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See above —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinny Burgoo ( talk • contribs) 21:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Mr. President. In a celebrated speech at Zurich in 1946, [1] Winston Churchill described the tragedy of Europe; he compared the richness and vitality of European achievement in culture, art and science with the succession of self-destructive conflicts which has beset our continent. Instead of being a force for civilization and tolerance in the world Europe and its rivalries have been too often the causes of war, and war on a world scale. Churchill drew a deceptively simple lesson, he sought to recreate the European family and provide it with a structure under which it could dwell in peace, in safety, and in freedom. As I look around me, in this evermore important parliament of Europe, I believe that members of the parliament, and all Europeans, can be proud of what has been achieved. We are all trying to preserve the rich diversity of European countries, because if that diversity is suppressed we shall weaken Europe not strengthen it. Decisions need to be taken as close to the citizen as is compatible with their success. But at the same time, we have to strengthen the ability of Europeans, to act on a European basis, where the nature of a problem, requires a European response. So the message from the history of Strasburg of this parliament, of the community, is surely a simple one Mr. President. We must insure that the friendship and mutual respect which we have built among ourselves should extend more widely throughout our continent, and enrich our relations with the wider world. It is a worthy ambition true to the conviction and example of the founding fathers of the community. Others on our continent, long established or newly emerged democracies, increasingly look towards the European community, we must not let them down. I began with a quotation from a speech by Winston Churchill. I shall close by quoting one of Sir Winston’s most distinguished predecessors Lord Salisbury. In 1888 in a speech in Wales, he said. We are a part of a Community of Europe and we must do our duty as such. 104 years on, I salute the wisdom of those words, may God grant the same wisdom to us, as we build together our European family. [2] Stephen2nd ( talk) 16:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Ref Jlogan - With reference your POV edit – “QE2 making a speech is not notable here.”
My addition to this section is from the European Parliament Website, and it is historically factual, well cited and referenced from highly notable authorities, and specifically quoted in the speech as an “example of the founding fathers of the community.” Accordingly, I see no valid reason why the references to these historical speeches should not be included. The article begins with the statement that the (EEC) was renamed as the European Community. The “European Community” section gave no explanation why it was re-named as such. These Cited references of two British Prime Ministers, and the Queen as British Head of State, to the President of European Parliament in 1992 – quoting/endorsing the “Community of Europe,” is very notable, being of both European and British historical, political and constitutional importance. Stephen2nd ( talk) 22:42, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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The Val-Duchesse Chateau is not a castle, but a late 18th Century stately home. The term Chateau should therefore be maintained. It takes its name from the adjoining Priory, which is in its turn named for its foundress, not for its location: it lies in the valley of the river Woluwe. The entire name should therefore be anglicised as the Chateau of Val-Duchesse, in exactly the same way we do not translate Schonbrunn in Vienna. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.71.146 ( talk) 16:18, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
The United Kingdom is no longer part of the EEU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.237.85.146 ( talk) 16:37, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
I noticed this section in the article:
EEC membership was a controversial issue in the United Kingdom, the largest demonstration against the UK's membership coming on 25 March 1975 when some 400 members of the far-right National Front (known for its anti-immigration policies) demonstrated across London. [1]
I'm not familiar with this area of history, and do not know if membership of the EEC was a controversial issue or not, but the example given would suggest it was not. If the largest protest attracted only 400 members of a racist/fascist fringe group (who's "high-point" was gaining 0.6% of the vote at 1979 election...) it doesn't seem to suggest it was very controversial at all. With such a small protest, it would suggest the general public either supported it or didn't care.
So either that section is incorrect... or it needs a better example and reference to prove there was actual controversy.
Rushton2010 ( talk) 18:34, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
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Is there any reason this article doesn't mention Greenland's temporary membership and what their motivations were for joining/leaving the economic union? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.91.215.215 ( talk • contribs)
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As part of then France, Algeria was a territory of EEC at its foundation in 1957: this is correctly showed in the GIF picture of EEC evolution. But in other maps there is no trace of it. Would it not be more correct, to add it like e.g. a hatch, colourising half of the country to mark that it was (even if for just few years) part of the EEC? The same could be said about Greenland, which opted out in 1985. Filippo83 ( talk) 08:48, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
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I think "European Community" should redirect to European Union to avoid confusion as most people who are searching for information for 'European Community' are actually thinking the current EU not European Economic Community. People like myself who search on 'European Community' probably don't know enough to get the search term right and will end up reading the wrong page, even with the disclaimer on top. I have no strong conviction on this issue. Geo8rge ( talk) 14:55, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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See above —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinny Burgoo ( talk • contribs) 21:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Mr. President. In a celebrated speech at Zurich in 1946, [1] Winston Churchill described the tragedy of Europe; he compared the richness and vitality of European achievement in culture, art and science with the succession of self-destructive conflicts which has beset our continent. Instead of being a force for civilization and tolerance in the world Europe and its rivalries have been too often the causes of war, and war on a world scale. Churchill drew a deceptively simple lesson, he sought to recreate the European family and provide it with a structure under which it could dwell in peace, in safety, and in freedom. As I look around me, in this evermore important parliament of Europe, I believe that members of the parliament, and all Europeans, can be proud of what has been achieved. We are all trying to preserve the rich diversity of European countries, because if that diversity is suppressed we shall weaken Europe not strengthen it. Decisions need to be taken as close to the citizen as is compatible with their success. But at the same time, we have to strengthen the ability of Europeans, to act on a European basis, where the nature of a problem, requires a European response. So the message from the history of Strasburg of this parliament, of the community, is surely a simple one Mr. President. We must insure that the friendship and mutual respect which we have built among ourselves should extend more widely throughout our continent, and enrich our relations with the wider world. It is a worthy ambition true to the conviction and example of the founding fathers of the community. Others on our continent, long established or newly emerged democracies, increasingly look towards the European community, we must not let them down. I began with a quotation from a speech by Winston Churchill. I shall close by quoting one of Sir Winston’s most distinguished predecessors Lord Salisbury. In 1888 in a speech in Wales, he said. We are a part of a Community of Europe and we must do our duty as such. 104 years on, I salute the wisdom of those words, may God grant the same wisdom to us, as we build together our European family. [2] Stephen2nd ( talk) 16:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Ref Jlogan - With reference your POV edit – “QE2 making a speech is not notable here.”
My addition to this section is from the European Parliament Website, and it is historically factual, well cited and referenced from highly notable authorities, and specifically quoted in the speech as an “example of the founding fathers of the community.” Accordingly, I see no valid reason why the references to these historical speeches should not be included. The article begins with the statement that the (EEC) was renamed as the European Community. The “European Community” section gave no explanation why it was re-named as such. These Cited references of two British Prime Ministers, and the Queen as British Head of State, to the President of European Parliament in 1992 – quoting/endorsing the “Community of Europe,” is very notable, being of both European and British historical, political and constitutional importance. Stephen2nd ( talk) 22:42, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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The Val-Duchesse Chateau is not a castle, but a late 18th Century stately home. The term Chateau should therefore be maintained. It takes its name from the adjoining Priory, which is in its turn named for its foundress, not for its location: it lies in the valley of the river Woluwe. The entire name should therefore be anglicised as the Chateau of Val-Duchesse, in exactly the same way we do not translate Schonbrunn in Vienna. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.71.146 ( talk) 16:18, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
The United Kingdom is no longer part of the EEU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.237.85.146 ( talk) 16:37, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
I noticed this section in the article:
EEC membership was a controversial issue in the United Kingdom, the largest demonstration against the UK's membership coming on 25 March 1975 when some 400 members of the far-right National Front (known for its anti-immigration policies) demonstrated across London. [1]
I'm not familiar with this area of history, and do not know if membership of the EEC was a controversial issue or not, but the example given would suggest it was not. If the largest protest attracted only 400 members of a racist/fascist fringe group (who's "high-point" was gaining 0.6% of the vote at 1979 election...) it doesn't seem to suggest it was very controversial at all. With such a small protest, it would suggest the general public either supported it or didn't care.
So either that section is incorrect... or it needs a better example and reference to prove there was actual controversy.
Rushton2010 ( talk) 18:34, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
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Is there any reason this article doesn't mention Greenland's temporary membership and what their motivations were for joining/leaving the economic union? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.91.215.215 ( talk • contribs)
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As part of then France, Algeria was a territory of EEC at its foundation in 1957: this is correctly showed in the GIF picture of EEC evolution. But in other maps there is no trace of it. Would it not be more correct, to add it like e.g. a hatch, colourising half of the country to mark that it was (even if for just few years) part of the EEC? The same could be said about Greenland, which opted out in 1985. Filippo83 ( talk) 08:48, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
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I think "European Community" should redirect to European Union to avoid confusion as most people who are searching for information for 'European Community' are actually thinking the current EU not European Economic Community. People like myself who search on 'European Community' probably don't know enough to get the search term right and will end up reading the wrong page, even with the disclaimer on top. I have no strong conviction on this issue. Geo8rge ( talk) 14:55, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
There are quite a lot of statements that lack sources in this article.