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People in the then province of Eritrea were citizens of Ethiopia during the war of independence. What better language can be used to improve lines such as "... drive the Ethiopians out of Eritrea"? Unless legitimate argument can be made that a significant number of people in the region were aligned with Eritrea and not Ethiopia for the duration of the war.. On a related note, was ELF and EPLF fighting the regimes in Ethiopia or Ethiopia the nation? This confusion permeates this article. "Derg managed to repulse the Somalian incursion..." is an example of this. 164.106.133.200 ( talk) 02:08, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
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I didnt realize this was a 30 year war until I read "The war went on for 30 years until 1991..." in the lead. The lead jumps from the "1950s" to 1974 without mentioning that the war began in 1961. Seems to be a lot missing and there is not much in the main part of the article.-- NortyNort (Holla) 16:45, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Is it really accurate to have Cuba listed as an active participant in this war? According to most sources, Cuba actually declined to intervene in support of Ethiopia, insisting that the Eritrean issue was an internal affair of Ethiopia. In addition, it would be weird if Cuba made a u-turn in this conflict, which could badly harm its image in Africa and its reliability in the eyes of its allies. Indeed Cuba was an ally of Mengistu, and Cuba did involve themselves in the Ogaden War on the side of Ethiopia. But there seems to be limited evidence of direct involvement in Eritrea. Yes, there are some sources that claim they were indeed involved, most of which seems to be based on US government sources, but there are plenty of sources claiming exactly the opposite, which also seems to be more credible. -- Te og kaker ( talk) 08:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
User:Minketorn has added Cuba once again, just like he's done several times previously with different IP adresses/sockpuppet accounts. This time, he does actually add a source which indeed says Cuba were there, from an encyclopedia about civil wars. Still, the fact is that those scholars who have indeed studied Cuban foreign politics or the Eritrean war in debt contradict this statement - and I would find these more reliable than just a general encyclopedia. There are numerous sources that I find more reliable that says just the opposite, namely that Cuba DID indeed cease the support for the Eritreans, but that it still refused to send troops to back Mengistu's forces there, insisting on a political solution. Cuba did indeed have a military presence in Ethiopia from the Ogaden War until the late 1980s - but they were there for training the Ethiopian armed forces, not in order to fight against the Eritreans. It's also true that Cuba's participation in Ogaden did indirectly help Mengistu in Eritrea, because he was able to keep a presence in Eritrea, Tigray and other dissenting regions during the Somalian invasion. Yet, although this indirect support helped Mengistu keep control over Eritrea, this is not the same as a participation in the Eritrean War!
Here are what some sources say about the subject in question:
Do you want even more sources? I guess that wouldn't change your insistence about adding the false claim that Cuban troops participated in this war though, because you have obviously made up your mind about this and won't change it no matter how much proof you get that this wasn't the case. Previously, your IPs have added blogs as sources and wrongfully cited sources that do not claim that Cuba participated but exactly the opposite to falsely "prove" that Cuba participated. You have even added names of alleged "Cuban military commanders" who don't even exist in the infoboxes of this article and those of battles in this war, to wrongfully back up your claims of Cuban involvement, so you are obviously not very interested in the facts but just obsessed with claiming that Cuba participated. Neither have you ever come with any arguments on this talk either. Why are you so obsessed with adding this over and over again? Could you please stop this disruptive editing? Cuba's refusal to participate against the war against the Eritrean rebels, despite Mengistu's repeated requests, is well-documented. -- Te og kaker ( talk) 12:58, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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People in the then province of Eritrea were citizens of Ethiopia during the war of independence. What better language can be used to improve lines such as "... drive the Ethiopians out of Eritrea"? Unless legitimate argument can be made that a significant number of people in the region were aligned with Eritrea and not Ethiopia for the duration of the war.. On a related note, was ELF and EPLF fighting the regimes in Ethiopia or Ethiopia the nation? This confusion permeates this article. "Derg managed to repulse the Somalian incursion..." is an example of this. 164.106.133.200 ( talk) 02:08, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
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I didnt realize this was a 30 year war until I read "The war went on for 30 years until 1991..." in the lead. The lead jumps from the "1950s" to 1974 without mentioning that the war began in 1961. Seems to be a lot missing and there is not much in the main part of the article.-- NortyNort (Holla) 16:45, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Is it really accurate to have Cuba listed as an active participant in this war? According to most sources, Cuba actually declined to intervene in support of Ethiopia, insisting that the Eritrean issue was an internal affair of Ethiopia. In addition, it would be weird if Cuba made a u-turn in this conflict, which could badly harm its image in Africa and its reliability in the eyes of its allies. Indeed Cuba was an ally of Mengistu, and Cuba did involve themselves in the Ogaden War on the side of Ethiopia. But there seems to be limited evidence of direct involvement in Eritrea. Yes, there are some sources that claim they were indeed involved, most of which seems to be based on US government sources, but there are plenty of sources claiming exactly the opposite, which also seems to be more credible. -- Te og kaker ( talk) 08:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
User:Minketorn has added Cuba once again, just like he's done several times previously with different IP adresses/sockpuppet accounts. This time, he does actually add a source which indeed says Cuba were there, from an encyclopedia about civil wars. Still, the fact is that those scholars who have indeed studied Cuban foreign politics or the Eritrean war in debt contradict this statement - and I would find these more reliable than just a general encyclopedia. There are numerous sources that I find more reliable that says just the opposite, namely that Cuba DID indeed cease the support for the Eritreans, but that it still refused to send troops to back Mengistu's forces there, insisting on a political solution. Cuba did indeed have a military presence in Ethiopia from the Ogaden War until the late 1980s - but they were there for training the Ethiopian armed forces, not in order to fight against the Eritreans. It's also true that Cuba's participation in Ogaden did indirectly help Mengistu in Eritrea, because he was able to keep a presence in Eritrea, Tigray and other dissenting regions during the Somalian invasion. Yet, although this indirect support helped Mengistu keep control over Eritrea, this is not the same as a participation in the Eritrean War!
Here are what some sources say about the subject in question:
Do you want even more sources? I guess that wouldn't change your insistence about adding the false claim that Cuban troops participated in this war though, because you have obviously made up your mind about this and won't change it no matter how much proof you get that this wasn't the case. Previously, your IPs have added blogs as sources and wrongfully cited sources that do not claim that Cuba participated but exactly the opposite to falsely "prove" that Cuba participated. You have even added names of alleged "Cuban military commanders" who don't even exist in the infoboxes of this article and those of battles in this war, to wrongfully back up your claims of Cuban involvement, so you are obviously not very interested in the facts but just obsessed with claiming that Cuba participated. Neither have you ever come with any arguments on this talk either. Why are you so obsessed with adding this over and over again? Could you please stop this disruptive editing? Cuba's refusal to participate against the war against the Eritrean rebels, despite Mengistu's repeated requests, is well-documented. -- Te og kaker ( talk) 12:58, 17 April 2020 (UTC)