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The section "Date of the eruption" of the present version of this article begins, "The year of the eruption is pinned to AD 79 (that is, the corresponding year of the Roman ab urbe condita calendar era)" -- which contains a significant mistake. The ancient Romans never used the ab urbe condita dating on a regular basis, in part because there was no consensus which year Rome was founded in (the "traditional" date of 753 BC was only one of many used; when Jerome wrote his Chronicle in the 4th century AD, he stated the year of Rome's founding as 755 BC!), but mostly because the accepted practice would have been to date the year by the presiding Consul Ordinarius. For AD 79, those consuls would have been Vespasian & Titus. I'd correct the text, but I don't know which primary source -- if any -- provides the consuls who presided in this year, let alone the primary sources that provide the information that provides the date. -- llywrch ( talk) 21:17, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
This new find could tip the scales in favour of late October or November, but we should await the scientific discussion which will surely follow, before we make any definite change of date: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/16/archeological-find-changes-date-of-pompeiis-destruction 83.254.130.142 ( talk) 04:43, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello; I'm writing with regard to: /info/en/?search=Mount_Vesuvius and /info/en/?search=Eruption_of_Mount_Vesuvius_in_79_AD
I've just finished a 9-year project on the Eruption of Mt. Vesuvius in AD 79, and the Letters of Pliny the Younger about that event. The book will be published by Routledge in March 2022. The book offers a number of corrections and clarifications to the nature, sequence, and date of the eruption, and the evidence for each.
I have posted some results on my professional blog: https://quemdixerechaos.com/2022/01/07/the-date-of-the-ad-79-vesuvius-eruption-in-the-textual-sources/
This link contains a video presented last week to the Annual Meeting of the Archaeological Institute of America. It specifically explains why the Aug. 24 date is the date that Pliny the Younger recorded in the written sources. There is also a link to the book at the publisher's website; the book examines all the archaeological evidence for alternate (autumn) dates.
There has been much debate about the date recently; this book project has been an effort to clear that up.
I have not previously engaged in any requests for edits on Wikipedia, so I apologize if I don't yet understand all the protocols; I just want to provide the public with the most recent and sound arguments and evidence. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Pedar W. Foss, Professor of Classical Studies DePauw University, Greencastle, IN USA Pfoss ( talk) 14:39, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
"(Note that the Julian calendar was in place throughout the first century AD – that is, the months of the Roman calendar were aligned with the seasons.)"
Well, not more "aligned with seasons" than in today's Gregorian calendar. I really have no clue what was meant here, but the remark in the brackets, as is, is absurd. 83.28.217.137 ( talk) 14:27, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
All the info comes from the well-known two letters by Pliny the Younger, as mentioned in the text. There are no other contemporary sources for the eruption, and all we know about it, we know from Pliny. There is no need to add reference to every sentence. The text transmits Pliny’s information accurately. 76.14.8.195 ( talk) 19:14, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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The section "Date of the eruption" of the present version of this article begins, "The year of the eruption is pinned to AD 79 (that is, the corresponding year of the Roman ab urbe condita calendar era)" -- which contains a significant mistake. The ancient Romans never used the ab urbe condita dating on a regular basis, in part because there was no consensus which year Rome was founded in (the "traditional" date of 753 BC was only one of many used; when Jerome wrote his Chronicle in the 4th century AD, he stated the year of Rome's founding as 755 BC!), but mostly because the accepted practice would have been to date the year by the presiding Consul Ordinarius. For AD 79, those consuls would have been Vespasian & Titus. I'd correct the text, but I don't know which primary source -- if any -- provides the consuls who presided in this year, let alone the primary sources that provide the information that provides the date. -- llywrch ( talk) 21:17, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
This new find could tip the scales in favour of late October or November, but we should await the scientific discussion which will surely follow, before we make any definite change of date: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/16/archeological-find-changes-date-of-pompeiis-destruction 83.254.130.142 ( talk) 04:43, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello; I'm writing with regard to: /info/en/?search=Mount_Vesuvius and /info/en/?search=Eruption_of_Mount_Vesuvius_in_79_AD
I've just finished a 9-year project on the Eruption of Mt. Vesuvius in AD 79, and the Letters of Pliny the Younger about that event. The book will be published by Routledge in March 2022. The book offers a number of corrections and clarifications to the nature, sequence, and date of the eruption, and the evidence for each.
I have posted some results on my professional blog: https://quemdixerechaos.com/2022/01/07/the-date-of-the-ad-79-vesuvius-eruption-in-the-textual-sources/
This link contains a video presented last week to the Annual Meeting of the Archaeological Institute of America. It specifically explains why the Aug. 24 date is the date that Pliny the Younger recorded in the written sources. There is also a link to the book at the publisher's website; the book examines all the archaeological evidence for alternate (autumn) dates.
There has been much debate about the date recently; this book project has been an effort to clear that up.
I have not previously engaged in any requests for edits on Wikipedia, so I apologize if I don't yet understand all the protocols; I just want to provide the public with the most recent and sound arguments and evidence. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Pedar W. Foss, Professor of Classical Studies DePauw University, Greencastle, IN USA Pfoss ( talk) 14:39, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
"(Note that the Julian calendar was in place throughout the first century AD – that is, the months of the Roman calendar were aligned with the seasons.)"
Well, not more "aligned with seasons" than in today's Gregorian calendar. I really have no clue what was meant here, but the remark in the brackets, as is, is absurd. 83.28.217.137 ( talk) 14:27, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
All the info comes from the well-known two letters by Pliny the Younger, as mentioned in the text. There are no other contemporary sources for the eruption, and all we know about it, we know from Pliny. There is no need to add reference to every sentence. The text transmits Pliny’s information accurately. 76.14.8.195 ( talk) 19:14, 20 April 2024 (UTC)