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The silhouette of Euoplocephalus compared to the human is off. The mounted adult skeleton at the Royal Tyrrell Museum of Palaeontology is about 1.25 m tall. Like most ankylosaurs, it is considerably longer than tall. Anky-man 02:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)Anky-man
I seem to recall reading that Euoplocephalus had something really weird going on with its nasal passages. What could the purpose of this have been? To give it a better smell? Just part of a trend of weird nasal passages shared with other late Cretaceous dinosaurs (lambeosaurs, chasmosaurs, etc.)? Something else? I'm surprised this isn't even mentioned in the article. 97.104.210.67 ( talk) 19:46, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
The article says it is exceeded in size by only Ankylosaurus and another ankylosaur (cant remember the name) It lists euplocephalus at 6m long but Saichania is listed at 7m but is not the one that is said to be bigger than euplocephalus. Something is ammis here. Spinodontosaurus ( talk) 18:34, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
That's a tail bone? It looks like a human-made tool. Please replace it with a real euoplocephalus tail!
Thanks, Collin237
Regarding "No complete tail clubs are known from Euoplocephalus," Arbour and Currie (2013) list the specimen AMNH 5405 as including "skull, right mandible including predentary, handle vertebrae, humerus, ulna, osteoderms, first cervical half ring, tail club knob." Unfortunately, that specimen's club is not illustrated in the paper, but there is a figure showing several tail clubs from the various formations in question. Perhaps one of those clubs could be used for the illustration?
I am concerned that the recent additions are too closely paraphrased from their sources. J. Spencer ( talk) 23:15, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. Infringing material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. J. Spencer ( talk) 00:32, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
As expected based on the conclusions of the earlier paper on Dyoplosaurus, Scolosaurus has been split from Euoplocephalus. [2] This will be a little more problematic since Scolosaurus is known from several good specimens. It may be a big project to try and untangle it from this article and determine which mounts and life restorations can be attributed to which animal (many if not most are probably now chimeras of the two). MMartyniuk ( talk) 20:12, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
This new free paper makes a good job of sorting out the specimens: http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0062421 Luckily, it seems most images we have are still Euoplocephalus, and most skulls of mounted specimens are based on ROM 1930. FunkMonk ( talk) 21:56, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Greek: eu-/ευ- meaning 'well', hoplo-/ὁπλο- meaning 'armed' and kephale/κεφαλη meaning 'head')
i added the rough breathing diacritic to the original "oπλο" (oπλο --> ὁπλο) based on my very limited understanding of ancient greek, being that,
i also checked the article for Hoplite, which has this to say:
The word "hoplite" (Greek: ὁπλίτης hoplitēs; pl. ὁπλίται hoplitai) derives from "hoplon" (ὅπλον, plural hopla ὅπλα), the type of the shield used by the soldiers, although, as a word, "hopla" could also denote the weapons held or even full armament.
although, i don't understand the difference between hoplite and hoplon when transliterated (or transcripted?) into ὁπλίτης and ὅπλον, respectively. i don't understand the difference between ὁ and ὅ. so please change it if i am incorrect. ≈ Sensorsweep ( talk) 17:05, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Can anyone add some realiable information on how tall euoplocephalus is estimated to be into the article? I have seen figures of 1.8m, 2m, and even 2.5m on the internet but I have no idea which is correct if any.
I just noticed this article has two sections on armor. Surely one is redundant? FunkMonk ( talk) 10:46, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
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The silhouette of Euoplocephalus compared to the human is off. The mounted adult skeleton at the Royal Tyrrell Museum of Palaeontology is about 1.25 m tall. Like most ankylosaurs, it is considerably longer than tall. Anky-man 02:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)Anky-man
I seem to recall reading that Euoplocephalus had something really weird going on with its nasal passages. What could the purpose of this have been? To give it a better smell? Just part of a trend of weird nasal passages shared with other late Cretaceous dinosaurs (lambeosaurs, chasmosaurs, etc.)? Something else? I'm surprised this isn't even mentioned in the article. 97.104.210.67 ( talk) 19:46, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
The article says it is exceeded in size by only Ankylosaurus and another ankylosaur (cant remember the name) It lists euplocephalus at 6m long but Saichania is listed at 7m but is not the one that is said to be bigger than euplocephalus. Something is ammis here. Spinodontosaurus ( talk) 18:34, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
That's a tail bone? It looks like a human-made tool. Please replace it with a real euoplocephalus tail!
Thanks, Collin237
Regarding "No complete tail clubs are known from Euoplocephalus," Arbour and Currie (2013) list the specimen AMNH 5405 as including "skull, right mandible including predentary, handle vertebrae, humerus, ulna, osteoderms, first cervical half ring, tail club knob." Unfortunately, that specimen's club is not illustrated in the paper, but there is a figure showing several tail clubs from the various formations in question. Perhaps one of those clubs could be used for the illustration?
I am concerned that the recent additions are too closely paraphrased from their sources. J. Spencer ( talk) 23:15, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. Infringing material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. J. Spencer ( talk) 00:32, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
As expected based on the conclusions of the earlier paper on Dyoplosaurus, Scolosaurus has been split from Euoplocephalus. [2] This will be a little more problematic since Scolosaurus is known from several good specimens. It may be a big project to try and untangle it from this article and determine which mounts and life restorations can be attributed to which animal (many if not most are probably now chimeras of the two). MMartyniuk ( talk) 20:12, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
This new free paper makes a good job of sorting out the specimens: http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0062421 Luckily, it seems most images we have are still Euoplocephalus, and most skulls of mounted specimens are based on ROM 1930. FunkMonk ( talk) 21:56, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Greek: eu-/ευ- meaning 'well', hoplo-/ὁπλο- meaning 'armed' and kephale/κεφαλη meaning 'head')
i added the rough breathing diacritic to the original "oπλο" (oπλο --> ὁπλο) based on my very limited understanding of ancient greek, being that,
i also checked the article for Hoplite, which has this to say:
The word "hoplite" (Greek: ὁπλίτης hoplitēs; pl. ὁπλίται hoplitai) derives from "hoplon" (ὅπλον, plural hopla ὅπλα), the type of the shield used by the soldiers, although, as a word, "hopla" could also denote the weapons held or even full armament.
although, i don't understand the difference between hoplite and hoplon when transliterated (or transcripted?) into ὁπλίτης and ὅπλον, respectively. i don't understand the difference between ὁ and ὅ. so please change it if i am incorrect. ≈ Sensorsweep ( talk) 17:05, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Can anyone add some realiable information on how tall euoplocephalus is estimated to be into the article? I have seen figures of 1.8m, 2m, and even 2.5m on the internet but I have no idea which is correct if any.
I just noticed this article has two sections on armor. Surely one is redundant? FunkMonk ( talk) 10:46, 12 April 2014 (UTC)