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Okay, we really need to address the Notable Alumni issue. In my opinion, any person who doesn't have a reference or a wikipedia page to their name should be deleted, and I am prepared to do so in a week. So if anyone is actually reading this, please tell me what you think. ( Yohowithrum ( talk) 20:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC))
I deleted two names who didn't look right and didn't come up in search engines. The rest of the people who don't have wikipedia pages I have placed {{ Fact}} on. I will work a little bit on them, but I'd like some help. Also, I am liable to just delete them if I can't find anything. ( Yohowithrum ( talk) 20:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC))
I deleted a few more individuals who are not notable. ( Yohowithrum ( talk) 20:23, 20 March 2008 (UTC))
This passage seems to depart from NPOV:
Dcandeto 07:14, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
hey, it is the arts school that was founded first as a specialised art school in canada, and is considered the most prestigious and difficult to get into in Canada, I dont think that goes against the NPOV. It may sound like a blanket opinion however it is actually fact, even if the claim seems rather audacious to you.
Canada uses the british form of specialised, with an 's'. So please stop changing it. Look it up. ~~~~
The article is wrong, as often happens on wikipedia. I am using the Canadian Oxford dictionary, which is far more authoritative then an uncited fact from that article. Please desist with your incessant vandalising of this page or I will report you. Carry on.~~~~
Sorry for the late addition.
Specialize is spelled with a z [1]. It should generally be an s but this word is a z. I also checked the Gage Canadian dictionary.
As a general rule, wikipedia is written in the American English format. However, in articles dealing with specific countries ( a school in Canada) then the style of spelling for that country is used. Quoting from [2]:
-- Statsone 20:41, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
What do you guys think of ESA?i heard from 3 people from my school that i shouldn't go because they have homosexuals at their school?is it true?
Of course its not true. Who the hell are you? I go to ESA, and I know it is one of Canadas best school. There are homosexuals at ESA but no more then you would find at LCI. Longbranch 16:37, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey Ian, Holy Crap there are a lot of A-Holes and Homophobes on Wiki! I also go to ESA and I frankly think that not only are we proud to have Homosexuals at ESA, we are also known as the best arts school in the GTA. We only say it because every other god damned person says it too! - Yohowithrum September 26th, 2007 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 01:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I will leave the edit to someone else but... I believe the claim that it is Canada's oldest arts-focused high school is wrong. As far as I know "F.A.C.E. School" is the oldest (founded in 1975). Please see the wiki page for it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.A.C.E._School Unless you have a reference for that claim, that sentence should be edited out. And P.S. Please give us a break with the anti-gay comments!-- Pollysix 19:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
ESA is Canada's oldest arts focused school. Having done some research (Your links well provided) on F.A.C.E. School, I have found that FACE is not purely an arts highschool, but a school with an arts focus. Longbranch 20:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I am an alumni of F.A.C.E. and I can assure you it is an arts high school. "F.A.C.E." stands for "Fine Arts Core Education". Here's a quote from their website: "F.A.C.E. offers an integrated arts program, from pre-kindergarten to secondary 5. Art education, consisting of visual arts, drama, instrumental and vocal music which make up a third of the curriculum, is mandatory for all students, as are the academic subjects." (source: http://face.csdm.qc.ca/english/direction/index.html) The distinction between "arts high school" and "art focused" is purely rhetorical. Yes, the students still need to take things like Math and English, but apart from that it's arts courses. If anything the distinction might be becuase F.A.C.E. includes both an elementary and high school levels, whereas ESA is h.s. only. Not sure. Best regards. -- Pollysix 21:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I think it would be best to settle at ESA being the first public art High Schol. And FACE being the first public arts school. Sounds good? Longbranch 03:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Sure. It's no big deal. I just noticed it and found it strange that the Ontario school board stated it. They must not have known about F.A.C.E., possibly because it's in Quebec and is mainly french. Oh well, just wanted to make sure the facts were straight.:-) -- Pollysix 18:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
That seems typical of the Ontario government. ( Yohowithrum 21:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC))
After reviewing the article per the criteria listed on WP:WIAGA, I have observed that it does not meet the criteria for the following reasons. Please feel free to use these as starting points in an improvement of the article.
Some positive aspects I found in the article were that notability was clearly established in the introduction without any unnecessary cheerleading, and the article seemed to be very comprehensive in its coverage. VanTucky 17:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with this, especially the list of alumni, many of which seem to not be very significant at all. Perhaps it would be a start to attempt to find some references for the more famous ones and outright delete the alumni without their own wikipedia article? I just suggest that as an attempt to weed out the non-notable alumni. If anybody else has a better idea to categorize them, I'm all ears. Whiskyrye ( talk) 04:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I believe the list of Alumni is necessary to the article and compliments the article. One would put a quote from a magazine praising the school, why would one not want to see famous people who have graduated from ESA. This of course does not fully encompass all attendees, for if it were a list of Attendees, Mr. Keanu Reeves would be on it. Therefore, I think it is frivolous to this the alumni list needs to be put away. ( Yohowithrum ( talk) 16:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC))
I have rated this article as C/Low. The article is long and well written, however the lack of referencing severely affects the article's rating. If this article was properly referenced, then I expect it would be able to achieve GA standard. TheAuthor22 ( talk) 12:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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Okay, we really need to address the Notable Alumni issue. In my opinion, any person who doesn't have a reference or a wikipedia page to their name should be deleted, and I am prepared to do so in a week. So if anyone is actually reading this, please tell me what you think. ( Yohowithrum ( talk) 20:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC))
I deleted two names who didn't look right and didn't come up in search engines. The rest of the people who don't have wikipedia pages I have placed {{ Fact}} on. I will work a little bit on them, but I'd like some help. Also, I am liable to just delete them if I can't find anything. ( Yohowithrum ( talk) 20:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC))
I deleted a few more individuals who are not notable. ( Yohowithrum ( talk) 20:23, 20 March 2008 (UTC))
This passage seems to depart from NPOV:
Dcandeto 07:14, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
hey, it is the arts school that was founded first as a specialised art school in canada, and is considered the most prestigious and difficult to get into in Canada, I dont think that goes against the NPOV. It may sound like a blanket opinion however it is actually fact, even if the claim seems rather audacious to you.
Canada uses the british form of specialised, with an 's'. So please stop changing it. Look it up. ~~~~
The article is wrong, as often happens on wikipedia. I am using the Canadian Oxford dictionary, which is far more authoritative then an uncited fact from that article. Please desist with your incessant vandalising of this page or I will report you. Carry on.~~~~
Sorry for the late addition.
Specialize is spelled with a z [1]. It should generally be an s but this word is a z. I also checked the Gage Canadian dictionary.
As a general rule, wikipedia is written in the American English format. However, in articles dealing with specific countries ( a school in Canada) then the style of spelling for that country is used. Quoting from [2]:
-- Statsone 20:41, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
What do you guys think of ESA?i heard from 3 people from my school that i shouldn't go because they have homosexuals at their school?is it true?
Of course its not true. Who the hell are you? I go to ESA, and I know it is one of Canadas best school. There are homosexuals at ESA but no more then you would find at LCI. Longbranch 16:37, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey Ian, Holy Crap there are a lot of A-Holes and Homophobes on Wiki! I also go to ESA and I frankly think that not only are we proud to have Homosexuals at ESA, we are also known as the best arts school in the GTA. We only say it because every other god damned person says it too! - Yohowithrum September 26th, 2007 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 01:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I will leave the edit to someone else but... I believe the claim that it is Canada's oldest arts-focused high school is wrong. As far as I know "F.A.C.E. School" is the oldest (founded in 1975). Please see the wiki page for it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.A.C.E._School Unless you have a reference for that claim, that sentence should be edited out. And P.S. Please give us a break with the anti-gay comments!-- Pollysix 19:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
ESA is Canada's oldest arts focused school. Having done some research (Your links well provided) on F.A.C.E. School, I have found that FACE is not purely an arts highschool, but a school with an arts focus. Longbranch 20:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I am an alumni of F.A.C.E. and I can assure you it is an arts high school. "F.A.C.E." stands for "Fine Arts Core Education". Here's a quote from their website: "F.A.C.E. offers an integrated arts program, from pre-kindergarten to secondary 5. Art education, consisting of visual arts, drama, instrumental and vocal music which make up a third of the curriculum, is mandatory for all students, as are the academic subjects." (source: http://face.csdm.qc.ca/english/direction/index.html) The distinction between "arts high school" and "art focused" is purely rhetorical. Yes, the students still need to take things like Math and English, but apart from that it's arts courses. If anything the distinction might be becuase F.A.C.E. includes both an elementary and high school levels, whereas ESA is h.s. only. Not sure. Best regards. -- Pollysix 21:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I think it would be best to settle at ESA being the first public art High Schol. And FACE being the first public arts school. Sounds good? Longbranch 03:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Sure. It's no big deal. I just noticed it and found it strange that the Ontario school board stated it. They must not have known about F.A.C.E., possibly because it's in Quebec and is mainly french. Oh well, just wanted to make sure the facts were straight.:-) -- Pollysix 18:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
That seems typical of the Ontario government. ( Yohowithrum 21:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC))
After reviewing the article per the criteria listed on WP:WIAGA, I have observed that it does not meet the criteria for the following reasons. Please feel free to use these as starting points in an improvement of the article.
Some positive aspects I found in the article were that notability was clearly established in the introduction without any unnecessary cheerleading, and the article seemed to be very comprehensive in its coverage. VanTucky 17:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with this, especially the list of alumni, many of which seem to not be very significant at all. Perhaps it would be a start to attempt to find some references for the more famous ones and outright delete the alumni without their own wikipedia article? I just suggest that as an attempt to weed out the non-notable alumni. If anybody else has a better idea to categorize them, I'm all ears. Whiskyrye ( talk) 04:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I believe the list of Alumni is necessary to the article and compliments the article. One would put a quote from a magazine praising the school, why would one not want to see famous people who have graduated from ESA. This of course does not fully encompass all attendees, for if it were a list of Attendees, Mr. Keanu Reeves would be on it. Therefore, I think it is frivolous to this the alumni list needs to be put away. ( Yohowithrum ( talk) 16:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC))
I have rated this article as C/Low. The article is long and well written, however the lack of referencing severely affects the article's rating. If this article was properly referenced, then I expect it would be able to achieve GA standard. TheAuthor22 ( talk) 12:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)