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The result of the move request was page not moved. —
harej (
talk) 09:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)reply
This is covered by
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles)#Sovereigns, which states: "If a monarch or prince is overwhelmingly known, in English, by a
cognomen, it may be used, and there is then no need to disambiguate by adding Country. Examples:
Alfred the Great,
Charlemagne,
Louis the Pious,
Henry the Lion,
Skanderbeg, etc...". But there must be consensus so strong that it would be surprising to omit the epithet; and the name must actually be unambiguous. For example, although
Richard the Lionheart is often used, Richard I is not unusual, so he is at
Richard I of England". Looking over the article I see nothing to support consensus so strong that it would be surprising to omit the epithet, so it looks to me that the page is in the proper location right now. That a redirect exists from the version using his cognomin actually further erodes the case to move the page, since either page leads to the same content. If there is in fact consensus that "Eric the Memorable" unambiguously refers to the subject of this article, then that should already be established in the article (through text and especially referencing). —
V = I * R (
talk) 15:27, 8 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Eric the Memorable appears to be less common than "
Eric II of Denmark" alone, to say nothing of the other ways to refer to him. Most of the discussion appears to be books of nicknames, not histories of Denmark. Since, IIRC, the meaning of the epithet is conjecture, however plausible, and it has not been widely adopted in English, the mention and the redirect are enough.
SeptentrionalisPMAnderson 20:24, 9 August 2009 (UTC)reply
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was page not moved. —
harej (
talk) 09:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)reply
This is covered by
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles)#Sovereigns, which states: "If a monarch or prince is overwhelmingly known, in English, by a
cognomen, it may be used, and there is then no need to disambiguate by adding Country. Examples:
Alfred the Great,
Charlemagne,
Louis the Pious,
Henry the Lion,
Skanderbeg, etc...". But there must be consensus so strong that it would be surprising to omit the epithet; and the name must actually be unambiguous. For example, although
Richard the Lionheart is often used, Richard I is not unusual, so he is at
Richard I of England". Looking over the article I see nothing to support consensus so strong that it would be surprising to omit the epithet, so it looks to me that the page is in the proper location right now. That a redirect exists from the version using his cognomin actually further erodes the case to move the page, since either page leads to the same content. If there is in fact consensus that "Eric the Memorable" unambiguously refers to the subject of this article, then that should already be established in the article (through text and especially referencing). —
V = I * R (
talk) 15:27, 8 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Eric the Memorable appears to be less common than "
Eric II of Denmark" alone, to say nothing of the other ways to refer to him. Most of the discussion appears to be books of nicknames, not histories of Denmark. Since, IIRC, the meaning of the epithet is conjecture, however plausible, and it has not been widely adopted in English, the mention and the redirect are enough.
SeptentrionalisPMAnderson 20:24, 9 August 2009 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.