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"This will also be the first time since 1998 that a country in Western Europe hosts Eurovision as the contest has been in the Middle East, Scandinavia and Eastern Europe since 1999." Well that is pure bullshit. If you're gonna exclude every other Western European country, like Denmark and Sweden, you can just as well type "this is the first time a Western European country that borders France to the west, hosts the Eurovision since 1999." It's stupid. Scandinavia is part of Western Europe, so you cannot write "first time since 1998 a Eurovision has been in Western Europe". - Jetro ( talk) 00:32, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Quatar is planning to enter the Eurovision Song Contest in 2011. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_Radio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.126.67.2 ( talk) 14:23, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes that is true, but they try to become a member of the EBU! They've already send a group to Moskau to represent themselves. Furthermore they also have a radio show which is called Qatar for Eurovision! They just wait to become a member! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.126.67.2 ( talk) 08:04, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Austria is thinking about of being part of the Song Contest 2011 as well. http://www.krone.at/Show-Stars/Lena-Mania_ohne_Ende-Raab_Lena_soll_Song-Contest-Titel_2011_verteidigen-Story-202468 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.126.67.2 ( talk) 14:41, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
So what happens with Turkey?Will they be automatically qualified in next year's final? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.64.173.237 ( talk) 04:31, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Another question about Turkey. Where has it been stated that Turkey would withdraw from the contest? Some IP user just added that kind of information to the article [2]. Sounds very weird that a country that has been one of the most successful in the Eurovision Song Contest last few years and has just finished second in this year's event (which is a very good achievement) would almost immediately, just few hours after, announce their withdrawal from the next year's contest. ,,n ( talk) 05:17, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
There are NO current web sources saying that Turkey will withdrawal from the competition. In light of this and coupled with the fact the post made no grammatical sense as it was obviously posted by a non English speaker I have removed that fact from the page as it is at this time, misleading. If the poster wants to repost adding a reliable web source to back up the statement, then that's fine but not until.
it doesnt seem right. based on what i read on wikipedia the 2 place qualifies for next years final if a big 4 country win. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.72.121 ( talk) 09:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Why is the Netherlands removed as confirmed contestant? Broadcaster TROS confirmed they want to take part to the contest in 2011 TROS is only thinking about the way the national finals will take place. http://esfmagazine.wordpress.com/2010/05/23/tros-procedure-2011-staat-nog-niet-vast/ (in dutch) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jane doe10 ( talk • contribs) 14:18, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Surely it won't take part to ESC once more. However, if you need a reliable source, here are the words of Mr Svante Stockselius in te press conference of the 26th of May: Every year I think we get a little closer but we're not quite there yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.31.43.211 ( talk) 11:21, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Andorra did not even take part last year , no need for the undecided/withdrawn thing...
I deleted it but got a warning...
Lurji (
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11:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
There was none , and they were already out. Same with HJunfary
Lurji (
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13:06, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Why is hungary in the undecided box when it should be in a new possible returns section...? -- Lurji ( talk) 13:26, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
"Due to Germany's automatic qualification, the next highest country who confirms participation will automatically qualify through to the final." This should be deleted from the article. No official information has been posted regarding the number of automatically qualified finalists in next year's final. The rules of the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest do not take into consideration that the host country could be one of the big 4. Accordingly, it is not known whether there will be 4 or 5 automatically qualified finalists next year.-- 141.35.189.15 ( talk) 15:15, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
PLEASE Semi Protect this article because of all the vandalism which I am tired of reverting MSalmon ( talk) 15:56, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you :) -- Lurji ( talk) 21:47, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
So I did, someone put Sicily, Jersey an Brittany as posible debuts... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jane doe10 ( talk • contribs) 13:41, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Sicily ? I have heard nothing about the partecipation at the ESC of the Sicily separately from the Italy. I am a Sicilian fan of the ESC and I am quite sure of it... -- 62.98.222.52 ( talk) 15:40, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
How do I change the map to show the countries that have been confirmed because the current one is wrong. MSalmon ( talk) 10:06, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Eftim Gashtov, CEO of MRTV, the Macedonian state broadcaster has confirmed that the country will take part in next year's Eurovision Song Contest. [3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.35.189.15 ( talk) 08:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Has Austria really confirmed participation in the 2011 edition this early? The source is exactly the same as when they where in the possible returns section.-- Teodor Hansi ( talk) 14:00, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
the viewers of bbc wants the channel to withdraw. therefore it should be listed under possible withdrawals. http://www.nrk.no/programmer/tv/melodi_grand_prix/1.7146879 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.72.121 ( talk) 14:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Is Qatar taking part or not? I only have one source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miskolc10 ( talk • contribs) 09:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
norway always participates unless they choose to boycott esc. participation is rather important in norway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.72.121 ( talk • contribs) 19:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
The information that Lena Meyer-Landrut will represent Germany in ESC 2011 should not come under the "Participating countries" sub section "Confirmed" but in the "Returning artists". Source is here KamalSagraha ( talk) 03:30, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Who removes Switzerland all the time? SteliosGR( talk) 17:07, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
The official Norwegian facebook page (made by NRK, the Norwegian broadcaster) for Eurovision/Melodi Grand Prix, confirmed Norway's participation in 2011. http://www.facebook.com/melodigrandprix?ref=ts In the status posted the 4th of June, it is written in Norwegian that they will start working on the Norwegian national final (Melodi Grand Prix) soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lllkmoup ( talk • contribs) 00:18, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}} The United Kingdom will take part from http://www.bbc.co.uk/eurovision/ in a grey box at the top right of the page
80.192.50.245 ( talk) 23:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry my bad. Didnt mean to offend you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.50.245 ( talk) 13:08, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
The FYR of Macedonia, the Netherlands and Switzerland have confirmed participation, and they're painted in the map.
The references for each one (to be finally listed) are:
* The FYR of Macedonia: http://www.vest.com.mk/?ItemID=A4FCBF104618114FAC3B38EEFA8CD070. The last paragraph: Mr. Eftin Gashtov (MRT's directive) denies the rumours of Macedonia withdrawing from next year's contest * The Netherlands: http://www.esctoday.com/news/read/13036. TROS has a deal until 2012. * Switzerland: http://www.oikotimes.com/v2/index.php?file=articles&id=8368. SF wants to recover NF.
Please, add these three countries to the list of confirmed countries. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.163.18.137 ( talk) 16:01, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Germany: Gera also wants to host Eurovision 2011 -- 78.48.40.93 ( talk) 18:30, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
The reference used for many countries from a list published by Oikotimes was updated recently. Here is: http://www.oikotimes.com/v2/index.php?file=articles&id=8431. Albania is included, so it could be added to the list of countries confirmed for 2011. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.50.100.119 ( talk) 20:13, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
These three are in the confirmed ones list, saying that a citation is needed, but I can't find any reference for their participation until now... We all know that this 3 and many others from 2010 will enter for sure, but if we have restric "laws" for some things... João P. M. Lima ( talk) 18:42, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
they are currently in a conflict, therefore either of them may withdraw.
Why is Liechtenstein removed from the possible débuts section? I have not found any source stating that they wont try to participate next year. -- Teodor Hansi ( talk) 12:00, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
The reference used for confirming Bulgarian participation only told about a possible offering from Kirkorov, but it doesn't mention the intentions of BNT about taking part next year. I recommend to remove it until more solid references (from BNT) would be available. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.163.35.123 ( talk) 18:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Should we start a 2011 Eurovision Song Contest entries template? Some countries have alreday announced its national final (f.e Denmark, Ukraine) or changes in their national final (f.e Sweden). I could create it. I just want your view. Redpower94 ( talk) 17:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
As with every new Eurovision page, there are anonymous IPs adding and removing at will without sourcing. I propose page protection against IPs and editors not autoconfirmed. Welshleprechaun 14:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
i read on a forum hosted by nrk that the german government is cutting the eurovision song contest budget. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.75.209 ( talk) 11:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Or else it can lead to Germany's withdrawal in Eurovision 2012, similar to Sweden after hosting Eurovision 1975 -- Ajitirj ( talk) 15:00, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
is there anybody that know anything more about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.75.209 ( talk) 11:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
i checked the german version of wikipedia. there ireland wasnt shown as participating on the map. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.75.209 ( talk) 11:32, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
ANDORRA: Andorra not coming back in 2011-- Redpower94 Could we add that anywhere? ( talk) 13:32, 6 Oktober 2010 (UTC)
the given source in German doesn't say that Hamburg has withdrawn - it says only that Hamburg might have no chance anymore due the money and the fact that the stage doesn't fit in the proposed venue only Citius Altius Fortius ( talk) 17:09, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
last i heard they didnt have a government. if that keeps up the country could break up before eurovision song contest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.232.205.77 ( talk • contribs)
that means that at least the german wikipedia users believe slovakia to participate. wether it can used i cant tell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.74.217 ( talk) 19:04, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
shouldnt it be listed under finalists. i mean if it is a part of a big 5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.103.135 ( talk) 07:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
i heard a rumor of it on a forum. if it is true russia will most likely qualify for the final. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.103.135 ( talk) 10:34, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
since they tend to translate their songs into english if they arent already. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.103.135 ( talk) 11:00, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
those are the only languages that norway use in eurovision song contest.(though there is some times words in other languages added into the song.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.103.135 ( talk) 11:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
I have taken note that the Eurovision 2011 logo has been uploaded to Commons on grounds that it is illegible to copyright, rather than here locally as non-free content. This marks a significant change from previous years, and I may ask for input shortly on Commons to determine for sure whether the logo(s) uploaded there are actually illegible for copyright. See Commons:Threshold of originality for more information. CT Cooper · talk 15:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
I've received some feedback at commons:Template talk:PD-textlogo/en#Opinions on Eurovision logos requested and it appears Eurovision logos are okay on Commons. This means from now on logos can simply be uploaded onto Commons, with the benefits of this including that only one upload is needed for all Wikipedia projects, and there are no longer any restrictions on usage from the WP:NFCC. I suggest that the logos be slowly uploaded onto Commons, with the local fair use simply de-linked, which will result in them being tagged by a bot and later deleted. CT Cooper · talk 22:39, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
http://www.esctoday.com/news/read/16324
San Marino has confirmed for participating in 2011. Does not San Marino in the semifinal list of participants are? (My English is not very good, i'm from Holland). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berthebest ( talk • contribs) 19:37, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
I think San Marino shouldn't be listed as confirmed till a true confirmation from SMRTV is given, till then it should be listed under "Possible returns". Their situation is exactly the same as Montenegro and Hungary, which are listed as so: they have applied, yet it's not clear whether they will participate. Please somebody remove them from the confirmed list, I've tried several times but it's always reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berthebest ( User talk:Guest) 22:03, 10 December 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.178.29.51 ( talk)
How come Liechtenstein is removed from the possible debuts section? From what I know no decision has been made about their participation yet. -- Katching ( talk) 06:11, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
On a couple of occasions now I've noticed articles are being referenced to their source, but subsequently changed to an esctoday article referencing the original source (example: San Marino confirms participation was written by escdaily.com, and referenced as such, and then changed to an esctoday.com article referencing escdaily.com.) What is the reasoning for this? It seems strange not to reference the original article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ukavsfan ( talk • contribs) 17:18, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Please refrain from adding Slovakia in the list until their non-withdrawal is secured by a reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.178.15.25 ( talk) 19:35, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
information on its 2011 participation is a bit vague. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 ( talk) 20:41, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
slovakia have withdrawn. i removed it from the list but it is back on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 ( talk • contribs)
In german wikipedia, i see a source like [6]. It seems there are 42 countries if withdraw! Please put this source if withdrawn. 81.215.239.22 ( talk) 19:34, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
There is an source which Slovakia withdrawn offically. [7] Thus withdrawn, from ESCToday. Can you put this source? If you say "no" we will wait the next source. It seems, ESCToday related to EBU! It may return to 2012 after this year's absence. Well, at least withdrawn, now that was deadline. 81.215.239.22 ( talk) 20:25, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
DAMN IT! Hey! At least may return in 2012. I'm tired of editing now! 81.215.239.22 ( talk) 20:31, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I have re-directed Slovakia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2011 as all the article discussed was the country's decision to (not) participate, which is redundant to this article. Unlike Georgia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009, there is not significant selection information worth keeping. CT Cooper · talk 20:57, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
since the big four because the big five the article should say the big five in locations where the big four is listed. i am tired of getting reverted so i wont edit it myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 ( talk) 20:58, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
“ | The four countries that are part of the "Big Four", along with the host of the contest, automatically qualify for a place in the final. For the 2011 Contest, Germany is both a "Big Four" country and the host, resulting in a vacant spot in the final. At a Reference Group meeting in Belgrade it was decided that the existing rules will remain in place, and that the number of participants in the final will simply be lowered from twenty-five to twenty-four. On 31 December 2010; the official participation list was published by the EBU, which states that with the return of Italy to the contest, this nation will become a member of the "Big Five" thus permitting them automatic qualification into the finals, alongside Germany (host), France, Spain, and the United Kingdom, and therefore restores the number of participants for the final to twenty-five nations. | ” |
-- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 10:53, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I've started another RfC on source reliability due to popular demand on this talk page. Please go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#Third RfC on source reliability to comment. CT Cooper · talk 22:46, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Given that some topics are coming up on this talk page repeatdly, like last year, I have created an FAQ to answer common questions. Please feel free to make improvements as consensus evolves, or to add further questions/answers as necessary. CT Cooper · talk 23:38, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
After looked at [8], it still seems Slovakia is still listed under Pot 6, we have still not had an official confirmation from the EBU about Slovakia's withdrawal, so could this be a mistake, or is Slovakia still in the contest? -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 18:53, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
As this information is unconfirmed by any official source from Belarus, the participant rumoured in Serbian press should not be added to the table. Evilperson 20 ( talk) 17:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello! I received a source, which says Slovakia decided to compete in EscToday [9]. This source may help to contribute the article! Now rise again to 43! 81.215.239.22 ( talk) 21:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone know why there are 10 countries in the first half of the first semi-final when there are only nine countries in the first half of the second semi-final? / Hollac16 ( talk) 12:50, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Maja told in Slovenese National Final that she will sing her song in English in Düsseldorf. The English song title is "No one". - 80.223.140.48 ( talk) 17:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC) the article on slovenia in the eurovision song contest 2011 say the same thing. perhaps the eurovision song contest 2011 article should be changed.
Here's the confirmation:
http://escdaily.com/articles/15144 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.83.217.240 ( talk) 12:34, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Hello! I see didn't source given in "Media reports regarding host city" section. Please add more source to help to improve. Template will be deleted after January 27. I'll announce when template is deleted! And refrain to revert template when already deleted! If you have a question, ask me. I'll reply your message! 81.215.239.22 ( talk) 19:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
OK, I have no idea if Slovakia is in the Eurovision or not. It's like.....weird. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roreo123eurovision ( talk • contribs)
Why was my edit to "Hamburg/Hanover Exhibition Centre" reverted? As I said in my comment, a fairground is where you go to play on rollercoasters and eat candyfloss with your kids. It's a common mistranslation of "Messe" by Germans who think they can speak English, but it's purely and simply wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.104.196 ( talk) 13:00, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
First it says that there will be 24.000 places. But in the next paragraph there are 32.000 tickets already sold. What's correct? The arena can cover 54.000 places for football or even over 66.000 for a concert but I think that won't help. -- MrEnglish ( talk) 07:20, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
it have been added earlier years(2009, 2010 at the very least.) so it should be added this year as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 ( talk • contribs)
I think that there should be a fourth color in the map showing countries that have confirmed participation. Because the green color that shows countries that have chosen artist, song and/or both, it becomes quite messy because some just chosen its artist. Therefore, there should be a fourth color. Then it will be better when you can see:
/ Hollac16 ( talk) 16:49, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello! Someone's vandalizing the page. This is a list are not permitted to the page:
Look these. Also my computer automaticly closes when too hanging out in Internet. 78.166.237.96 ( talk) 22:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Well I have removed the following languages from the selected songs:
I also have one question. Are we going to keep the source for the languages. Or can we just removed once a song is selected just like we use to do before 2010? I don't they are necessary once the song is selected. Other than that the artist name, songtitle, and even placement could be sourced. And like I said, we don't really need them
Thanks. Tony0106 ( talk) 22:02, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
I see there are a lot of "arguing" of what the meaning of the words "haba haba" are, and the reason for that is because a couple of (fairly big) newspapers in Norway have translated the *whole proverb* "haba [na] haba hujaza kibaba" (which is sung in the refrain of the song) into what it could mean figuratively. (F.ex.: http://www.tv2.no/gmn/stella-mwangi-man-blir-i-bedre-humoer-av-aa-vrikke-paa-hoftene-3411590.html, http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/01/29/kjendis/mgp/melodi_grand_prix/eurovision_song_contest/eurovision/15245203/)
One of the problems with this is that only the first words of the proverb is used in the title. In my opinion the figurative meaning should then not be applied, and neither does it match when you chop the sentence up into pieces. So using various Swahili-English translators (if those can be trusted more than the (smaller) newspapers that have a proper translation) the meaning of the single word "haba" is "little (quantity); little bit; few; slight; insignificant; scarce; in short supply; insufficient" or "scarce, rare, spare, few, scant; insignificant". Or in short, f.ex. what is actually sung at the end of the song itself "little [by] little [fills up the measure]". (
http://www.dagsavisen.no/kultur/article513987.ece,
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Swahili_proverbs#H,
http://www.kamusiproject.org/en/lookup/sw?Word=haba,
http://africanlanguages.com/swahili/) --
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"This will also be the first time since 1998 that a country in Western Europe hosts Eurovision as the contest has been in the Middle East, Scandinavia and Eastern Europe since 1999." Well that is pure bullshit. If you're gonna exclude every other Western European country, like Denmark and Sweden, you can just as well type "this is the first time a Western European country that borders France to the west, hosts the Eurovision since 1999." It's stupid. Scandinavia is part of Western Europe, so you cannot write "first time since 1998 a Eurovision has been in Western Europe". - Jetro ( talk) 00:32, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Quatar is planning to enter the Eurovision Song Contest in 2011. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_Radio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.126.67.2 ( talk) 14:23, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes that is true, but they try to become a member of the EBU! They've already send a group to Moskau to represent themselves. Furthermore they also have a radio show which is called Qatar for Eurovision! They just wait to become a member! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.126.67.2 ( talk) 08:04, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Austria is thinking about of being part of the Song Contest 2011 as well. http://www.krone.at/Show-Stars/Lena-Mania_ohne_Ende-Raab_Lena_soll_Song-Contest-Titel_2011_verteidigen-Story-202468 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.126.67.2 ( talk) 14:41, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
So what happens with Turkey?Will they be automatically qualified in next year's final? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.64.173.237 ( talk) 04:31, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Another question about Turkey. Where has it been stated that Turkey would withdraw from the contest? Some IP user just added that kind of information to the article [2]. Sounds very weird that a country that has been one of the most successful in the Eurovision Song Contest last few years and has just finished second in this year's event (which is a very good achievement) would almost immediately, just few hours after, announce their withdrawal from the next year's contest. ,,n ( talk) 05:17, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
There are NO current web sources saying that Turkey will withdrawal from the competition. In light of this and coupled with the fact the post made no grammatical sense as it was obviously posted by a non English speaker I have removed that fact from the page as it is at this time, misleading. If the poster wants to repost adding a reliable web source to back up the statement, then that's fine but not until.
it doesnt seem right. based on what i read on wikipedia the 2 place qualifies for next years final if a big 4 country win. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.72.121 ( talk) 09:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Why is the Netherlands removed as confirmed contestant? Broadcaster TROS confirmed they want to take part to the contest in 2011 TROS is only thinking about the way the national finals will take place. http://esfmagazine.wordpress.com/2010/05/23/tros-procedure-2011-staat-nog-niet-vast/ (in dutch) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jane doe10 ( talk • contribs) 14:18, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Surely it won't take part to ESC once more. However, if you need a reliable source, here are the words of Mr Svante Stockselius in te press conference of the 26th of May: Every year I think we get a little closer but we're not quite there yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.31.43.211 ( talk) 11:21, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Andorra did not even take part last year , no need for the undecided/withdrawn thing...
I deleted it but got a warning...
Lurji (
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11:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
There was none , and they were already out. Same with HJunfary
Lurji (
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13:06, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Why is hungary in the undecided box when it should be in a new possible returns section...? -- Lurji ( talk) 13:26, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
"Due to Germany's automatic qualification, the next highest country who confirms participation will automatically qualify through to the final." This should be deleted from the article. No official information has been posted regarding the number of automatically qualified finalists in next year's final. The rules of the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest do not take into consideration that the host country could be one of the big 4. Accordingly, it is not known whether there will be 4 or 5 automatically qualified finalists next year.-- 141.35.189.15 ( talk) 15:15, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
PLEASE Semi Protect this article because of all the vandalism which I am tired of reverting MSalmon ( talk) 15:56, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you :) -- Lurji ( talk) 21:47, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
So I did, someone put Sicily, Jersey an Brittany as posible debuts... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jane doe10 ( talk • contribs) 13:41, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Sicily ? I have heard nothing about the partecipation at the ESC of the Sicily separately from the Italy. I am a Sicilian fan of the ESC and I am quite sure of it... -- 62.98.222.52 ( talk) 15:40, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
How do I change the map to show the countries that have been confirmed because the current one is wrong. MSalmon ( talk) 10:06, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Eftim Gashtov, CEO of MRTV, the Macedonian state broadcaster has confirmed that the country will take part in next year's Eurovision Song Contest. [3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.35.189.15 ( talk) 08:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Has Austria really confirmed participation in the 2011 edition this early? The source is exactly the same as when they where in the possible returns section.-- Teodor Hansi ( talk) 14:00, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
the viewers of bbc wants the channel to withdraw. therefore it should be listed under possible withdrawals. http://www.nrk.no/programmer/tv/melodi_grand_prix/1.7146879 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.72.121 ( talk) 14:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Is Qatar taking part or not? I only have one source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miskolc10 ( talk • contribs) 09:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
norway always participates unless they choose to boycott esc. participation is rather important in norway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.72.121 ( talk • contribs) 19:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
The information that Lena Meyer-Landrut will represent Germany in ESC 2011 should not come under the "Participating countries" sub section "Confirmed" but in the "Returning artists". Source is here KamalSagraha ( talk) 03:30, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Who removes Switzerland all the time? SteliosGR( talk) 17:07, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
The official Norwegian facebook page (made by NRK, the Norwegian broadcaster) for Eurovision/Melodi Grand Prix, confirmed Norway's participation in 2011. http://www.facebook.com/melodigrandprix?ref=ts In the status posted the 4th of June, it is written in Norwegian that they will start working on the Norwegian national final (Melodi Grand Prix) soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lllkmoup ( talk • contribs) 00:18, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}} The United Kingdom will take part from http://www.bbc.co.uk/eurovision/ in a grey box at the top right of the page
80.192.50.245 ( talk) 23:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry my bad. Didnt mean to offend you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.50.245 ( talk) 13:08, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
The FYR of Macedonia, the Netherlands and Switzerland have confirmed participation, and they're painted in the map.
The references for each one (to be finally listed) are:
* The FYR of Macedonia: http://www.vest.com.mk/?ItemID=A4FCBF104618114FAC3B38EEFA8CD070. The last paragraph: Mr. Eftin Gashtov (MRT's directive) denies the rumours of Macedonia withdrawing from next year's contest * The Netherlands: http://www.esctoday.com/news/read/13036. TROS has a deal until 2012. * Switzerland: http://www.oikotimes.com/v2/index.php?file=articles&id=8368. SF wants to recover NF.
Please, add these three countries to the list of confirmed countries. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.163.18.137 ( talk) 16:01, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Germany: Gera also wants to host Eurovision 2011 -- 78.48.40.93 ( talk) 18:30, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
The reference used for many countries from a list published by Oikotimes was updated recently. Here is: http://www.oikotimes.com/v2/index.php?file=articles&id=8431. Albania is included, so it could be added to the list of countries confirmed for 2011. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.50.100.119 ( talk) 20:13, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
These three are in the confirmed ones list, saying that a citation is needed, but I can't find any reference for their participation until now... We all know that this 3 and many others from 2010 will enter for sure, but if we have restric "laws" for some things... João P. M. Lima ( talk) 18:42, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
they are currently in a conflict, therefore either of them may withdraw.
Why is Liechtenstein removed from the possible débuts section? I have not found any source stating that they wont try to participate next year. -- Teodor Hansi ( talk) 12:00, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
The reference used for confirming Bulgarian participation only told about a possible offering from Kirkorov, but it doesn't mention the intentions of BNT about taking part next year. I recommend to remove it until more solid references (from BNT) would be available. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.163.35.123 ( talk) 18:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Should we start a 2011 Eurovision Song Contest entries template? Some countries have alreday announced its national final (f.e Denmark, Ukraine) or changes in their national final (f.e Sweden). I could create it. I just want your view. Redpower94 ( talk) 17:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
As with every new Eurovision page, there are anonymous IPs adding and removing at will without sourcing. I propose page protection against IPs and editors not autoconfirmed. Welshleprechaun 14:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
i read on a forum hosted by nrk that the german government is cutting the eurovision song contest budget. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.75.209 ( talk) 11:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Or else it can lead to Germany's withdrawal in Eurovision 2012, similar to Sweden after hosting Eurovision 1975 -- Ajitirj ( talk) 15:00, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
is there anybody that know anything more about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.75.209 ( talk) 11:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
i checked the german version of wikipedia. there ireland wasnt shown as participating on the map. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.75.209 ( talk) 11:32, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
ANDORRA: Andorra not coming back in 2011-- Redpower94 Could we add that anywhere? ( talk) 13:32, 6 Oktober 2010 (UTC)
the given source in German doesn't say that Hamburg has withdrawn - it says only that Hamburg might have no chance anymore due the money and the fact that the stage doesn't fit in the proposed venue only Citius Altius Fortius ( talk) 17:09, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
last i heard they didnt have a government. if that keeps up the country could break up before eurovision song contest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.232.205.77 ( talk • contribs)
that means that at least the german wikipedia users believe slovakia to participate. wether it can used i cant tell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.74.217 ( talk) 19:04, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
shouldnt it be listed under finalists. i mean if it is a part of a big 5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.103.135 ( talk) 07:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
i heard a rumor of it on a forum. if it is true russia will most likely qualify for the final. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.103.135 ( talk) 10:34, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
since they tend to translate their songs into english if they arent already. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.103.135 ( talk) 11:00, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
those are the only languages that norway use in eurovision song contest.(though there is some times words in other languages added into the song.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.103.135 ( talk) 11:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
I have taken note that the Eurovision 2011 logo has been uploaded to Commons on grounds that it is illegible to copyright, rather than here locally as non-free content. This marks a significant change from previous years, and I may ask for input shortly on Commons to determine for sure whether the logo(s) uploaded there are actually illegible for copyright. See Commons:Threshold of originality for more information. CT Cooper · talk 15:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
I've received some feedback at commons:Template talk:PD-textlogo/en#Opinions on Eurovision logos requested and it appears Eurovision logos are okay on Commons. This means from now on logos can simply be uploaded onto Commons, with the benefits of this including that only one upload is needed for all Wikipedia projects, and there are no longer any restrictions on usage from the WP:NFCC. I suggest that the logos be slowly uploaded onto Commons, with the local fair use simply de-linked, which will result in them being tagged by a bot and later deleted. CT Cooper · talk 22:39, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
http://www.esctoday.com/news/read/16324
San Marino has confirmed for participating in 2011. Does not San Marino in the semifinal list of participants are? (My English is not very good, i'm from Holland). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berthebest ( talk • contribs) 19:37, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
I think San Marino shouldn't be listed as confirmed till a true confirmation from SMRTV is given, till then it should be listed under "Possible returns". Their situation is exactly the same as Montenegro and Hungary, which are listed as so: they have applied, yet it's not clear whether they will participate. Please somebody remove them from the confirmed list, I've tried several times but it's always reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berthebest ( User talk:Guest) 22:03, 10 December 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.178.29.51 ( talk)
How come Liechtenstein is removed from the possible debuts section? From what I know no decision has been made about their participation yet. -- Katching ( talk) 06:11, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
On a couple of occasions now I've noticed articles are being referenced to their source, but subsequently changed to an esctoday article referencing the original source (example: San Marino confirms participation was written by escdaily.com, and referenced as such, and then changed to an esctoday.com article referencing escdaily.com.) What is the reasoning for this? It seems strange not to reference the original article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ukavsfan ( talk • contribs) 17:18, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Please refrain from adding Slovakia in the list until their non-withdrawal is secured by a reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.178.15.25 ( talk) 19:35, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
information on its 2011 participation is a bit vague. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 ( talk) 20:41, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
slovakia have withdrawn. i removed it from the list but it is back on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 ( talk • contribs)
In german wikipedia, i see a source like [6]. It seems there are 42 countries if withdraw! Please put this source if withdrawn. 81.215.239.22 ( talk) 19:34, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
There is an source which Slovakia withdrawn offically. [7] Thus withdrawn, from ESCToday. Can you put this source? If you say "no" we will wait the next source. It seems, ESCToday related to EBU! It may return to 2012 after this year's absence. Well, at least withdrawn, now that was deadline. 81.215.239.22 ( talk) 20:25, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
DAMN IT! Hey! At least may return in 2012. I'm tired of editing now! 81.215.239.22 ( talk) 20:31, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I have re-directed Slovakia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2011 as all the article discussed was the country's decision to (not) participate, which is redundant to this article. Unlike Georgia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009, there is not significant selection information worth keeping. CT Cooper · talk 20:57, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
since the big four because the big five the article should say the big five in locations where the big four is listed. i am tired of getting reverted so i wont edit it myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 ( talk) 20:58, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
“ | The four countries that are part of the "Big Four", along with the host of the contest, automatically qualify for a place in the final. For the 2011 Contest, Germany is both a "Big Four" country and the host, resulting in a vacant spot in the final. At a Reference Group meeting in Belgrade it was decided that the existing rules will remain in place, and that the number of participants in the final will simply be lowered from twenty-five to twenty-four. On 31 December 2010; the official participation list was published by the EBU, which states that with the return of Italy to the contest, this nation will become a member of the "Big Five" thus permitting them automatic qualification into the finals, alongside Germany (host), France, Spain, and the United Kingdom, and therefore restores the number of participants for the final to twenty-five nations. | ” |
-- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 10:53, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I've started another RfC on source reliability due to popular demand on this talk page. Please go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#Third RfC on source reliability to comment. CT Cooper · talk 22:46, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Given that some topics are coming up on this talk page repeatdly, like last year, I have created an FAQ to answer common questions. Please feel free to make improvements as consensus evolves, or to add further questions/answers as necessary. CT Cooper · talk 23:38, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
After looked at [8], it still seems Slovakia is still listed under Pot 6, we have still not had an official confirmation from the EBU about Slovakia's withdrawal, so could this be a mistake, or is Slovakia still in the contest? -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 18:53, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
As this information is unconfirmed by any official source from Belarus, the participant rumoured in Serbian press should not be added to the table. Evilperson 20 ( talk) 17:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello! I received a source, which says Slovakia decided to compete in EscToday [9]. This source may help to contribute the article! Now rise again to 43! 81.215.239.22 ( talk) 21:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone know why there are 10 countries in the first half of the first semi-final when there are only nine countries in the first half of the second semi-final? / Hollac16 ( talk) 12:50, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Maja told in Slovenese National Final that she will sing her song in English in Düsseldorf. The English song title is "No one". - 80.223.140.48 ( talk) 17:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC) the article on slovenia in the eurovision song contest 2011 say the same thing. perhaps the eurovision song contest 2011 article should be changed.
Here's the confirmation:
http://escdaily.com/articles/15144 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.83.217.240 ( talk) 12:34, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Hello! I see didn't source given in "Media reports regarding host city" section. Please add more source to help to improve. Template will be deleted after January 27. I'll announce when template is deleted! And refrain to revert template when already deleted! If you have a question, ask me. I'll reply your message! 81.215.239.22 ( talk) 19:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
OK, I have no idea if Slovakia is in the Eurovision or not. It's like.....weird. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roreo123eurovision ( talk • contribs)
Why was my edit to "Hamburg/Hanover Exhibition Centre" reverted? As I said in my comment, a fairground is where you go to play on rollercoasters and eat candyfloss with your kids. It's a common mistranslation of "Messe" by Germans who think they can speak English, but it's purely and simply wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.104.196 ( talk) 13:00, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
First it says that there will be 24.000 places. But in the next paragraph there are 32.000 tickets already sold. What's correct? The arena can cover 54.000 places for football or even over 66.000 for a concert but I think that won't help. -- MrEnglish ( talk) 07:20, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
it have been added earlier years(2009, 2010 at the very least.) so it should be added this year as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 ( talk • contribs)
I think that there should be a fourth color in the map showing countries that have confirmed participation. Because the green color that shows countries that have chosen artist, song and/or both, it becomes quite messy because some just chosen its artist. Therefore, there should be a fourth color. Then it will be better when you can see:
/ Hollac16 ( talk) 16:49, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello! Someone's vandalizing the page. This is a list are not permitted to the page:
Look these. Also my computer automaticly closes when too hanging out in Internet. 78.166.237.96 ( talk) 22:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Well I have removed the following languages from the selected songs:
I also have one question. Are we going to keep the source for the languages. Or can we just removed once a song is selected just like we use to do before 2010? I don't they are necessary once the song is selected. Other than that the artist name, songtitle, and even placement could be sourced. And like I said, we don't really need them
Thanks. Tony0106 ( talk) 22:02, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
I see there are a lot of "arguing" of what the meaning of the words "haba haba" are, and the reason for that is because a couple of (fairly big) newspapers in Norway have translated the *whole proverb* "haba [na] haba hujaza kibaba" (which is sung in the refrain of the song) into what it could mean figuratively. (F.ex.: http://www.tv2.no/gmn/stella-mwangi-man-blir-i-bedre-humoer-av-aa-vrikke-paa-hoftene-3411590.html, http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/01/29/kjendis/mgp/melodi_grand_prix/eurovision_song_contest/eurovision/15245203/)
One of the problems with this is that only the first words of the proverb is used in the title. In my opinion the figurative meaning should then not be applied, and neither does it match when you chop the sentence up into pieces. So using various Swahili-English translators (if those can be trusted more than the (smaller) newspapers that have a proper translation) the meaning of the single word "haba" is "little (quantity); little bit; few; slight; insignificant; scarce; in short supply; insufficient" or "scarce, rare, spare, few, scant; insignificant". Or in short, f.ex. what is actually sung at the end of the song itself "little [by] little [fills up the measure]". (
http://www.dagsavisen.no/kultur/article513987.ece,
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Swahili_proverbs#H,
http://www.kamusiproject.org/en/lookup/sw?Word=haba,
http://africanlanguages.com/swahili/) --
Laniala (
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