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I am an AP Biology student who is currently taking this article under my wing in the hopes that it will eventually reach Featured Article status. This article achieved GA status on Christmas Eve, I'm setting my sights on FA. I welcome and encourage all who visit to contribute/criticize, albeit constructively, as they see fit. If you see anything that you think should be changed than by all means let me know. I am completely open to suggestions and thankful for any help that might come from the Wikipedia community.
My end goal, as noted earlier, is to nominate and pass this article to Featured Article standing sometime in early March. While it will be a difficult road ahead, I hope those of you who took the time to read this will understand my undertaking and seek to help me expand and improve this article. Also, check out my user page to learn more about me or Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology 2008 for my AP Biology Class Goals/Project information. Cheers! -- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 17:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
-- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 23:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Graded -- JimmyButler ( talk) 21:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Looks like it's time to start this discussion. You're making some good progress. That's evident. Some advice - add your citations in properly formatted as soon as you can. Otherwise, it's a total pain in the rear to go back days or weeks later to find the right passage and hook up the appropriate citation.
It doesn't really matter what kind of citation style you use, but it has to be consistent. Citation templates are good for beginners - you can just plug in the right information. The templates aren't necessary, just helpful. At GA, you'll be expected to have properly formatted citations: authors, dates, publishers, etc.
Another thing I've learned by experience: start keeping tabs on where you found stuff. You'll be asked in peer reviews, GA reviews, and at FAC to clarify something. I can't count the number of times I read something and put it aside in my mind for later, then went back to the 10 sources or so I had and was completely unable to find it again. That drives me nuts. I've even started to keep files of the articles I've written. If you stick with the article after your class and it makes it to FA, and it appears on the main page, you'll get asked about sources again.
Let me know if you have questions. -- Moni3 ( talk) 02:15, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Yea... a reputable reference in an acceptable format... I wish you were at the beginning of the alphabet!-- JimmyButler ( talk) 19:27, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know the correct way to refernce an online book? As you can see from my reference list on the article, the same books are appearing for the different parts of the endomembrane system. I don't think it would be suffice to just reference the book once, because then you would lose all of the url's associated with the different sections of the book. I'd like to keep the links to the different sections, because as an article on an online encylcopedia connectivity is crucial. -- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 22:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
I strongly recommend running your additions to this article through Microsoft Word and do a spell check. Nothing discredits an article like having your teacher correct spelling errors involving "standard" English words. If you activate the supplemental programs as suggested in class; the typo's will appear underlined in red. Remember you are writing a formal document with a world-wide audience; there is no tolerance for spelling errors. -- JimmyButler ( talk) 21:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
A major leap forward in content. If you do not wait to the last minute to address your peer review concerns; there is hope for GA before the grading period is over. Best of Luck!!!-- JimmyButler ( talk) 18:27, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
For some reason reference 21 is not repeated in the paragraph that follows it. Instead there is a separate reference number (22) for a reference that is the exact same. Please help if you have the knowledge to do so. -- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 03:45, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
A thorough copyedit by a keen eye would be nice to have before the GA review. -- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 04:06, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I am not quite sure about this but you have used the the citations 12 and 14 together, one right after the other (eight times in a row) and I believe this to be redundant and unneccesary. I feel that you should either get more citations to fill in these spots or just cite 12/14 at the end of the the entire unit (no–not each paragraph, the entire unit). -- Cooldrummer ( talk) 19:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-- Criticism101 ( talk) 19:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-- Cooldrummer ( talk) 01:25, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I personally believe that this article needs more work for the spitzenkorper section because I do not fully understand what it is maybe some media or a better explanation would work. -- AwesomeOpossuminthelake ( talk) 19:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-- Criticism101 ( talk) 02:43, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
-- AwesomeOpossuminthelake ( talk) 04:00, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Any suggestions on what needs to be done for FA status? Is the article written well engough to satisfy featured article standards? Where should content be expanded? I tried to include as much information as I could find, but I may be able to find more if completely neccessary. The content exceeds the encyclopedia entries I have had the chance to read. -- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 22:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
To a large extent this article comprises a set of introductions to some organelles where a membrane is an important constituent. The article includes little description of the system. How do these organelles function together? What is the reason that these organelles are considered an entity together that is worthy of its own Wikipedia article? Ribosomes function in close cooperation with ER when producing certain proteins. Why are the ribosomes not considered constituents of the system? Why are neither mitochondria, flagella nor cilia discussed? I am not suggesting that they should be, just that the article should make it obvious that they are not part of the system. Here and there, the article does describe cooperation between organelles. But it does not seem to focus on the system, although it purports to be about a system. -- Ettrig ( talk) 16:50, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
The first proposal of the "endomembrane system" was in this book chapter
MORRE, D. J. & MOLLENHAUER, H. H. (1974). The endomembrane concept: a functional integration of endoplasmic reticulum and Golgi apparatus. In Dynamic Aspects of Plant infrastructure (ed. A. W. Robards), pp. 84-137. London, New York, etc.: McGraw-Hill.
This book section link gives a good overview of the concept. Tim Vickers ( talk) 23:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
This article may be beneficial, Organization of the Endomembrane System. Is there anyway to get free access to the pdf?
By the way, would you mind emailing me the pdf for this article. If you click here you should be able to email me. -- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 22:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
The article specifically excludes peroxisomes from the endomembrane system, but the peroxisome article states that they are derived from the endoplasmic reticulum. For what reason/by what criterion are peroxisomes excluded from the endomembrane system if they are derived from a portion of it? -- Khajidha ( talk) 19:06, 31 May 2011 (UTC) I have looked up several references and apparently peroxisomes are not part of the endomembrane system as they do not originate from its structure. Also, they have proteins added from the cytosol. I think this needs to be edited, but I am not an expert on this topic. Paigemiller1 ( talk) 18:20, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Glycogen hydrolysis does not require "glucose phosphate" as the article states. Glycogen hydrolysis requires glycogen, phosphate, and the enzyme glycogen phosphorylase; glucose-1-phosphate is the product of that reaction. Glucose-1-phosphate is then turned into glucose-6-phosphate by the enzyme phosphoglucomutase. Glucose-6-phosphatase, present mostly in the liver, then can remove the phosphate from glucose-6-phosphate, forming glucose and phosphate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.90.155.218 ( talk) 05:14, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Endomembrane system/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Changed rating to top as this is an overview of important cell organelles (Golgi, ER, vacuoles etc.) and mechanisms (endo- and exocytosis) that are high school/SAT biology content. - tameeria 21:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 21:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 14:29, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Frog 2409:4073:313:641:2CDF:4B55:142:DBB5 ( talk) 15:01, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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Current status: Good article |
![]() | This ![]() It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||
|
![]() | This article was intensively edited as a Fall 2008 / Spring 2009
educational assignment:
WikiProject AP Biology 2008. We invite you to join us to make further improvements and changes. We are not claiming any sort of ownership. This is a project in collaboration. |
I am an AP Biology student who is currently taking this article under my wing in the hopes that it will eventually reach Featured Article status. This article achieved GA status on Christmas Eve, I'm setting my sights on FA. I welcome and encourage all who visit to contribute/criticize, albeit constructively, as they see fit. If you see anything that you think should be changed than by all means let me know. I am completely open to suggestions and thankful for any help that might come from the Wikipedia community.
My end goal, as noted earlier, is to nominate and pass this article to Featured Article standing sometime in early March. While it will be a difficult road ahead, I hope those of you who took the time to read this will understand my undertaking and seek to help me expand and improve this article. Also, check out my user page to learn more about me or Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology 2008 for my AP Biology Class Goals/Project information. Cheers! -- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 17:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
-- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 23:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Graded -- JimmyButler ( talk) 21:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Looks like it's time to start this discussion. You're making some good progress. That's evident. Some advice - add your citations in properly formatted as soon as you can. Otherwise, it's a total pain in the rear to go back days or weeks later to find the right passage and hook up the appropriate citation.
It doesn't really matter what kind of citation style you use, but it has to be consistent. Citation templates are good for beginners - you can just plug in the right information. The templates aren't necessary, just helpful. At GA, you'll be expected to have properly formatted citations: authors, dates, publishers, etc.
Another thing I've learned by experience: start keeping tabs on where you found stuff. You'll be asked in peer reviews, GA reviews, and at FAC to clarify something. I can't count the number of times I read something and put it aside in my mind for later, then went back to the 10 sources or so I had and was completely unable to find it again. That drives me nuts. I've even started to keep files of the articles I've written. If you stick with the article after your class and it makes it to FA, and it appears on the main page, you'll get asked about sources again.
Let me know if you have questions. -- Moni3 ( talk) 02:15, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Yea... a reputable reference in an acceptable format... I wish you were at the beginning of the alphabet!-- JimmyButler ( talk) 19:27, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know the correct way to refernce an online book? As you can see from my reference list on the article, the same books are appearing for the different parts of the endomembrane system. I don't think it would be suffice to just reference the book once, because then you would lose all of the url's associated with the different sections of the book. I'd like to keep the links to the different sections, because as an article on an online encylcopedia connectivity is crucial. -- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 22:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
I strongly recommend running your additions to this article through Microsoft Word and do a spell check. Nothing discredits an article like having your teacher correct spelling errors involving "standard" English words. If you activate the supplemental programs as suggested in class; the typo's will appear underlined in red. Remember you are writing a formal document with a world-wide audience; there is no tolerance for spelling errors. -- JimmyButler ( talk) 21:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
A major leap forward in content. If you do not wait to the last minute to address your peer review concerns; there is hope for GA before the grading period is over. Best of Luck!!!-- JimmyButler ( talk) 18:27, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
For some reason reference 21 is not repeated in the paragraph that follows it. Instead there is a separate reference number (22) for a reference that is the exact same. Please help if you have the knowledge to do so. -- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 03:45, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
A thorough copyedit by a keen eye would be nice to have before the GA review. -- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 04:06, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I am not quite sure about this but you have used the the citations 12 and 14 together, one right after the other (eight times in a row) and I believe this to be redundant and unneccesary. I feel that you should either get more citations to fill in these spots or just cite 12/14 at the end of the the entire unit (no–not each paragraph, the entire unit). -- Cooldrummer ( talk) 19:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-- Criticism101 ( talk) 19:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-- Cooldrummer ( talk) 01:25, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I personally believe that this article needs more work for the spitzenkorper section because I do not fully understand what it is maybe some media or a better explanation would work. -- AwesomeOpossuminthelake ( talk) 19:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
-- Criticism101 ( talk) 02:43, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
-- AwesomeOpossuminthelake ( talk) 04:00, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Any suggestions on what needs to be done for FA status? Is the article written well engough to satisfy featured article standards? Where should content be expanded? I tried to include as much information as I could find, but I may be able to find more if completely neccessary. The content exceeds the encyclopedia entries I have had the chance to read. -- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 22:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
To a large extent this article comprises a set of introductions to some organelles where a membrane is an important constituent. The article includes little description of the system. How do these organelles function together? What is the reason that these organelles are considered an entity together that is worthy of its own Wikipedia article? Ribosomes function in close cooperation with ER when producing certain proteins. Why are the ribosomes not considered constituents of the system? Why are neither mitochondria, flagella nor cilia discussed? I am not suggesting that they should be, just that the article should make it obvious that they are not part of the system. Here and there, the article does describe cooperation between organelles. But it does not seem to focus on the system, although it purports to be about a system. -- Ettrig ( talk) 16:50, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
The first proposal of the "endomembrane system" was in this book chapter
MORRE, D. J. & MOLLENHAUER, H. H. (1974). The endomembrane concept: a functional integration of endoplasmic reticulum and Golgi apparatus. In Dynamic Aspects of Plant infrastructure (ed. A. W. Robards), pp. 84-137. London, New York, etc.: McGraw-Hill.
This book section link gives a good overview of the concept. Tim Vickers ( talk) 23:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
This article may be beneficial, Organization of the Endomembrane System. Is there anyway to get free access to the pdf?
By the way, would you mind emailing me the pdf for this article. If you click here you should be able to email me. -- VivaLaLacy ( talk) 22:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
The article specifically excludes peroxisomes from the endomembrane system, but the peroxisome article states that they are derived from the endoplasmic reticulum. For what reason/by what criterion are peroxisomes excluded from the endomembrane system if they are derived from a portion of it? -- Khajidha ( talk) 19:06, 31 May 2011 (UTC) I have looked up several references and apparently peroxisomes are not part of the endomembrane system as they do not originate from its structure. Also, they have proteins added from the cytosol. I think this needs to be edited, but I am not an expert on this topic. Paigemiller1 ( talk) 18:20, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Glycogen hydrolysis does not require "glucose phosphate" as the article states. Glycogen hydrolysis requires glycogen, phosphate, and the enzyme glycogen phosphorylase; glucose-1-phosphate is the product of that reaction. Glucose-1-phosphate is then turned into glucose-6-phosphate by the enzyme phosphoglucomutase. Glucose-6-phosphatase, present mostly in the liver, then can remove the phosphate from glucose-6-phosphate, forming glucose and phosphate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.90.155.218 ( talk) 05:14, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Endomembrane system/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Changed rating to top as this is an overview of important cell organelles (Golgi, ER, vacuoles etc.) and mechanisms (endo- and exocytosis) that are high school/SAT biology content. - tameeria 21:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 21:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 14:29, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Frog 2409:4073:313:641:2CDF:4B55:142:DBB5 ( talk) 15:01, 20 December 2021 (UTC)