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The article on the film states that Coppola came close to casting Borgnine, who was favored by the studio, instead of Brando. I think this is fairly significant and (unless I missed it?) should be mentioned in the acting section. Tulliux ( talk) 15:28, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Ernest is 93 and looks like he's in his 70's. He looks amazing considering his age, and in fact, it is what drew me to this article. I am disappointed that there's no information on the page about it though. -- 208.51.23.54 ( talk) 13:53, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Why is the Los Angeles Times' thoughts on his Lifetime Achievement Award--which they disparage not because he doesn't deserve it but because they disagree with his opinions on matters entirely unrelated to the awarding of awards--in any way relevant? 72.10.119.239 ( talk) 04:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)curious
His Simpsons episode is listed in this section, which aired in November of 1993... don't know how to best re-arrange. Jeffman1911 | Talk 10:55, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
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Is this a RS for the freemason content? You really can 13:04, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Is the last sentence about Borgnine's whispered comment/joke relevant? It seems more like a snickering gotcha submitted by a high school sophomore. Wikipedia is not, by its own admission, an encyclopedia of every little thing a person has done or said, but the relevant things someone has done. The paragraph should be removed by a moderator for its pointlessness. Catherinejarvis ( talk) 18:35, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
The 1997 sci fi film GATTACA featured Borgnine in a small (but very memorable role) as a head janitor (and the main character's boss) who is ironically named "Caesar". Borgnine, along with the film's lead character, had been relegated to this low job because his DNA profile is considered "substandard" in that near future world where people are not allowed to advance unless their DNA looks good. The film's too few Borgnine scenes show the star's ability to make such a tiny role memorable! 108.74.158.53 ( talk) 02:56, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
After its initial release this film had second one that was titled Shack which was Borgnine's character. I can remember the ads featuring some of his most brutal scenes. I can't seem to find any info about this on the net. I know that some of you are aces at research so I thought leave this note for any of you who might be able to find a reliable source about this so that we can add it too the article for the film and to the notes section of his filmography. Thanks ahead of time for your efforts. MarnetteD | Talk 19:13, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I noted that the article first states Mr. Borgnine was an only child, then later indicates he had one sister. I'm not sure which is correct, but thought I would bring it to your attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.240.33.211 ( talk) 02:37, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Let's see if we can add sources and get this article to B class. God bless you, Ernie.– Lionel ( talk) 04:54, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
Borgnine died on 8 July but he's showing up on my "Recent Deaths" as 8 August. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.163.65.158 ( talk) 00:11, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
I hope that my edit to this article solves the problem. I have stuck carefully to the information given in the reference and placed it, appropriately I hope, in its own sub-section. Richard Keatinge ( talk) 10:08, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
The previous derogatory item was removed, properly. Yet a new one is added - the story (footnote 14) of Borgnine's conversation with Ethel Merman, which is basically an insult to both of them and comes from an uncredited website that amounts to unprovable gossip. Remember, wikipedia is not a list of everything a person may or may not have done or said, but relevant information which can be credited to a reputable source. This website is not a source and the "story" should be removed. Catherinejarvis ( talk) 18:09, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Is there really a diphthong or glide or [o:] in Borgnine? wouldn't an open [O:] (as in the Borg, or boredom, or shore) be more English? I am aware that Italian /o/ or /O/ is often /ou/ - especially in US English - but still, in front of /r/? That seems a bit odd. 178.83.53.75 ( talk) 12:05, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
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"He was noted for his gruff but calm voice, Machiavellian eyebrows, [...]" Did he/she mean mephistophelian eyebrows?
Vesna Tomic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.221.86.3 ( talk) 20:54, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
"He received the special honor for his naval service and support of the Navy and navy families worldwide."
Not sure how to expand on his "support"; based solely on personal experience.
Some years back, on a Valentine's Day, ran into Mr. Borgnine at the VA hospital in Washington, D.C., as he was exiting an elevator. He smiled, gave me a hearty "Hello!," and shook my hand. The next week, I told the social worker I was seeing there about the exchange, and he said that Mr. Borgnine regularly visited VA hospitals on special days like Valentine's, Memorial, etc. BubbleDine ( talk) 14:55, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Possible ways to describe Borgnine's last role:
First one is the current one. User:MarnetteD likes it that way, I prefer #2. (#3 is a possible compromise I suppose). I prefer #2 because "Rex Page" doesn't tell the reader much. Rex Page could be the lead, second lead, minor character, or whatever. (This is assuming you haven't seen the movie, which few have I guess.) This character could be named Rex Page, Joe Shmoe, or anything else -- it's not important. "Title role" tells the reader that he probably played an important role (he did, altho I'm not sure it was the lead so I can't say that). (The question of whether a film that doesn't have an actual personal name as the title can have a title could bear on this. Was Jackie Coogan the title role in "The Kid"? Sidney Poitier in "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner"? Gene Wilder in "The Man With One Red Shoe"? In my opinion, yes.) Herostratus ( talk) 02:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
...in the line of soldiers gossiping about Alvin York's capture of the Germans at Verdun (face is unmistakable, even with a heavy mustache; voice is unmistakable as well.); research, comments. Ajpajpajp1 ( talk) 23:35, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
In 2004, Borgnine received the honorary rank of Chief Petty Officer from the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy Terry D. Scott - the U.S. Navy's highest ranking enlisted sailor at the time - for Borgnine's support of the Navy and Navy families worldwide.
https://navylog.navymemorial.org/borgnine-ernest 47.161.33.81 ( talk) 00:11, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
HE was promoted to Chief petty Officer by MCPON of the navy. for 12 years his friends called him Chief you dishonor his memory by demoting him to first class. If you want to say Chief Petty officer Honorary that would be acceptable and much more accurate than demoting him to first class at death. 2600:1015:A025:C196:1DCB:B2E:913C:C45C ( talk) 09:22, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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The article on the film states that Coppola came close to casting Borgnine, who was favored by the studio, instead of Brando. I think this is fairly significant and (unless I missed it?) should be mentioned in the acting section. Tulliux ( talk) 15:28, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Ernest is 93 and looks like he's in his 70's. He looks amazing considering his age, and in fact, it is what drew me to this article. I am disappointed that there's no information on the page about it though. -- 208.51.23.54 ( talk) 13:53, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Why is the Los Angeles Times' thoughts on his Lifetime Achievement Award--which they disparage not because he doesn't deserve it but because they disagree with his opinions on matters entirely unrelated to the awarding of awards--in any way relevant? 72.10.119.239 ( talk) 04:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)curious
His Simpsons episode is listed in this section, which aired in November of 1993... don't know how to best re-arrange. Jeffman1911 | Talk 10:55, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Ernest-Borgnine 2004.JPEG will be appearing as picture of the day on January 24, 2012. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2012-01-24. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks! — howcheng { chat} 17:58, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Is this a RS for the freemason content? You really can 13:04, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Is the last sentence about Borgnine's whispered comment/joke relevant? It seems more like a snickering gotcha submitted by a high school sophomore. Wikipedia is not, by its own admission, an encyclopedia of every little thing a person has done or said, but the relevant things someone has done. The paragraph should be removed by a moderator for its pointlessness. Catherinejarvis ( talk) 18:35, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
The 1997 sci fi film GATTACA featured Borgnine in a small (but very memorable role) as a head janitor (and the main character's boss) who is ironically named "Caesar". Borgnine, along with the film's lead character, had been relegated to this low job because his DNA profile is considered "substandard" in that near future world where people are not allowed to advance unless their DNA looks good. The film's too few Borgnine scenes show the star's ability to make such a tiny role memorable! 108.74.158.53 ( talk) 02:56, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
After its initial release this film had second one that was titled Shack which was Borgnine's character. I can remember the ads featuring some of his most brutal scenes. I can't seem to find any info about this on the net. I know that some of you are aces at research so I thought leave this note for any of you who might be able to find a reliable source about this so that we can add it too the article for the film and to the notes section of his filmography. Thanks ahead of time for your efforts. MarnetteD | Talk 19:13, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I noted that the article first states Mr. Borgnine was an only child, then later indicates he had one sister. I'm not sure which is correct, but thought I would bring it to your attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.240.33.211 ( talk) 02:37, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Let's see if we can add sources and get this article to B class. God bless you, Ernie.– Lionel ( talk) 04:54, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
Borgnine died on 8 July but he's showing up on my "Recent Deaths" as 8 August. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.163.65.158 ( talk) 00:11, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
I hope that my edit to this article solves the problem. I have stuck carefully to the information given in the reference and placed it, appropriately I hope, in its own sub-section. Richard Keatinge ( talk) 10:08, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
The previous derogatory item was removed, properly. Yet a new one is added - the story (footnote 14) of Borgnine's conversation with Ethel Merman, which is basically an insult to both of them and comes from an uncredited website that amounts to unprovable gossip. Remember, wikipedia is not a list of everything a person may or may not have done or said, but relevant information which can be credited to a reputable source. This website is not a source and the "story" should be removed. Catherinejarvis ( talk) 18:09, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Is there really a diphthong or glide or [o:] in Borgnine? wouldn't an open [O:] (as in the Borg, or boredom, or shore) be more English? I am aware that Italian /o/ or /O/ is often /ou/ - especially in US English - but still, in front of /r/? That seems a bit odd. 178.83.53.75 ( talk) 12:05, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
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"He was noted for his gruff but calm voice, Machiavellian eyebrows, [...]" Did he/she mean mephistophelian eyebrows?
Vesna Tomic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.221.86.3 ( talk) 20:54, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
"He received the special honor for his naval service and support of the Navy and navy families worldwide."
Not sure how to expand on his "support"; based solely on personal experience.
Some years back, on a Valentine's Day, ran into Mr. Borgnine at the VA hospital in Washington, D.C., as he was exiting an elevator. He smiled, gave me a hearty "Hello!," and shook my hand. The next week, I told the social worker I was seeing there about the exchange, and he said that Mr. Borgnine regularly visited VA hospitals on special days like Valentine's, Memorial, etc. BubbleDine ( talk) 14:55, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Possible ways to describe Borgnine's last role:
First one is the current one. User:MarnetteD likes it that way, I prefer #2. (#3 is a possible compromise I suppose). I prefer #2 because "Rex Page" doesn't tell the reader much. Rex Page could be the lead, second lead, minor character, or whatever. (This is assuming you haven't seen the movie, which few have I guess.) This character could be named Rex Page, Joe Shmoe, or anything else -- it's not important. "Title role" tells the reader that he probably played an important role (he did, altho I'm not sure it was the lead so I can't say that). (The question of whether a film that doesn't have an actual personal name as the title can have a title could bear on this. Was Jackie Coogan the title role in "The Kid"? Sidney Poitier in "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner"? Gene Wilder in "The Man With One Red Shoe"? In my opinion, yes.) Herostratus ( talk) 02:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
...in the line of soldiers gossiping about Alvin York's capture of the Germans at Verdun (face is unmistakable, even with a heavy mustache; voice is unmistakable as well.); research, comments. Ajpajpajp1 ( talk) 23:35, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
In 2004, Borgnine received the honorary rank of Chief Petty Officer from the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy Terry D. Scott - the U.S. Navy's highest ranking enlisted sailor at the time - for Borgnine's support of the Navy and Navy families worldwide.
https://navylog.navymemorial.org/borgnine-ernest 47.161.33.81 ( talk) 00:11, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
HE was promoted to Chief petty Officer by MCPON of the navy. for 12 years his friends called him Chief you dishonor his memory by demoting him to first class. If you want to say Chief Petty officer Honorary that would be acceptable and much more accurate than demoting him to first class at death. 2600:1015:A025:C196:1DCB:B2E:913C:C45C ( talk) 09:22, 28 February 2024 (UTC)