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Why is most of this article about fandom speculation? john k 15:19, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It seems to me that it should be a single paragraph. Fandom speculation doesn't seem particularly encyclopedic, and should be covered briefly, if at all. I'd prefer for it to be in its own article than to be cluttering up this article, though. john k 17:09, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I have read that the wreckage hitting Endor is not the main factor in the devestation. Wouldn't the effects of one moon blowing up right next to another seriously affec the orbit of the other? -Josquius
I have read the novelization of Return of the Jedi, and it says that the moon's mother planet was destroyed years prior to the story. But I also noted that in the novelization, the moon was referred to as Endor. I think there's a problem there. Scorpionman 03:34, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
This is a huge misconception among Star Wars folks, and I'm going to move the pages around to reflect it unless someone rebuts me here.
"The forest moon of Endor" does NOT meen "Endor's forest moon." Rather, it means "Endor, which is a forest moon." This is borne out by the Ewoks movie, which is subtitled "The Battle for Endor."
Text of this article should go under something like "Endor (Star Wars)", the link on the Endor disambiguation page should be changed, and a section should be added about this confusion.
the Endor Holocaust page did not survive its latest VfD and has been deleted. The result was not merge, so attempts to merge its content into this article was not really appropriate. Plus now the Endor Holocaust section is longer than the rest of the page which is also not kosher. So, I am going to revert it back to the stub version that was here a week ago.-- Geedubber 17:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
The "Endor Holocaust" seems to only be fandom speculation, and, as such, that needs to be the very first thing mentioned about it. It should also be much shorter than it is now. john k 01:23, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
The article states, quite confidently, that the name Endor originates from J.R.R. Tolkien's work. But the name predates the Lord of the Rings due to its inclusion in the Bible. It's not far-fetched to think that Lucas used a Biblical reference, so I'm curious to know if what the article claims is a confirmed fact. -- Bacteria 13:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I wish writers would stop using the Bible for stuff, because it's old and over done now! Move on!!! Christabelle541 ( talk) 16:57, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Looks like we've got another disagreement over whether it's appropriate to mention the Endor Holocaust thing again. Scott 110, Wikipedia does contain information about "fanon" things, and other "non-official" subjects, provided there's sufficient external source to work from. See Jar Jar Binks#Fate for another example, which doesn't even have citations like this one does. This particular subject has also been obliquely addressed in "official" sources, if that's your only complaint with its inclusion. Bryan 02:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
It's been removed again, this time due to the references not being "reliable." Ironic, considering that the Endor Holocaust section was the only one that actually had citations. Anyway, I dispute the notion that those aren't reliable sources. They have been extensively referenced all over the Internet for many years, being printed on paper is not the be-all and end-all of reliability. In this case all they were really being used as a reference for is the statement that there was significant fan speculation on the subject, which they amply demonstrate merely with their existence. Bryan Derksen 00:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Since the infobox just got updated with a bunch of detailed numbers, I guess this is an opportune time to ask where these facts are actually coming from. The holocaust section is currently the only one that has any sources listed for it. Bryan 16:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
To reaffirm and buttress an earlier comment, the entire concept of "the forest moon of Endor" as put forth in the article is incorrect. The Star Wars databank clearly states that Endor is one moon of nine, all of which orbit a lifeless gas giant. This clearly ends any speculation within the fictional Star Wars universe regarding the topic. In addition, references are made to the Alliance using the moon as a post-Battle of Endor sortie base and most Ewoks returning to a "simpler life" - something which appears inconsistent with an Endor Holocaust. Jon SirH 03:00, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. - GTBacchus( talk) 20:27, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
The moon itself is referred to as Endor in the primary source material. Vader: "A small rebel force has landed on Endor". I have fixed the contrary assertion in the article and created a request to move the article to Endor (Star Wars) (which exists as a redirect to here) where it belongs. Ruyn ( talk) 19:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 16:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Also known as the sanctuary moon? Who had this great idea to include this denomination in the introduction of the article? sanctuary moon was only used by Palpatine in the sixth movie of the Star Wars saga... Endor was only called sanctuary moon by this single and unique character of the saga, it is not at all also known by that name, not at all. I'll change this immediately, but I'll mention the term sanctuary moon as a term used by Palpatine to designate this moon of Endor. 343KKT Kintaro ( talk) 03:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I removed this section due to it being non-canon. The jack-assery ends here. PS. I'm back. Scott 110 ( talk) 05:16, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
According to the article today, May 28, 2010, the filming location provided is Jedediah Smith Redwoods State Park. According to the following webpage, which provides reasonable references, the article is incorrect:
M. D. Vaden redwood information page for Return of Jedi Endor scene filming locations
Providing that resource and references are accurate, the article needs to be changed, to a location to the north for the main set. ThreeWikiteers ( talk) 02:01, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
The hyperlink for Cerea doesn't link to the fictional planet, instead it leads to the real life town in Italy named Cerea. As far as I know there is no page about the planet Cerea. 213.55.224.78 ( talk) 23:47, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
this page says that endor is the moon which is wrong. Although the moon is commonly called endor, the name actually applies to the planet.
I think this should be redirected to the forest moon of endor. Crylophosaurus ( talk) 01:36, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
is Moons are alprezzar fentakka gouuls haul makka kef bir (the ocean moon of endor) korkar sharls vix and endor (the forest Moon of endor) Shallom adepoju ( talk) 22:10, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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Why is most of this article about fandom speculation? john k 15:19, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It seems to me that it should be a single paragraph. Fandom speculation doesn't seem particularly encyclopedic, and should be covered briefly, if at all. I'd prefer for it to be in its own article than to be cluttering up this article, though. john k 17:09, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I have read that the wreckage hitting Endor is not the main factor in the devestation. Wouldn't the effects of one moon blowing up right next to another seriously affec the orbit of the other? -Josquius
I have read the novelization of Return of the Jedi, and it says that the moon's mother planet was destroyed years prior to the story. But I also noted that in the novelization, the moon was referred to as Endor. I think there's a problem there. Scorpionman 03:34, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
This is a huge misconception among Star Wars folks, and I'm going to move the pages around to reflect it unless someone rebuts me here.
"The forest moon of Endor" does NOT meen "Endor's forest moon." Rather, it means "Endor, which is a forest moon." This is borne out by the Ewoks movie, which is subtitled "The Battle for Endor."
Text of this article should go under something like "Endor (Star Wars)", the link on the Endor disambiguation page should be changed, and a section should be added about this confusion.
the Endor Holocaust page did not survive its latest VfD and has been deleted. The result was not merge, so attempts to merge its content into this article was not really appropriate. Plus now the Endor Holocaust section is longer than the rest of the page which is also not kosher. So, I am going to revert it back to the stub version that was here a week ago.-- Geedubber 17:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
The "Endor Holocaust" seems to only be fandom speculation, and, as such, that needs to be the very first thing mentioned about it. It should also be much shorter than it is now. john k 01:23, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
The article states, quite confidently, that the name Endor originates from J.R.R. Tolkien's work. But the name predates the Lord of the Rings due to its inclusion in the Bible. It's not far-fetched to think that Lucas used a Biblical reference, so I'm curious to know if what the article claims is a confirmed fact. -- Bacteria 13:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I wish writers would stop using the Bible for stuff, because it's old and over done now! Move on!!! Christabelle541 ( talk) 16:57, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Looks like we've got another disagreement over whether it's appropriate to mention the Endor Holocaust thing again. Scott 110, Wikipedia does contain information about "fanon" things, and other "non-official" subjects, provided there's sufficient external source to work from. See Jar Jar Binks#Fate for another example, which doesn't even have citations like this one does. This particular subject has also been obliquely addressed in "official" sources, if that's your only complaint with its inclusion. Bryan 02:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
It's been removed again, this time due to the references not being "reliable." Ironic, considering that the Endor Holocaust section was the only one that actually had citations. Anyway, I dispute the notion that those aren't reliable sources. They have been extensively referenced all over the Internet for many years, being printed on paper is not the be-all and end-all of reliability. In this case all they were really being used as a reference for is the statement that there was significant fan speculation on the subject, which they amply demonstrate merely with their existence. Bryan Derksen 00:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Since the infobox just got updated with a bunch of detailed numbers, I guess this is an opportune time to ask where these facts are actually coming from. The holocaust section is currently the only one that has any sources listed for it. Bryan 16:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
To reaffirm and buttress an earlier comment, the entire concept of "the forest moon of Endor" as put forth in the article is incorrect. The Star Wars databank clearly states that Endor is one moon of nine, all of which orbit a lifeless gas giant. This clearly ends any speculation within the fictional Star Wars universe regarding the topic. In addition, references are made to the Alliance using the moon as a post-Battle of Endor sortie base and most Ewoks returning to a "simpler life" - something which appears inconsistent with an Endor Holocaust. Jon SirH 03:00, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. - GTBacchus( talk) 20:27, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
The moon itself is referred to as Endor in the primary source material. Vader: "A small rebel force has landed on Endor". I have fixed the contrary assertion in the article and created a request to move the article to Endor (Star Wars) (which exists as a redirect to here) where it belongs. Ruyn ( talk) 19:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Image:PlanetEndor.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot ( talk) 16:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Also known as the sanctuary moon? Who had this great idea to include this denomination in the introduction of the article? sanctuary moon was only used by Palpatine in the sixth movie of the Star Wars saga... Endor was only called sanctuary moon by this single and unique character of the saga, it is not at all also known by that name, not at all. I'll change this immediately, but I'll mention the term sanctuary moon as a term used by Palpatine to designate this moon of Endor. 343KKT Kintaro ( talk) 03:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I removed this section due to it being non-canon. The jack-assery ends here. PS. I'm back. Scott 110 ( talk) 05:16, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
According to the article today, May 28, 2010, the filming location provided is Jedediah Smith Redwoods State Park. According to the following webpage, which provides reasonable references, the article is incorrect:
M. D. Vaden redwood information page for Return of Jedi Endor scene filming locations
Providing that resource and references are accurate, the article needs to be changed, to a location to the north for the main set. ThreeWikiteers ( talk) 02:01, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
The hyperlink for Cerea doesn't link to the fictional planet, instead it leads to the real life town in Italy named Cerea. As far as I know there is no page about the planet Cerea. 213.55.224.78 ( talk) 23:47, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
this page says that endor is the moon which is wrong. Although the moon is commonly called endor, the name actually applies to the planet.
I think this should be redirected to the forest moon of endor. Crylophosaurus ( talk) 01:36, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
is Moons are alprezzar fentakka gouuls haul makka kef bir (the ocean moon of endor) korkar sharls vix and endor (the forest Moon of endor) Shallom adepoju ( talk) 22:10, 1 July 2024 (UTC)