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In re: this edit, it may have been hasty to delete that cited section. It's a commonly cited book, and the writing style is not relevant to the cited claim. If it sounded too POV in the article, then rewrite the claim or its attribution. Orcas and whales - are they "indegenous" land mammals to Great Britain? No, they're not, and there's no claim of greatness over them, so I'd like to know a bit more about your reaction to the claim and cite. Note that I didn't put it in, but I am an interested editor. Also, have Jardine's technical observations somehow been discredited, aside from his sometimes breathless prose and assertion of the majesty of the beast? If that one's totally unacceptable, there's this book from 1854 of admittedly scientific and popular observations, which also waxed poetic for a moment before getting down to tacks. I'm really on the side of sources, no matter their age - that's what we do: cite sources.-- Lexein ( talk) 08:38, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Is this significant? The League own less than 1.2% of the park (if the animal were to wander randomly, there would be a 1 in 85 chance that it finds itself on their land), but any land where the landowner has not given permission is, legally, equally protected. LCS land is presumably a small proportion of this. The relevant issue is whether the landowner of the site where the animal was killed had given permission: is this known? Kevin McE ( talk) 08:51, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
This creature was discovered to have died on October 25th so can't possibly have died on October 26th! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.153.212.4 ( talk) 12:14, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Having the quote referring to stalking as "persecution", without a countering viewpoint, makes the article POV, IMHO. - The Bushranger Return fire Flank speed 00:50, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
News of this animal's (reported) death reached across the United States -- at the least. That would seem to make this animal "notable."
Naming it the "Emperor of Exmoor" would also make it "notable." Would anyone go to the trouble of naming an animal that was not deemed "notable" in some way?
Did previous news stories in the UK -- in 2009 or whenever -- identify this animal as the largest or best representitive of its species? That would seem to make it "notable" regardless of whether or not it was indeed the largest and or "best" representitive of its species (And however "best" would be defined).
If it had been identified in the press as the largest/best representitive of its species it would not only seem be "notable," but, human nature being what it so often is, such reports would also tend to increase the likelihood that someone would want to kill it for that very reason.
I vote for "notable" and leave it to the rest of you to debate the moral issues involved in killing him. ( 71.22.47.232 ( talk) 21:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC))
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In re: this edit, it may have been hasty to delete that cited section. It's a commonly cited book, and the writing style is not relevant to the cited claim. If it sounded too POV in the article, then rewrite the claim or its attribution. Orcas and whales - are they "indegenous" land mammals to Great Britain? No, they're not, and there's no claim of greatness over them, so I'd like to know a bit more about your reaction to the claim and cite. Note that I didn't put it in, but I am an interested editor. Also, have Jardine's technical observations somehow been discredited, aside from his sometimes breathless prose and assertion of the majesty of the beast? If that one's totally unacceptable, there's this book from 1854 of admittedly scientific and popular observations, which also waxed poetic for a moment before getting down to tacks. I'm really on the side of sources, no matter their age - that's what we do: cite sources.-- Lexein ( talk) 08:38, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Is this significant? The League own less than 1.2% of the park (if the animal were to wander randomly, there would be a 1 in 85 chance that it finds itself on their land), but any land where the landowner has not given permission is, legally, equally protected. LCS land is presumably a small proportion of this. The relevant issue is whether the landowner of the site where the animal was killed had given permission: is this known? Kevin McE ( talk) 08:51, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
This creature was discovered to have died on October 25th so can't possibly have died on October 26th! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.153.212.4 ( talk) 12:14, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Having the quote referring to stalking as "persecution", without a countering viewpoint, makes the article POV, IMHO. - The Bushranger Return fire Flank speed 00:50, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
News of this animal's (reported) death reached across the United States -- at the least. That would seem to make this animal "notable."
Naming it the "Emperor of Exmoor" would also make it "notable." Would anyone go to the trouble of naming an animal that was not deemed "notable" in some way?
Did previous news stories in the UK -- in 2009 or whenever -- identify this animal as the largest or best representitive of its species? That would seem to make it "notable" regardless of whether or not it was indeed the largest and or "best" representitive of its species (And however "best" would be defined).
If it had been identified in the press as the largest/best representitive of its species it would not only seem be "notable," but, human nature being what it so often is, such reports would also tend to increase the likelihood that someone would want to kill it for that very reason.
I vote for "notable" and leave it to the rest of you to debate the moral issues involved in killing him. ( 71.22.47.232 ( talk) 21:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC))
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