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This redirect is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
This is a redirect to the Dutch ID-card (as this was its "old" name). I am not aware of other countries having a card with this name; or of an article on European ID cards, so a direct link (for now)). Should an article focussing on EU identity cards appear, or more countries have been using the name European Identity Card, than a different link or disambiguation is in place... L.tak ( talk) 16:23, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
How will the EEA countries have it? Mainly Norway which recently introduced national identity cards. They can't have the EU flag on the front side, can they? Article 3 says "The identity card shall contain, on the front side, the two-letter country code of the Member State issuing the card, printed in negative in a blue rectangle and encircled by 12 yellow stars." But Norway is not a Member State, still the regulation is valid for EEA.-- BIL ( talk) 17:16, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
The EEA countries does print their country code inside the EU star on some documents, such as the EHIC ( see Norwegian example). Their residence cards are the same as in EU countries, featuring the stars in the kinegram (see Norwegian example), and their (Schengen) visas contain the "EU" code inside the circle of stars ( see Icelandic example). So no adaptions has been made for the EEA countries here. (however, the Schengen border code states that "No logo is required for Norway and Iceland" on the "EU/EEA/CH" lanes at border crossing points. As far as I know, at least in Norway, the EU stars surrounds the "EU/EEA/CH" on border crossings ( such as in airports) just like in EU countries, even tho the logo is not required).
Megyeye ( talk) 19:46, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
There is no evidence of an European identity card. Citations in the article just point to old proposals of setting up an European identity card, but what was decided with Regulation (EU) 2019/1157 is only a set of rules in order to harmonise all the id cards across the EU. We might talk about the European id card as a 'model' or, better, as a new 'minimum standard'. The idea of an actual European identity card can be very misleading and even because it is not issued by the European Union itself. Any country of the Union can decide to issue it (or not) in accordance with own national laws, in many ways and for different reasons/purposes. They are 'national' cards (not European) and, indeed, are seen like 'national' also outside EU/EEA according to the own nationality. In my opinion, a better approch to the issue could be what was done in the article of the Passports of the European Union, that is the new national identity cards of the Union will share a common format to improve security across the EU (without explicitly mentioning the European id card). Last but not least, the article of the National identity cards in the European Economic Area will soon look like a clone of this article. Maybe putting all the efforts only for one article (and pointing the other one to this one or vice versa) could be a better choice and less confusing. -- Kroby36 ( talk) 19:02, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
As we have discussed above, there is no such thing as a "European identity card". The new regulation that enters into force on 2 August 2021 contains some common provisions on the design of the national identity cards, primarily to increase the security of the cards. It does not introduce a common identity card. Similar to, e.g., passports, it is still up to every member state to decide about the exact design, under what conditions the identity card is issued etc. We should not invent our own concepts, which the author of this article has done. The content of this article should be merged into the article on national identity cards in the European Economic Area. -- Glentamara ( talk) 20:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
La creación del DNI Europeo o DNI electrónico, que responde al cumplimiento del Reglamento UE 2019/1157 del Parlamento Europeo y del Consejo de 20 de junio de 2019, de obligado cumplimiento para todos los estados de la UE a partir del próximo 2 de agosto, actualiza su imagen e incorpora nuevas medidas de seguridad, tanto visibles como invisibles. (The creation of the European ID card or electronic ID card, in compliance with EU Regulation 2019/1157 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 20 June 2019, which will be compulsory for all EU Member States from 2 August, brings an updated appearance and incorporates new security measures, both visible and invisible.)
Le recours à la seule langue anglaise pour traduire les mentions de la future carte d'identité européenne en France relève de « la bêtise symbolique », estiment la philosophe Barbara Cassin et Xavier North, ancien délégué général à la langue française et aux langues de France, dans une tribune au « Monde ». (The use of English alone to translate the wording of the future European identity card in France is "symbolic nonsense", according to philosopher Barbara Cassin and Xavier North, former general delegate for the French language and languages of France, in an article in "Le Monde".)
EU-Personalausweise mit Fingerabdrücken - und Streitpotenzial (The EU identity card with fingerprints and its potential for controversy)
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This redirect is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
This is a redirect to the Dutch ID-card (as this was its "old" name). I am not aware of other countries having a card with this name; or of an article on European ID cards, so a direct link (for now)). Should an article focussing on EU identity cards appear, or more countries have been using the name European Identity Card, than a different link or disambiguation is in place... L.tak ( talk) 16:23, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
How will the EEA countries have it? Mainly Norway which recently introduced national identity cards. They can't have the EU flag on the front side, can they? Article 3 says "The identity card shall contain, on the front side, the two-letter country code of the Member State issuing the card, printed in negative in a blue rectangle and encircled by 12 yellow stars." But Norway is not a Member State, still the regulation is valid for EEA.-- BIL ( talk) 17:16, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
The EEA countries does print their country code inside the EU star on some documents, such as the EHIC ( see Norwegian example). Their residence cards are the same as in EU countries, featuring the stars in the kinegram (see Norwegian example), and their (Schengen) visas contain the "EU" code inside the circle of stars ( see Icelandic example). So no adaptions has been made for the EEA countries here. (however, the Schengen border code states that "No logo is required for Norway and Iceland" on the "EU/EEA/CH" lanes at border crossing points. As far as I know, at least in Norway, the EU stars surrounds the "EU/EEA/CH" on border crossings ( such as in airports) just like in EU countries, even tho the logo is not required).
Megyeye ( talk) 19:46, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
There is no evidence of an European identity card. Citations in the article just point to old proposals of setting up an European identity card, but what was decided with Regulation (EU) 2019/1157 is only a set of rules in order to harmonise all the id cards across the EU. We might talk about the European id card as a 'model' or, better, as a new 'minimum standard'. The idea of an actual European identity card can be very misleading and even because it is not issued by the European Union itself. Any country of the Union can decide to issue it (or not) in accordance with own national laws, in many ways and for different reasons/purposes. They are 'national' cards (not European) and, indeed, are seen like 'national' also outside EU/EEA according to the own nationality. In my opinion, a better approch to the issue could be what was done in the article of the Passports of the European Union, that is the new national identity cards of the Union will share a common format to improve security across the EU (without explicitly mentioning the European id card). Last but not least, the article of the National identity cards in the European Economic Area will soon look like a clone of this article. Maybe putting all the efforts only for one article (and pointing the other one to this one or vice versa) could be a better choice and less confusing. -- Kroby36 ( talk) 19:02, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
As we have discussed above, there is no such thing as a "European identity card". The new regulation that enters into force on 2 August 2021 contains some common provisions on the design of the national identity cards, primarily to increase the security of the cards. It does not introduce a common identity card. Similar to, e.g., passports, it is still up to every member state to decide about the exact design, under what conditions the identity card is issued etc. We should not invent our own concepts, which the author of this article has done. The content of this article should be merged into the article on national identity cards in the European Economic Area. -- Glentamara ( talk) 20:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
La creación del DNI Europeo o DNI electrónico, que responde al cumplimiento del Reglamento UE 2019/1157 del Parlamento Europeo y del Consejo de 20 de junio de 2019, de obligado cumplimiento para todos los estados de la UE a partir del próximo 2 de agosto, actualiza su imagen e incorpora nuevas medidas de seguridad, tanto visibles como invisibles. (The creation of the European ID card or electronic ID card, in compliance with EU Regulation 2019/1157 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 20 June 2019, which will be compulsory for all EU Member States from 2 August, brings an updated appearance and incorporates new security measures, both visible and invisible.)
Le recours à la seule langue anglaise pour traduire les mentions de la future carte d'identité européenne en France relève de « la bêtise symbolique », estiment la philosophe Barbara Cassin et Xavier North, ancien délégué général à la langue française et aux langues de France, dans une tribune au « Monde ». (The use of English alone to translate the wording of the future European identity card in France is "symbolic nonsense", according to philosopher Barbara Cassin and Xavier North, former general delegate for the French language and languages of France, in an article in "Le Monde".)
EU-Personalausweise mit Fingerabdrücken - und Streitpotenzial (The EU identity card with fingerprints and its potential for controversy)