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22:51, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
South Shields does not appear to be in County Durham. evrik 15:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
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(I would greatly like to see any evidence that Seton was a Theosophist himself, as it would tie in with research I'm doing - please e-mail if you know of such! TomSwiss ( talk) 03:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
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There are several mentions of Ernest Thompson Seton's appropriation of American Indian culture. While this may very well be true, these statements uncited and carry implicit bias. It would be interesting to add a "Controversy" section and expand on these appropriation allegations, rather than having statements scattered throughout the article. It feels like an elephant in the room.
1) "He is responsible for the appropriation and incorporation of what he believed to be American Indian elements into the traditions of the BSA."
2) "He formed the Woodcraft Indians in 1902 and invited the local youth to join. Despite the name, the group was made up of non-native boys and girls."
3) "Seton was Chief Scout of the BSA from 1910–1915 and his work is in large part responsible for the appropriation and incorporation of what he believed to be American Indian elements into the traditions of the BSA. However, he had significant personality and philosophical clashes with Beard and James E. West."
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Riebennacht ( talk) 16:32, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
This one sounds to be not real. The source is very limited, the claim can be out of context. I found no other factual source other than the google books link which gives only one sentence following by an "Originally" followup sentence start which could be the origin of the made up story. Whoever does have the book could check it.
For me this story sound like the movie plot I was searching for and found this Wiki page. All the references [6][7][8] are younger than the movie I am looking for (~ early 90s). 89.134.28.185 ( talk) 21:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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South Shields does not appear to be in County Durham. evrik 15:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
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(I would greatly like to see any evidence that Seton was a Theosophist himself, as it would tie in with research I'm doing - please e-mail if you know of such! TomSwiss ( talk) 03:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
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There are several mentions of Ernest Thompson Seton's appropriation of American Indian culture. While this may very well be true, these statements uncited and carry implicit bias. It would be interesting to add a "Controversy" section and expand on these appropriation allegations, rather than having statements scattered throughout the article. It feels like an elephant in the room.
1) "He is responsible for the appropriation and incorporation of what he believed to be American Indian elements into the traditions of the BSA."
2) "He formed the Woodcraft Indians in 1902 and invited the local youth to join. Despite the name, the group was made up of non-native boys and girls."
3) "Seton was Chief Scout of the BSA from 1910–1915 and his work is in large part responsible for the appropriation and incorporation of what he believed to be American Indian elements into the traditions of the BSA. However, he had significant personality and philosophical clashes with Beard and James E. West."
Thoughts on a controversy section?
Riebennacht ( talk) 16:32, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
This one sounds to be not real. The source is very limited, the claim can be out of context. I found no other factual source other than the google books link which gives only one sentence following by an "Originally" followup sentence start which could be the origin of the made up story. Whoever does have the book could check it.
For me this story sound like the movie plot I was searching for and found this Wiki page. All the references [6][7][8] are younger than the movie I am looking for (~ early 90s). 89.134.28.185 ( talk) 21:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)