems/article.htm HCA ( talk) 17:57, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Needless fragmentation, can easily be represented in a single article Tom (LT) ( talk) 00:14, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
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Since phenylephrine has been demonstrated to be no more effective than placebo as a decongestant, removal of the reference to phenylephrine in this section should be considered — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.102.82 ( talk) 21:15, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Should 'eustachian' be capitalized? I don't see it discussed here nor is the article consistent in that possible error. Jojalozzo ( talk) 21:52, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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WHY??? I am asking the question... 'Why does almost every 'image' [diagram] of the Eu tube show the top end, but NOT the bottom end??? including 'Gray's Anatomy' [the medical reference book, not the TV show]... WHY? I have had problems equalizing the air pressure in my ears when we came down from the mountains when I was a teen... and when I fly on airplanes, every time... I cant get 'into' my ear (at the top end), I use an anti-histamine to effect things at the lower end, where the Eu tube goes to the 'inferior nasal cavity'... I will FIND a pic and put it in the article... dNorm 03:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnorm ( talk • contribs)
The two main figures share only one common term (Eustachian Tube) and that appears to have been added. It raises questions that I can't answer like "Do the Malleus and Incus in the bottom figure define the parts of the Ossicles in the upper figure?" Any help in replacing these two figures with one or more better figures would be helpful. Thanks.
Have had problems with my Eustachian tube for 5 days. My doctor thinks thinks this is a bi product of a heavy cold which has hung around this February. He has prescribed a nasal spray to clear my lingerring chest infection.
Are there any miracle cures out there? Would welcome an email from anyone with help? grapow@btinternet.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.41.218.45 ( talk • contribs) 01:53, April 24, 2005
From the article: Some people are born with the ability to contract just these muscles voluntarily, similar to people who can wiggle their ears.
Can anyone verify whether this ability is naturally inborn or trained? I didn't know how to wiggle my ears until I was 10. :-) changed 15:17, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
What, are there pseudo-stachian tubes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.208.51 ( talk • contribs) 15:10, February 16, 2007
The paragraph starting with "Behind the nose and up above the tonsils" is verbatim from Chapter 6 of Dr. Gerald Poesnecker's "It's Only Natural." Could that count as fair use? BradAGrantham 19:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC) Then attribute it. This would be considered fair use, I believe. If not, change some words, rearrange sentence structure and make it not verbatim anymore.
The article said that when a person who has voluntary control over the muscles opens or closes the 'tubes, they are forced to breathe. As one of these people, I can certainly say that this is not the case. I've deleted the misinformation - if it turns out that I'm just a freak of nature, you can find it in the history. - Warriorness 22:08, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I have had issues with my ears for a number of years now. On a 'specialists' advice I had surgery on my septum to straighten it - supposedly to eleviate my ear stress. This changed nothing. The air just does not flow properly. All the medical tests say I am fine. I have hearing loss so bad at times I can't talk on the phone. Does anybody have any advice at all??? - Desperate! bluebery@telus.net — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heidiblueberry ( talk • contribs) 22:48, June 19, 2007
What part of the eustachian tube causes the popetyclickety sound? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.231.228.0 ( talk) 06:34, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
16/03/2010 - Edit: Added the french reference to Voluntary tube opening (BTV). Deleted the Frenzel Maneuver link, that maneuver has nothing to do with Voluntary tube opening, since it's a method that requires nose pinch, same as valsava, so it doesn't count as a voluntary opening of the tubes, it is a pressure-forced opening. - Alejandro Sastre —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.126.93.56 ( talk) 17:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
The Terminologia Anatomica, the offical medical dictionary does not recognize the name Eustachian tube ( as it is derived of the name of an anatomist ). In the same way, names of all similarly named structures were replaced by proper and recognized nomenclature. Therefore it is illogical to have Pharyngotympanic tube redirected to Eustachian tube instead of vice versa!! Change of page name recommended! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.53.243.70 ( talk) 23:15, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Some important zoology questions not mentioned here:
DMahalko ( talk) 10:30, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
It is present in all mammals in one form or another. This information is all over the internet from reputable sources. I would suggest to EVERYONE to use this area to talk about things that require serious research or has conflicting information available, not for stuff that takes a 30 second google search. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazybuk ( talk • contribs) 12:26, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
(Yeah yeah, Wikipedia is not for OR, which is why this is on the talk page.)
So anyway I seem to have discovered a better way to direct air into one ear or the other when experiencing an inner ear infection. The usual suggested way is to pinch the nose shut and pressurize the inner nasal cavity very gently, but this often results in air entering the "wrong" ear since the one with problems is already plugged up.
It appears that tugging/wiggling the earlobe on the side when I want the air to go helps to partially open the Eustachion tube on that the side of my head where I want the air to go and make the air only go to that ear.
I am not aware of this method being described anywhere else. DMahalko ( talk) 16:45, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
This is another (OR, alas) option for getting air into one specific inner ear region when one of the Eustachian tubes is plugged with an infection or just not cooperating.
While pinching the nose, apply slight pressure with the end of your thumb of your other hand over the ear canal of the ear where you DON'T want the air to go, and then gently pressurize the nasal cavity.
Covering the opposite side ear canal and pressing in with the thumb slightly pressurizes the outer ear canal and eardrum, making it more likely that air will enter the other inner ear cavity through the fluid-blocked tube.
DMahalko ( talk) 13:20, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Needless fragmentation to be separate; would improve quality of information and readability of displayed on the same page. Could be re-expanded at a later date if necessary. LT910001 ( talk) 23:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
As above. LT910001 ( talk) 23:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. No consensus the proposed title is the most common name. Jenks24 ( talk) 20:12, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Eustachian tube →
Auditory tube – TA preferred synonym. A move to a commonly used title that readers can actually understand and are familiar with ("auditory") and a move away from the current eponymous title.
Tom (LT) (
talk)
00:35, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Is there any information available about the average diameter of the Eustachian tube for adult men and women? I am aware it probably varies in diameter along the length of the tube. Is there a direct proportional relationship between the diameter of the skull and the size of the tube? I assume yes.
I don't know how to get more detail about this question, other than asking a hospital to do an elective MRI of my own head so I can examine the 3D scan data myself.
-- DMahalko ( talk) 17:15, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Apparently 3mm http://www.medicinenet.com/eustachian_tube_problems/article.htm HCA ( talk) 17:57, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Needless fragmentation, can easily be represented in a single article Tom (LT) ( talk) 00:14, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
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Should 'eustachian' be capitalized? I don't see it discussed here nor is the article consistent in that possible error. Jojalozzo ( talk) 21:52, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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