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He initiated a programme of economic reform ...doesn't everybody "initiate a programme of economic reform" even a new pope? This entry is unusually opaque. Must be something there under the surface. Wetman 03:59, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
"In May 1934 Dollfuss proclaimed a new constitution modelled on that of Fascist Italy."
Was it? As far as I know, it was simply based on Catholic socio-political teaching, if anything.
"In order to install the so-called austro-fascist dictatorship,"
So-called by whom? No historian or political scientist that I know of, certainly. Vincent-D 23:50, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The following line in the article appears very much to be an anti-OeVP bit of information : It is rumoured that his portrait still hangs in the ÖVP headquarters. This is highly unlikely, as it would be of questionable legality under the current legal conditions in Austria. It seems to be, for the most part, included as an insult against the OeVP by implying that they are fascist. I shall refrain from removing it yet, if any one wants to disagree and debate this. If no one does, I'll remove the line in a few days, keeping it here on the talk page so that any one can discuss it and add it back later if they want. Beobach972 16:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
You're right. Without a good source, it can be looked on as POV slander against the Austrian People's Party. You definitely have a reason to remove it. Picaroon9288 23:32, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, in case you forgot, I'll do it. Picaroon9288 00:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
That´s no rumour, that´s a fact. Wich I should know because I´m from Austria and there are enough pictures in newspapers to prove it. Try this for a start http://no-racism.net/article/890/
Tomaschek Markus, Austria, 11 July 2006
Can we please shange his name to 'Dolfuß'? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 1950salvador ( talk • contribs) 05:22, 12 December 2006 (UTC).
So I will ask that the article on Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia be changed to ቀዳማዊ፡ኃይለ፡ሥላሴ. After all that was his real name, it was not in the latin alphabet. For the fonts see the article. Enlil Ninlil ( talk) 05:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
This article has zero citations. For someone who has learned about this in school but not researched it, it sounds pretty true. But thats not what wikipedia is about. There needs to be at least some unenthusiastic attempt to cite sources in the article. Also, there are two heights given for Dolfuß but also no citation. I think this article is in a sad state right now, but could be really accurate with some effort. -- DerRichter 16:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
The "Early Life" section has his height at 150 cm. The "Trivia" section has his height at 155 cm. 24.178.228.14 ( talk) 16:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I removed the most obvious POV statements, but there are many more things that have been added during the last months that are both uncited and are apparently wrong. Mostly somebody tried to distort history into the direction that Dollfuss wasn't a dictator and had "no choice" in eliminating democracy in Austria. Etc. Etc. The article is also in serious need of more citations and additional clean-up. Themanwithoutapast ( talk) 11:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was Move. — Wknight94 ( talk) 21:01, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Engelbert Dollfuß → Engelbert Dollfuss — I don't have a strong opinion either way, but this was moved recently without consensus and I'd like to establish the preferred title with more certainty. (For the record, from what I can tell, "Dollfuss" predominates in English-language sources.) — Biruitorul Talk 14:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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This move discussion could do with some more input, so I've asked a few other users to join in. Libary ( talk) 00:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
I think the trivia section (short stature) is very nice and informative and should not be deleted. Maybe the tag that is hanging there since 2007 should be taken down. -- CopperKettle 08:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
The article should be named Engelbert Dollfuß, and it should especially not make the impression there ever was an Austrian politician called Dollfuss. It does this currently in an - imo - unacceptable way: Funny that only the sources mention his actual name. -- Regression Tester ( talk) 15:20, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
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The article states: "Together with occasional allies like Arthur Seyss-Inquart, Robert Hohlbaum and Hermann Neubacher, he distinguished himself as a German nationalist and antisemite." This statement is not referenced. I am unable to find any statements by Dollfuss that are anti-Semitic, which is not to say there aren't any. Does anybody have a reference/evidence that this is true? I'm also not sure that he ever aligned himself with the German Nationalist movement. Is there any evidence of that? -- unsigned by User:Jafdip, 05:05, 27 January 2018
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He initiated a programme of economic reform ...doesn't everybody "initiate a programme of economic reform" even a new pope? This entry is unusually opaque. Must be something there under the surface. Wetman 03:59, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
"In May 1934 Dollfuss proclaimed a new constitution modelled on that of Fascist Italy."
Was it? As far as I know, it was simply based on Catholic socio-political teaching, if anything.
"In order to install the so-called austro-fascist dictatorship,"
So-called by whom? No historian or political scientist that I know of, certainly. Vincent-D 23:50, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The following line in the article appears very much to be an anti-OeVP bit of information : It is rumoured that his portrait still hangs in the ÖVP headquarters. This is highly unlikely, as it would be of questionable legality under the current legal conditions in Austria. It seems to be, for the most part, included as an insult against the OeVP by implying that they are fascist. I shall refrain from removing it yet, if any one wants to disagree and debate this. If no one does, I'll remove the line in a few days, keeping it here on the talk page so that any one can discuss it and add it back later if they want. Beobach972 16:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
You're right. Without a good source, it can be looked on as POV slander against the Austrian People's Party. You definitely have a reason to remove it. Picaroon9288 23:32, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, in case you forgot, I'll do it. Picaroon9288 00:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
That´s no rumour, that´s a fact. Wich I should know because I´m from Austria and there are enough pictures in newspapers to prove it. Try this for a start http://no-racism.net/article/890/
Tomaschek Markus, Austria, 11 July 2006
Can we please shange his name to 'Dolfuß'? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 1950salvador ( talk • contribs) 05:22, 12 December 2006 (UTC).
So I will ask that the article on Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia be changed to ቀዳማዊ፡ኃይለ፡ሥላሴ. After all that was his real name, it was not in the latin alphabet. For the fonts see the article. Enlil Ninlil ( talk) 05:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
This article has zero citations. For someone who has learned about this in school but not researched it, it sounds pretty true. But thats not what wikipedia is about. There needs to be at least some unenthusiastic attempt to cite sources in the article. Also, there are two heights given for Dolfuß but also no citation. I think this article is in a sad state right now, but could be really accurate with some effort. -- DerRichter 16:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
The "Early Life" section has his height at 150 cm. The "Trivia" section has his height at 155 cm. 24.178.228.14 ( talk) 16:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I removed the most obvious POV statements, but there are many more things that have been added during the last months that are both uncited and are apparently wrong. Mostly somebody tried to distort history into the direction that Dollfuss wasn't a dictator and had "no choice" in eliminating democracy in Austria. Etc. Etc. The article is also in serious need of more citations and additional clean-up. Themanwithoutapast ( talk) 11:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was Move. — Wknight94 ( talk) 21:01, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Engelbert Dollfuß → Engelbert Dollfuss — I don't have a strong opinion either way, but this was moved recently without consensus and I'd like to establish the preferred title with more certainty. (For the record, from what I can tell, "Dollfuss" predominates in English-language sources.) — Biruitorul Talk 14:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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This move discussion could do with some more input, so I've asked a few other users to join in. Libary ( talk) 00:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
I think the trivia section (short stature) is very nice and informative and should not be deleted. Maybe the tag that is hanging there since 2007 should be taken down. -- CopperKettle 08:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
The article should be named Engelbert Dollfuß, and it should especially not make the impression there ever was an Austrian politician called Dollfuss. It does this currently in an - imo - unacceptable way: Funny that only the sources mention his actual name. -- Regression Tester ( talk) 15:20, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
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The article states: "Together with occasional allies like Arthur Seyss-Inquart, Robert Hohlbaum and Hermann Neubacher, he distinguished himself as a German nationalist and antisemite." This statement is not referenced. I am unable to find any statements by Dollfuss that are anti-Semitic, which is not to say there aren't any. Does anybody have a reference/evidence that this is true? I'm also not sure that he ever aligned himself with the German Nationalist movement. Is there any evidence of that? -- unsigned by User:Jafdip, 05:05, 27 January 2018