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A recent edit to the first section that lists places where Euchre is popular added Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania to the list. This leads me to wonder, in what specific areas of the United States people play Euchre? We don't need a huge list of every single place, just a more specific and accurate description. I know that Euchre is played in the mentioned areas, as well as Indiana and Wisconsin, and is played as far south as Cincinnati. I think it would be more accurate to say that Euchre is played in the "Great Lakes Region" instead of "Midwest", since that term would imply the inclusion of places like Kansas and Missouri, but the Great Lakes already includes Western New York and Pennsylvania. Windsorwindsor1 ( talk) 18:10, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
We play it quite a bit here in Missouri, Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.208.235.66 ( talk) 15:57, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
>Article says, ..."areas as well as some other areas of the Midwest (especially areas with significant populations of German-Americans who settled in these areas during the 19th century." This implies German-Americans brought the game to the Mid-West. Specifically, which German-Americans brought the game to the mid-west? Where are the reference(s) for making such a statement? There are no references to be found that the Amish play euchre or brought the game of euchre to the mid-west. There are German-Americans in South Carolina, Virginia and North Carolina, that also migrated from PA but today do these peoples play euchre? …
The statement cited about appears to be conjecture and a leap of faith. For example, there are German-Americans in certain areas of Texas, yet do these German-American in Texas play euchre? There are Alsatian-Americans in and around New Orleans since the early 1700s, [look up the history of the French settlements of New Orleans] do they play euchre today? I think you shall find the answer to be "no" to both of these questions. -- 72.82.61.90 ( talk) 00:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.61.90 ( talk) 00:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Btw, there could be mention of this game being highly popular amongst Mennonite circles. It's one of our "Mennonite" games along with Dutch Blitz. Of course, I don't have any sort of official source for that. 70.68.121.31 ( talk) 03:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
When I read this article some years ago, I recall mention being made of a difference in play specific to central Ohio, which I remember being considered 'the standard way' when we played the game like fiends in high school in Columbus in the 1970s. I don't see that reference anymore (I think it may have had to do with terminology or some such--was it the way we tended to say "bar" instead of "bauer"?), but reading through the article now, it all now seems pretty standard to the way I learned it. leeeoooooo ( talk) 21:42, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
I live in Michigan and most people here learn how to play euchre before they reach grade 6 in school. I was always under the impression the game was derived from Bid Whist, though players don't bid on a number of tricks, per se but whichever team calls trump needs to take a minimum of 3 tricks (out of 5) to earn 1 point. Other empirical knowledge that's probably not appropriate for the article: the original game uses all four suits of 7, 8, 9, 10, J, Q, K and A, but commonly only 9, 10, J, Q, K and A are used because that's half a pinochle deck. i.e. you get 2 non-standard 24-card euchre decks when buying a single pinochle deck, which typically ends up being less-expensive than destroying 2 poker decks for 2 'full' euchre decks (once you've used them for euchre, they're no good for poker because the 2,3,4,5 and 6 are essentially 'marked' by having a different amount of wear & tear). Most people who've never played with the 7s and 8s do miserably playing with a full euchre deck at first (alternate meaning/origin of the phrase "not playing with a full deck"?), because the extra 2 trump, and extra cards with which to ruff A and/or K non-trump leads to keep K or Q for later non-trump leads, drastically changes the 24-card strategy. Darr247 ( talk) 22:20, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
As I said in my edit summary, I removed quite a lot of terms because they appear to be original research. The entries left are ones that I thought were unlikely to be challenged. I think it's better for us to have a short list until we can find some sources rather than trying to maintain an ever-expanding list full of colloquialisms. In my opinion, this is in line with Wiki's policies on original research, although obviously it's up for debate if someone wants to challenge my bold edit.
And to answer another editor's question, yes, I am trying to find sources. I actually thought it would've been easy to do so, but have not found anything so far that I think qualifies for WP:RS. -- Fyrael ( talk) 22:18, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
This article is rife with redundancies. The terminology section, for example, merely repeats terms already established in the "Deal" and "Play" sections. Speaking of which, those two sections are decidedly repetitive. (And the "Play" section also contain a bit too much advice-type material, but I digress.) seems we need to go through the article and trim repetitive material. oknazevad ( talk) 22:57, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
I propose merging Euchre game variations and Euchre variations into Euchre. There may have once been an incomplete merge of the first variations' page into the second if the talk page there ias correct. Three pages are too many, perhaps. A merger of the variation content into Euchre would not cause an article-size or weighting problem. —¿philoserf? ( talk) 00:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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How? 120.17.87.11 ( talk) 03:22, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
There is a statement in the "Origins and popularity" section that reads;
I find this statement—and the reputed sourcing—very suspicious, as our card-playing Indian chief had been dead for about 11 years at that time. Perhaps someone with the book can re-verify, or remove, as they see fit. Pinging @ Bermicourt:. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 22:44, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
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A recent edit to the first section that lists places where Euchre is popular added Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania to the list. This leads me to wonder, in what specific areas of the United States people play Euchre? We don't need a huge list of every single place, just a more specific and accurate description. I know that Euchre is played in the mentioned areas, as well as Indiana and Wisconsin, and is played as far south as Cincinnati. I think it would be more accurate to say that Euchre is played in the "Great Lakes Region" instead of "Midwest", since that term would imply the inclusion of places like Kansas and Missouri, but the Great Lakes already includes Western New York and Pennsylvania. Windsorwindsor1 ( talk) 18:10, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
We play it quite a bit here in Missouri, Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.208.235.66 ( talk) 15:57, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
>Article says, ..."areas as well as some other areas of the Midwest (especially areas with significant populations of German-Americans who settled in these areas during the 19th century." This implies German-Americans brought the game to the Mid-West. Specifically, which German-Americans brought the game to the mid-west? Where are the reference(s) for making such a statement? There are no references to be found that the Amish play euchre or brought the game of euchre to the mid-west. There are German-Americans in South Carolina, Virginia and North Carolina, that also migrated from PA but today do these peoples play euchre? …
The statement cited about appears to be conjecture and a leap of faith. For example, there are German-Americans in certain areas of Texas, yet do these German-American in Texas play euchre? There are Alsatian-Americans in and around New Orleans since the early 1700s, [look up the history of the French settlements of New Orleans] do they play euchre today? I think you shall find the answer to be "no" to both of these questions. -- 72.82.61.90 ( talk) 00:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.61.90 ( talk) 00:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Btw, there could be mention of this game being highly popular amongst Mennonite circles. It's one of our "Mennonite" games along with Dutch Blitz. Of course, I don't have any sort of official source for that. 70.68.121.31 ( talk) 03:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
When I read this article some years ago, I recall mention being made of a difference in play specific to central Ohio, which I remember being considered 'the standard way' when we played the game like fiends in high school in Columbus in the 1970s. I don't see that reference anymore (I think it may have had to do with terminology or some such--was it the way we tended to say "bar" instead of "bauer"?), but reading through the article now, it all now seems pretty standard to the way I learned it. leeeoooooo ( talk) 21:42, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
I live in Michigan and most people here learn how to play euchre before they reach grade 6 in school. I was always under the impression the game was derived from Bid Whist, though players don't bid on a number of tricks, per se but whichever team calls trump needs to take a minimum of 3 tricks (out of 5) to earn 1 point. Other empirical knowledge that's probably not appropriate for the article: the original game uses all four suits of 7, 8, 9, 10, J, Q, K and A, but commonly only 9, 10, J, Q, K and A are used because that's half a pinochle deck. i.e. you get 2 non-standard 24-card euchre decks when buying a single pinochle deck, which typically ends up being less-expensive than destroying 2 poker decks for 2 'full' euchre decks (once you've used them for euchre, they're no good for poker because the 2,3,4,5 and 6 are essentially 'marked' by having a different amount of wear & tear). Most people who've never played with the 7s and 8s do miserably playing with a full euchre deck at first (alternate meaning/origin of the phrase "not playing with a full deck"?), because the extra 2 trump, and extra cards with which to ruff A and/or K non-trump leads to keep K or Q for later non-trump leads, drastically changes the 24-card strategy. Darr247 ( talk) 22:20, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
As I said in my edit summary, I removed quite a lot of terms because they appear to be original research. The entries left are ones that I thought were unlikely to be challenged. I think it's better for us to have a short list until we can find some sources rather than trying to maintain an ever-expanding list full of colloquialisms. In my opinion, this is in line with Wiki's policies on original research, although obviously it's up for debate if someone wants to challenge my bold edit.
And to answer another editor's question, yes, I am trying to find sources. I actually thought it would've been easy to do so, but have not found anything so far that I think qualifies for WP:RS. -- Fyrael ( talk) 22:18, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
This article is rife with redundancies. The terminology section, for example, merely repeats terms already established in the "Deal" and "Play" sections. Speaking of which, those two sections are decidedly repetitive. (And the "Play" section also contain a bit too much advice-type material, but I digress.) seems we need to go through the article and trim repetitive material. oknazevad ( talk) 22:57, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
I propose merging Euchre game variations and Euchre variations into Euchre. There may have once been an incomplete merge of the first variations' page into the second if the talk page there ias correct. Three pages are too many, perhaps. A merger of the variation content into Euchre would not cause an article-size or weighting problem. —¿philoserf? ( talk) 00:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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How? 120.17.87.11 ( talk) 03:22, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
There is a statement in the "Origins and popularity" section that reads;
I find this statement—and the reputed sourcing—very suspicious, as our card-playing Indian chief had been dead for about 11 years at that time. Perhaps someone with the book can re-verify, or remove, as they see fit. Pinging @ Bermicourt:. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 22:44, 3 March 2023 (UTC)