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I'm sorry. The first sentence on this page is kind of...primitive or something. Can someone think of anything better? I took a class on Entrepreneurship at Clemson University from the highest paid professor at the school, a man named William Gartner, and we discussed the definition of entrepreneurship, among other things, for the entire semester. I'm not suggesting a specific first sentence, but the first one, well, it could use some work. Most people only read the first couple of sentences and this lead is a bit...non-descriptive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.29.126 ( talk) 10:36, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
I do not agree with MrOllie's last edit on the page where he deleted all of external links except of one. There were links to sites (isemi for instance) which do not contain any promotions and do not sell anything to US. They just give information about entrepreurship. Therefore, I suggest to restore that kind of links.
O7oleg ( talk) 07:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
external link [1] is broken..
The Global Entrepreneurship Montitor ( http://gemconsortium.org/) conducts annually a cross country study of one measure of entrepreneurship: recent start-ups.
The above statement is not correct: the GEM is NOT a measure of recent start-ups. The Global Entrepreneurship Monitor is comprisesd of two instruments: an adult population survey and an expert survey which are designed among other things to measure early stage, nascent entrepreneurship but also to measure the ecology of entrepreneurial activity. This includes elements of the legal and financial system which are percieved by entrepreneurs and respondents to impeed the ability of individuals to start new firms. It also includes whether a society "values" entrepreneurial activity. The most proprietary measure produced by the GEM program is the Tendancy to Entrepreneurial Activity (TEA). This is a measure of the propensity to engage in entrepreneurship standardized against within-culture preferences, and is not a proxy for or merely a measure of recent start-ups. In many cases, TEA consists of individuals considering starting businesses within a given period of time, and is constrained not merely to recent firms but firms which are less than 42 months old. It is also not a single cross-country study but instead, these instruments are standardized and the surveys deployed by local teams across more than 60 countries. The standardization enables cross-country comparisons and aggregation of the data. The current GEM is managed by the Global Entrepreneurship Research Association, which is a consortia of more than 100 scholars in more than 60 countries. The GEM does consider itself primarily with for profit business and not forms of social entrepreneurship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Entscholar ( talk • contribs) 00:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
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Please add link to Wikipedia article: Search Fund —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.253.29.2 ( talk) 17:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC).
If you want to start a business you should have a big plan of how you want to do it and then no matter where you are in your life you can start the bussiness.
This comment was removed from the References, and placed here, where it is more appropriate.]
We have examples of communities like Gujarati, Marwari community from India. That is a good example to discuss and analyse how this community migrated and establish themselves as successful entrepreneur at different places.
The following reference should be added to the Entrepreneurship reference list: World Bank Group Entrepreneurship Database, http://www.ifc.org/ifcext/sme.nsf/Content/Resources, 2006.
This page does not have the semi protection catagory or tags on it, yet it seems to be semi-protected (message appears in edit box). Dylan 02:19, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
the source: The Economist, March 11, 2006, pp 67) should read The Economist, March 9, 2006, pp 67)
I put a link back up because it is a link to useful information that can't be incorporated into the article. It's full of articles and papers by various committees studying entreprenuership. There are also databases somewhere, too. If anyone has a problem with this link tell me! sex me harder
......................hehehehe........ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.83.17.129 ( talk) 03:26, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Whats so funny? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.2.69 ( talk) 22:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
An entrepreneurship is a business or other organization started by an entrepreneur, or business person. The enterprise can be for profit or be a non-profit venture. Business management skills, marketing knowledge, an understanding of the demand of the product or service as well as risk management analysis are all crucial considerations in an entrepreneurship.
Risk management is important when starting up a new business, especially as many entrepreneurships fail in the first year. Expenses have to be covered and the entrepreneur must have the initiative and time available to invest in the enterprise. The risks such as start-up funds that could be lost have to be calculated and then deemed acceptable by the prospective entrepreneur before he or she goes ahead with the entrepreneurship.
The demand for the product or service also has to be calculated carefully by the prospective entrepreneur. What is the expected demand for the product or service? Will the business be able to meet the expected demand? These are just some of the questions that need to be answered before deciding if an entrepreneurship is a good idea.
Marketing knowledge is also essential for the entrepreneur. He or she must understand how to promote the product or service, what price it should be sold for, how and when the product will be produced and how and where the product will be sold. There are many marketing details to be figured out if the entrepreneurship is to be a success.
Business management skills such as planning, budgeting, record-keeping and negotiating are also important to an entrepreneurship. The entrepreneur must be able to work well alone on many different aspects of the business, at least until employees are hired. Entrepreneurships are considered beneficial to the economy as they usually create new jobs as they experience growth.
Non-profit entrepreneurships can provide needed community services, but they require the same skills as for-profit businesses. These entrepreneurships must meet regulations about how donations are used and often must have their finances publicly displayed. Most non-profit entrepreneurships rely on volunteers to meet their objectives.
questtion -
1. Discuss the genetic point of view of Entrepreneurship, if they are born or made. (detailed discussion needed)
2. how to write a business plan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.204.224.15 ( talk) 10:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
added this section: In 2009, a new type of entrepreneurship emerged known as LILO entrepreneurship. LILO stands for "a little in, a lot out". This type of entrepreneurship does not use business plans; opting for a inmediate try-out at minimal expense instead. LILO enterprises are set up with a minimum of start-up capital and are designed to operate at very low cost. Some of the companies set up via LILO entrepreneurship are no more costly than a hobby. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.182.199.16 ( talk) 17:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Under "Advantages, #19, what is "iffience"? & resources is spelled wrong. Stars4change ( talk) 17:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
"The Rich and the Super-Rich" by Ferdinand Lundberg: "The best advice to 85 to 95 percent of Americans contemplating opening their own business would, in light of the facts, be "Don't." "The small business enterprise has been steadily driven out of business by failure...in the 1960's exceeding 15,000 annually... The figures tell little of blasted hopes in the uneven race toward business success...It is almost a cardinal rule that only small businesses go out of existence through bankruptcy... One of the effects of the propaganda about business success (propaganda based on a meager number of instances) is to encourage each year thousands of illusion-ridden citizens to jump into the business whirlpool. .. All they accomplish in most cases, sooner or later, is to enrich with their small bankrolls the coffers of suppliers of business equipment... By every known sign, entering into business for oneself in the United States is now, and always has been, a highly risky affair... Most who remain in business do so on the thinnest of survival margins... Many are hopelessly in debt. A simple run of unseasonable weather... But in addition to misfortunes of local circumstance there stand in the background the asset-heavy large enterprises, which survive all vicissitudes, like granite cliffs against the sea." Entrepreneurs usually blame themselves for failure instead of the System. Stars4change ( talk) 17:36, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
"In business, under the American system, each year the failures exceed the new successes by a very, very, very wide margin... It has failure literally built into it. It is indeed a near miracle, front page news, when anyone really makes it... misleading propaganda... By the one-sided stressing by propaganda organs of the few successes, many are lead to lose their hard-earned savings in establishing new businesses... His doom is virtually sealed with his very first move..." Stars4change ( talk) 00:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
entrepreneurship is an economic concept. The word entrepreneurshipo is drived from the frech word entreprendre the meaning of which is to undertake the risk of new entrprise —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.213.252 ( talk) 12:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I am altering the line that reads: ...act of being an entrepreneur, which is a French word... Entrepreneur is in fact, not a French word, it is also an English word. There are dozens of words shared between both languages and adopted from either one. While the word rntrepreneur may originate from French it is as English of a word as any other loan word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.227.224.8 ( talk) 22:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
entrepreneur is a locomotioned played by adiccted or shabu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.1.11.162 ( talk) 10:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Although some roots of entrepreneurship are referenced in this section, there is no mention of entrepreneurship as one of the four fundamental resources in traditional economics, (i.e., Land, Labor, Capital, and Entrepreneurship) anywhere in this article. Since this view of entrepreneurship as a resource is a major part of the modern definition and how it is connected with other resources in an economic sense, it should be included somewhere here. Since it is seen as a resource, this section could lead into how the entrepreneurship as a human phenomenon is quantified, showing the natural resource potential from a statistically, economically, and scientifically accurate perspective, which is useful and informative on this topic. It seems placement should be in the History section, and should be included with re-write/re-organization of of that section to give a logical and progressive flow of ideas without losing the information which is already there. Here is my proposed re-org outline for the History section:
[]Entrepreneurship should be discussed, defined, and given historical perspective (including existing citations), with the inclusion of how it is a seen as a natural resource in modern economics today (with new citations as needed). These changes should be made in such a way that introduces how entrepreneurship became recognized as a fundamental natural resource in human economic systems the world over during the 19th and 20th centuries, leading to the understanding of entrepreneurship in modern economics we have today.
Following that... []An Entrepreneur, as one who practices entrepreneurship, should then be enumerated with its own definition, historical usage, development (including existing citations), and then include a sub-section on 1.) {what are generally considered to be} traits of an entrepreneur (the current parts under "SkillSet" could be moved here), 2.) the relative frequency with which these traits occur in the population (Journal of Psychology citations), and 3.) the expected number and distribution of entrepreneurial talent in the world (or country, local, etc.) population;(approximately 1 in 20, Gallop Research citations), as compared by the reported numbers of entrepreneurs (in the US) by SBA, Dept of Commerce, BLS, etc.
This information is painfully lacking in this informative article on Entrepreneurship, so that is why I bring it up for discussion. I am a wikipedia editor in the Physics Portal (under ~AK ( talk) 11:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC)), but have not been active for some time. I am familiar with the concept of entrepreneurship in both theory and practice, and since I was looking for this information today but did not find it readily accessible on wikipedia, I figured I would mention it here. I would like the business and economics editing community for this page to consider incorporating this for inclusion in an article that is very important to both fields of knowledge. Thank you. Added March 9, 2015. ( ~AK ( talk) 11:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC))
Now, since about 2010, it has just become a buzzword and more or less means "business".-unsigned 08/26/2014
Or more accurately, it means "successful, aggressive business focused on growth and accumulating wealth, which benefits both the businessman and society". As such, it is just a political term used for the purposes of the debates surrounding the Great Recession. I don't have a problem with an article about an ideological position, but it should make explicit that it is about an ideological position and not pretend that it is about an objective concept. For your consideration:
and above all, this: http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=entrepreneurship#q=entrepreneurship&geo=US&gprop=news&cmpt=q seems to indicate that interest in the press in this term picked up around 2009, peaked around 2012 and is now on the decline.
Now I know that political economics is all about buzzwords. But really, Wikipedia can do better than parrot this. For crying out loud, the Global Entrepreneurship Week is about "exposing people to the benefits of entrepreneurship" and abouot making them "participate in entrepreneurial-related activities". This is just pathetic.
Apparently, modern "entrepreneurship research" as an academic field originates in the 1980s. As such, it would focus on the processes involved in the emergences of new businesses, and what dynamics contribute to their success or failure. This is not how the term is now used at all. It has now become the term for some sort of supposed virtue or desirable character trait, according to a paragraph which I have just removed from the page,
Basically, it would appear from the above, it's the neoliberalist's term for "The Messiah". What this boils down to is just 19th-century capitalism, "we need aggressive businessmen with carpetbagger mentalities who are willing to take every risk play the dog-eat-dog game and we will all be ok". Maybe we will, I have no opinion on these things, but I would assume that if people were serious about these ideas, they wouldn't need to hide behind jargon all the time.
If this was still in any way about research (as in, honest study of) on founding new businesses, you would expect the outcome to be more complex as "be an entrepreneur!". You would have to make very complicated statements on how taking risks and aiming for growth can turn out really well, but sometimes also leads to complete failure, and what (if anything) we know about the contributing factors. Instead it seems to be more or less about telling people "be like Richard Branson, be ab entrepreneur, have a manly chin, be sure to innovate and to take every possible risk with your capital and that of your funders and you will be rich and sexy". Of course nobody would buy it from me if I put it in these terms, but that's what you need jargon for, right? -- dab (𒁳) 15:22, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Discussion area for proposed merger of Entrepreneur to Entrepreneurship. Proposal date=August 1, 2013. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 18:55, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Not sure what policy you are citing here regarding the number of pictures in the article (as in its current state) is violating. Or is this just a personal feeling? Please be more specific before again removing content which has been a part of the article(s) for some time now. Thanks, GenQuest "Talk to Me" 21:15, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Re. recent revert: Please see Wikipedia:Image use policy section "User-created images", 1st paragraph. TMCk ( talk) 00:15, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Can it be that those pushing a certain POV on this article wished to supress it? The normal practice is that the talk page moves with the article. Lycurgus ( talk) 23:19, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, that it is not as you say is confirmed for example, here. Lycurgus ( talk) 05:23, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Re your recent edit of the Entrepreneurship page, copied below.
"(cur | prev) 03:31, 25 November 2014 IjonTichyIjonTichy (talk | contribs) . . (38,501 bytes) (-763) . . (→Recent developments: remove confusing, meaningless gibberish. This mumbo jumbo may be at best a niche, fringe idea and is not widely reported in the mainstream literature on entrepreneurship. Thanks.)"
I do not know how to start a talk page to discuss your edit. Could you do that? Entrepreneurship is a concept, which is far from stable, therefore, new inputs should be discussed. Also "Recent developments", which was the heading, is normally not widely reported. (Unsigned comment on 17:40, 25 November 2014 by User: Mdpienaar)
I guess the Google filters in your country and South-Africa work not the same. a Google search for "intequity jetems" in South-Africa shows the first researched paper with regard to intequity: jetems.scholarlinkresearch.com/articles/Management%20Accounting.pdf if you are interested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdpienaar ( talk • contribs) 18:42, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
I think you should say that one has to get very rich first so they can then be an entrepreneur. And also to get a job, any job anywhere. Pepper9798 ( talk) 22:06, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
How can a homeless, sick person become an entrepreneur? Pepper9798 ( talk) 00:33, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Woo hoo, one among millions. Pepper9798 ( talk) 00:10, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Ferdinand Lundberg said in his 1968 book, "The Rich and the Super-Rich", page 299, the small enterprise in the United States is, and always was, a highly risky affair, which have been steadily driven out of business. Most who remain in business do so on the thinnest of survival margins, constantly financed by short-term bank loans, the constant prey to recessions, regional strikes or even vagaries of the weather. A simple run of unseasonable weather regularly drives out of business hordes of hopeful operators of small resorts, hotels, stores and service enterprises. [Then on page 94) The American system, businesswise, is a record of steady, almost unrelieved failure. It has failure literally built into it. Big corporations of established equipment suppliers sell and resell the same equipment to a long string of losers incited into action by florid accounts of success by the Wall Street Journal, Fortune and other media. The best advice to Americans is "don't." Pepper9798 ( talk) 16:39, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
I noticed that this page has no "controversy" (dissent, drawbacks) section, which is probably one of the biggest global problems today (that the concept "you can become a rich and powerful individual" is so flattering that people now blindly accept anything associated with it as a "good".
Entrepreneurship is in fact one aspect of the neoliberal ideology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8A0:FE06:D001:5949:BD77:CD59:58B8 ( talk) 16:53, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
That Ferdinand Lundberg quote above, would be a good start for a drawbacks section. 162.205.217.211 ( talk) 18:23, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello all. I don't really have a solution to my concern here...and am a fairly new Wikipedia editor/contributor. However, as someone who does research in the field, the definition provided for entrepreneurship is deeply problematic and fundamentally incorrect ("Entrepreneurship is the process of starting a business, typically a startup company offering an innovative product, process or service"). The classic definition pulls more from the work of Schumpeter and is much more correctly conceptualized as 'venture formation' wherein the venture may or may not be or become a business. While Schumpeter is mentioned later it seems to be somewhat mis-characterized to support the presented POV on entrepreneurship rather than as the work that frames the whole discussion. I thought about editing just that section but I feel like the majority of the article flows from there and such a localized edit would largely change the tone and focus of the whole article. Thoughts? -- 128.211.169.1 ( talk) 14:58, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Can a short definition of serial entrepreneur be included in the body of the article? Thanks! Triplecaña ( talk) 12:56, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
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Instead of edit-warring, please discuss the disputed edit here. First of all, the edit misses basic bibliographic details - where was this study published (if at all)? Has it been reviewed? What is the author's expertise? I found a "Pearson MSc, PhD" via Google but his fields of expertise are robotics and engineering, not entrepeneurship or business topics in general. Secondly, most of the added paragraph violates WP:NPOV in its generalizing adulation of entrepeneurs. If the study has been written in the same uncritical PR speak, I strongly recommend to rewrite these parts. Lastly, aside from the questions about the source and the unencyclopedic biased language, Wikipedia is no venue to promote recent research (see also WP:CITESPAM) - such self-promotional edits are prohibited. GermanJoe ( talk) 07:14, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
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I'm sorry. The first sentence on this page is kind of...primitive or something. Can someone think of anything better? I took a class on Entrepreneurship at Clemson University from the highest paid professor at the school, a man named William Gartner, and we discussed the definition of entrepreneurship, among other things, for the entire semester. I'm not suggesting a specific first sentence, but the first one, well, it could use some work. Most people only read the first couple of sentences and this lead is a bit...non-descriptive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.29.126 ( talk) 10:36, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
I do not agree with MrOllie's last edit on the page where he deleted all of external links except of one. There were links to sites (isemi for instance) which do not contain any promotions and do not sell anything to US. They just give information about entrepreurship. Therefore, I suggest to restore that kind of links.
O7oleg ( talk) 07:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
external link [1] is broken..
The Global Entrepreneurship Montitor ( http://gemconsortium.org/) conducts annually a cross country study of one measure of entrepreneurship: recent start-ups.
The above statement is not correct: the GEM is NOT a measure of recent start-ups. The Global Entrepreneurship Monitor is comprisesd of two instruments: an adult population survey and an expert survey which are designed among other things to measure early stage, nascent entrepreneurship but also to measure the ecology of entrepreneurial activity. This includes elements of the legal and financial system which are percieved by entrepreneurs and respondents to impeed the ability of individuals to start new firms. It also includes whether a society "values" entrepreneurial activity. The most proprietary measure produced by the GEM program is the Tendancy to Entrepreneurial Activity (TEA). This is a measure of the propensity to engage in entrepreneurship standardized against within-culture preferences, and is not a proxy for or merely a measure of recent start-ups. In many cases, TEA consists of individuals considering starting businesses within a given period of time, and is constrained not merely to recent firms but firms which are less than 42 months old. It is also not a single cross-country study but instead, these instruments are standardized and the surveys deployed by local teams across more than 60 countries. The standardization enables cross-country comparisons and aggregation of the data. The current GEM is managed by the Global Entrepreneurship Research Association, which is a consortia of more than 100 scholars in more than 60 countries. The GEM does consider itself primarily with for profit business and not forms of social entrepreneurship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Entscholar ( talk • contribs) 00:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maaparty ( talk • contribs) 10:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC).
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Jameel ( User talk:Jameel • contribs) 4:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC).
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Please add link to Wikipedia article: Search Fund —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.253.29.2 ( talk) 17:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC).
If you want to start a business you should have a big plan of how you want to do it and then no matter where you are in your life you can start the bussiness.
This comment was removed from the References, and placed here, where it is more appropriate.]
We have examples of communities like Gujarati, Marwari community from India. That is a good example to discuss and analyse how this community migrated and establish themselves as successful entrepreneur at different places.
The following reference should be added to the Entrepreneurship reference list: World Bank Group Entrepreneurship Database, http://www.ifc.org/ifcext/sme.nsf/Content/Resources, 2006.
This page does not have the semi protection catagory or tags on it, yet it seems to be semi-protected (message appears in edit box). Dylan 02:19, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
the source: The Economist, March 11, 2006, pp 67) should read The Economist, March 9, 2006, pp 67)
I put a link back up because it is a link to useful information that can't be incorporated into the article. It's full of articles and papers by various committees studying entreprenuership. There are also databases somewhere, too. If anyone has a problem with this link tell me! sex me harder
......................hehehehe........ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.83.17.129 ( talk) 03:26, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Whats so funny? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.2.69 ( talk) 22:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
An entrepreneurship is a business or other organization started by an entrepreneur, or business person. The enterprise can be for profit or be a non-profit venture. Business management skills, marketing knowledge, an understanding of the demand of the product or service as well as risk management analysis are all crucial considerations in an entrepreneurship.
Risk management is important when starting up a new business, especially as many entrepreneurships fail in the first year. Expenses have to be covered and the entrepreneur must have the initiative and time available to invest in the enterprise. The risks such as start-up funds that could be lost have to be calculated and then deemed acceptable by the prospective entrepreneur before he or she goes ahead with the entrepreneurship.
The demand for the product or service also has to be calculated carefully by the prospective entrepreneur. What is the expected demand for the product or service? Will the business be able to meet the expected demand? These are just some of the questions that need to be answered before deciding if an entrepreneurship is a good idea.
Marketing knowledge is also essential for the entrepreneur. He or she must understand how to promote the product or service, what price it should be sold for, how and when the product will be produced and how and where the product will be sold. There are many marketing details to be figured out if the entrepreneurship is to be a success.
Business management skills such as planning, budgeting, record-keeping and negotiating are also important to an entrepreneurship. The entrepreneur must be able to work well alone on many different aspects of the business, at least until employees are hired. Entrepreneurships are considered beneficial to the economy as they usually create new jobs as they experience growth.
Non-profit entrepreneurships can provide needed community services, but they require the same skills as for-profit businesses. These entrepreneurships must meet regulations about how donations are used and often must have their finances publicly displayed. Most non-profit entrepreneurships rely on volunteers to meet their objectives.
questtion -
1. Discuss the genetic point of view of Entrepreneurship, if they are born or made. (detailed discussion needed)
2. how to write a business plan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.204.224.15 ( talk) 10:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
added this section: In 2009, a new type of entrepreneurship emerged known as LILO entrepreneurship. LILO stands for "a little in, a lot out". This type of entrepreneurship does not use business plans; opting for a inmediate try-out at minimal expense instead. LILO enterprises are set up with a minimum of start-up capital and are designed to operate at very low cost. Some of the companies set up via LILO entrepreneurship are no more costly than a hobby. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.182.199.16 ( talk) 17:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Under "Advantages, #19, what is "iffience"? & resources is spelled wrong. Stars4change ( talk) 17:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
"The Rich and the Super-Rich" by Ferdinand Lundberg: "The best advice to 85 to 95 percent of Americans contemplating opening their own business would, in light of the facts, be "Don't." "The small business enterprise has been steadily driven out of business by failure...in the 1960's exceeding 15,000 annually... The figures tell little of blasted hopes in the uneven race toward business success...It is almost a cardinal rule that only small businesses go out of existence through bankruptcy... One of the effects of the propaganda about business success (propaganda based on a meager number of instances) is to encourage each year thousands of illusion-ridden citizens to jump into the business whirlpool. .. All they accomplish in most cases, sooner or later, is to enrich with their small bankrolls the coffers of suppliers of business equipment... By every known sign, entering into business for oneself in the United States is now, and always has been, a highly risky affair... Most who remain in business do so on the thinnest of survival margins... Many are hopelessly in debt. A simple run of unseasonable weather... But in addition to misfortunes of local circumstance there stand in the background the asset-heavy large enterprises, which survive all vicissitudes, like granite cliffs against the sea." Entrepreneurs usually blame themselves for failure instead of the System. Stars4change ( talk) 17:36, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
"In business, under the American system, each year the failures exceed the new successes by a very, very, very wide margin... It has failure literally built into it. It is indeed a near miracle, front page news, when anyone really makes it... misleading propaganda... By the one-sided stressing by propaganda organs of the few successes, many are lead to lose their hard-earned savings in establishing new businesses... His doom is virtually sealed with his very first move..." Stars4change ( talk) 00:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
entrepreneurship is an economic concept. The word entrepreneurshipo is drived from the frech word entreprendre the meaning of which is to undertake the risk of new entrprise —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.213.252 ( talk) 12:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I am altering the line that reads: ...act of being an entrepreneur, which is a French word... Entrepreneur is in fact, not a French word, it is also an English word. There are dozens of words shared between both languages and adopted from either one. While the word rntrepreneur may originate from French it is as English of a word as any other loan word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.227.224.8 ( talk) 22:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
entrepreneur is a locomotioned played by adiccted or shabu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.1.11.162 ( talk) 10:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Although some roots of entrepreneurship are referenced in this section, there is no mention of entrepreneurship as one of the four fundamental resources in traditional economics, (i.e., Land, Labor, Capital, and Entrepreneurship) anywhere in this article. Since this view of entrepreneurship as a resource is a major part of the modern definition and how it is connected with other resources in an economic sense, it should be included somewhere here. Since it is seen as a resource, this section could lead into how the entrepreneurship as a human phenomenon is quantified, showing the natural resource potential from a statistically, economically, and scientifically accurate perspective, which is useful and informative on this topic. It seems placement should be in the History section, and should be included with re-write/re-organization of of that section to give a logical and progressive flow of ideas without losing the information which is already there. Here is my proposed re-org outline for the History section:
[]Entrepreneurship should be discussed, defined, and given historical perspective (including existing citations), with the inclusion of how it is a seen as a natural resource in modern economics today (with new citations as needed). These changes should be made in such a way that introduces how entrepreneurship became recognized as a fundamental natural resource in human economic systems the world over during the 19th and 20th centuries, leading to the understanding of entrepreneurship in modern economics we have today.
Following that... []An Entrepreneur, as one who practices entrepreneurship, should then be enumerated with its own definition, historical usage, development (including existing citations), and then include a sub-section on 1.) {what are generally considered to be} traits of an entrepreneur (the current parts under "SkillSet" could be moved here), 2.) the relative frequency with which these traits occur in the population (Journal of Psychology citations), and 3.) the expected number and distribution of entrepreneurial talent in the world (or country, local, etc.) population;(approximately 1 in 20, Gallop Research citations), as compared by the reported numbers of entrepreneurs (in the US) by SBA, Dept of Commerce, BLS, etc.
This information is painfully lacking in this informative article on Entrepreneurship, so that is why I bring it up for discussion. I am a wikipedia editor in the Physics Portal (under ~AK ( talk) 11:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC)), but have not been active for some time. I am familiar with the concept of entrepreneurship in both theory and practice, and since I was looking for this information today but did not find it readily accessible on wikipedia, I figured I would mention it here. I would like the business and economics editing community for this page to consider incorporating this for inclusion in an article that is very important to both fields of knowledge. Thank you. Added March 9, 2015. ( ~AK ( talk) 11:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC))
Now, since about 2010, it has just become a buzzword and more or less means "business".-unsigned 08/26/2014
Or more accurately, it means "successful, aggressive business focused on growth and accumulating wealth, which benefits both the businessman and society". As such, it is just a political term used for the purposes of the debates surrounding the Great Recession. I don't have a problem with an article about an ideological position, but it should make explicit that it is about an ideological position and not pretend that it is about an objective concept. For your consideration:
and above all, this: http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=entrepreneurship#q=entrepreneurship&geo=US&gprop=news&cmpt=q seems to indicate that interest in the press in this term picked up around 2009, peaked around 2012 and is now on the decline.
Now I know that political economics is all about buzzwords. But really, Wikipedia can do better than parrot this. For crying out loud, the Global Entrepreneurship Week is about "exposing people to the benefits of entrepreneurship" and abouot making them "participate in entrepreneurial-related activities". This is just pathetic.
Apparently, modern "entrepreneurship research" as an academic field originates in the 1980s. As such, it would focus on the processes involved in the emergences of new businesses, and what dynamics contribute to their success or failure. This is not how the term is now used at all. It has now become the term for some sort of supposed virtue or desirable character trait, according to a paragraph which I have just removed from the page,
Basically, it would appear from the above, it's the neoliberalist's term for "The Messiah". What this boils down to is just 19th-century capitalism, "we need aggressive businessmen with carpetbagger mentalities who are willing to take every risk play the dog-eat-dog game and we will all be ok". Maybe we will, I have no opinion on these things, but I would assume that if people were serious about these ideas, they wouldn't need to hide behind jargon all the time.
If this was still in any way about research (as in, honest study of) on founding new businesses, you would expect the outcome to be more complex as "be an entrepreneur!". You would have to make very complicated statements on how taking risks and aiming for growth can turn out really well, but sometimes also leads to complete failure, and what (if anything) we know about the contributing factors. Instead it seems to be more or less about telling people "be like Richard Branson, be ab entrepreneur, have a manly chin, be sure to innovate and to take every possible risk with your capital and that of your funders and you will be rich and sexy". Of course nobody would buy it from me if I put it in these terms, but that's what you need jargon for, right? -- dab (𒁳) 15:22, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Discussion area for proposed merger of Entrepreneur to Entrepreneurship. Proposal date=August 1, 2013. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 18:55, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Not sure what policy you are citing here regarding the number of pictures in the article (as in its current state) is violating. Or is this just a personal feeling? Please be more specific before again removing content which has been a part of the article(s) for some time now. Thanks, GenQuest "Talk to Me" 21:15, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Re. recent revert: Please see Wikipedia:Image use policy section "User-created images", 1st paragraph. TMCk ( talk) 00:15, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Can it be that those pushing a certain POV on this article wished to supress it? The normal practice is that the talk page moves with the article. Lycurgus ( talk) 23:19, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, that it is not as you say is confirmed for example, here. Lycurgus ( talk) 05:23, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Re your recent edit of the Entrepreneurship page, copied below.
"(cur | prev) 03:31, 25 November 2014 IjonTichyIjonTichy (talk | contribs) . . (38,501 bytes) (-763) . . (→Recent developments: remove confusing, meaningless gibberish. This mumbo jumbo may be at best a niche, fringe idea and is not widely reported in the mainstream literature on entrepreneurship. Thanks.)"
I do not know how to start a talk page to discuss your edit. Could you do that? Entrepreneurship is a concept, which is far from stable, therefore, new inputs should be discussed. Also "Recent developments", which was the heading, is normally not widely reported. (Unsigned comment on 17:40, 25 November 2014 by User: Mdpienaar)
I guess the Google filters in your country and South-Africa work not the same. a Google search for "intequity jetems" in South-Africa shows the first researched paper with regard to intequity: jetems.scholarlinkresearch.com/articles/Management%20Accounting.pdf if you are interested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdpienaar ( talk • contribs) 18:42, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
I think you should say that one has to get very rich first so they can then be an entrepreneur. And also to get a job, any job anywhere. Pepper9798 ( talk) 22:06, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
How can a homeless, sick person become an entrepreneur? Pepper9798 ( talk) 00:33, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Woo hoo, one among millions. Pepper9798 ( talk) 00:10, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Ferdinand Lundberg said in his 1968 book, "The Rich and the Super-Rich", page 299, the small enterprise in the United States is, and always was, a highly risky affair, which have been steadily driven out of business. Most who remain in business do so on the thinnest of survival margins, constantly financed by short-term bank loans, the constant prey to recessions, regional strikes or even vagaries of the weather. A simple run of unseasonable weather regularly drives out of business hordes of hopeful operators of small resorts, hotels, stores and service enterprises. [Then on page 94) The American system, businesswise, is a record of steady, almost unrelieved failure. It has failure literally built into it. Big corporations of established equipment suppliers sell and resell the same equipment to a long string of losers incited into action by florid accounts of success by the Wall Street Journal, Fortune and other media. The best advice to Americans is "don't." Pepper9798 ( talk) 16:39, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
I noticed that this page has no "controversy" (dissent, drawbacks) section, which is probably one of the biggest global problems today (that the concept "you can become a rich and powerful individual" is so flattering that people now blindly accept anything associated with it as a "good".
Entrepreneurship is in fact one aspect of the neoliberal ideology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8A0:FE06:D001:5949:BD77:CD59:58B8 ( talk) 16:53, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
That Ferdinand Lundberg quote above, would be a good start for a drawbacks section. 162.205.217.211 ( talk) 18:23, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello all. I don't really have a solution to my concern here...and am a fairly new Wikipedia editor/contributor. However, as someone who does research in the field, the definition provided for entrepreneurship is deeply problematic and fundamentally incorrect ("Entrepreneurship is the process of starting a business, typically a startup company offering an innovative product, process or service"). The classic definition pulls more from the work of Schumpeter and is much more correctly conceptualized as 'venture formation' wherein the venture may or may not be or become a business. While Schumpeter is mentioned later it seems to be somewhat mis-characterized to support the presented POV on entrepreneurship rather than as the work that frames the whole discussion. I thought about editing just that section but I feel like the majority of the article flows from there and such a localized edit would largely change the tone and focus of the whole article. Thoughts? -- 128.211.169.1 ( talk) 14:58, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Can a short definition of serial entrepreneur be included in the body of the article? Thanks! Triplecaña ( talk) 12:56, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
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Instead of edit-warring, please discuss the disputed edit here. First of all, the edit misses basic bibliographic details - where was this study published (if at all)? Has it been reviewed? What is the author's expertise? I found a "Pearson MSc, PhD" via Google but his fields of expertise are robotics and engineering, not entrepeneurship or business topics in general. Secondly, most of the added paragraph violates WP:NPOV in its generalizing adulation of entrepeneurs. If the study has been written in the same uncritical PR speak, I strongly recommend to rewrite these parts. Lastly, aside from the questions about the source and the unencyclopedic biased language, Wikipedia is no venue to promote recent research (see also WP:CITESPAM) - such self-promotional edits are prohibited. GermanJoe ( talk) 07:14, 13 April 2018 (UTC)