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The emirates currently forming the UAE were at one time - up until 1891 - part of the second Saudi State? This is an extraordinary claim made on the basis of no citation and which is clearly disproved by a large bulk of well known and documented history. The rulers of what became known as the 'Trucial Coast' - Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah and Ras Al Khaimah, Ajman, Umm Al Qawain and Fujeirah were regarded as sovereign by the British, the dominant power in the region at the time, and were signatories to treaties (ie: recognised as being in a position of authority to make treaties rather than as being Saudi vassals) with the British in 1820, 1843, 1853 and in 1892. In fact, Saudi invaders were driven from Buraimi in 1870 by the then ruler of Abu Dhabi, Sheikh Zayed bin Khalifa Al Nahyan. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 04:57, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
It was known that the second Saudi State was an internal state that located in Nejd . I dont agree its part of all these countries. A M M A R 16:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Searching "Second Saudi State" or clicking on a link saying "Second Saudi State" automatically redirects me to the article on the Emirate of Nejd and Hasa (1902-1921), which was the third Saudi State. To add to my confusion, when I click the link for that article's discussion page, I'm automatically redirected to this discussion page, on the Emirate of Nejd (1818-1891), the actual third Saudi state. What's more, when I search "Third Saudi State" I'm redirected to the article on the current Saudi state, which is, as I understand it, the sixth incarnation of a Saudi state. Could someone who knows how please fix this? 216.40.146.90 ( talk) 09:52, 20 December 2011 (UTC)Frank
For quite a while I have noticed a change of the second Saudi states flag but I don't know why this happened. please explain to me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:900B:112:9C00:C47E:71BD:FD87:7A06 ( talk) 02:55, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
@ Lusanaherandraton: The "second saudi state flag" is mislabeled. The green with moon flag was used by Diriyah before Egyptian occupation and was used again after, from independence from Egypt until it was fully absorbed by Jabal Shammar in 1891. The flag "second saudi state flag" should be called "third saudi state flag" and was adopted by Nejd & Hasa after independence from Jabal Shammar in 1902 -- Havsjö ( talk) 08:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
The proper way to say such a name is Najd, as per Najdi Arabic as well.
Both ways are correct in the English language, although to make it right 2/2 is by using the Arabic and native way of saying such a place. “Najd” is the proper pronunciation.
Please change it to this spelling, or allow a discussion to be had so that I can take part in to reach a final conclusion. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 00:22, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
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The emirates currently forming the UAE were at one time - up until 1891 - part of the second Saudi State? This is an extraordinary claim made on the basis of no citation and which is clearly disproved by a large bulk of well known and documented history. The rulers of what became known as the 'Trucial Coast' - Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah and Ras Al Khaimah, Ajman, Umm Al Qawain and Fujeirah were regarded as sovereign by the British, the dominant power in the region at the time, and were signatories to treaties (ie: recognised as being in a position of authority to make treaties rather than as being Saudi vassals) with the British in 1820, 1843, 1853 and in 1892. In fact, Saudi invaders were driven from Buraimi in 1870 by the then ruler of Abu Dhabi, Sheikh Zayed bin Khalifa Al Nahyan. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 04:57, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
It was known that the second Saudi State was an internal state that located in Nejd . I dont agree its part of all these countries. A M M A R 16:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Searching "Second Saudi State" or clicking on a link saying "Second Saudi State" automatically redirects me to the article on the Emirate of Nejd and Hasa (1902-1921), which was the third Saudi State. To add to my confusion, when I click the link for that article's discussion page, I'm automatically redirected to this discussion page, on the Emirate of Nejd (1818-1891), the actual third Saudi state. What's more, when I search "Third Saudi State" I'm redirected to the article on the current Saudi state, which is, as I understand it, the sixth incarnation of a Saudi state. Could someone who knows how please fix this? 216.40.146.90 ( talk) 09:52, 20 December 2011 (UTC)Frank
For quite a while I have noticed a change of the second Saudi states flag but I don't know why this happened. please explain to me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:900B:112:9C00:C47E:71BD:FD87:7A06 ( talk) 02:55, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
@ Lusanaherandraton: The "second saudi state flag" is mislabeled. The green with moon flag was used by Diriyah before Egyptian occupation and was used again after, from independence from Egypt until it was fully absorbed by Jabal Shammar in 1891. The flag "second saudi state flag" should be called "third saudi state flag" and was adopted by Nejd & Hasa after independence from Jabal Shammar in 1902 -- Havsjö ( talk) 08:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
The proper way to say such a name is Najd, as per Najdi Arabic as well.
Both ways are correct in the English language, although to make it right 2/2 is by using the Arabic and native way of saying such a place. “Najd” is the proper pronunciation.
Please change it to this spelling, or allow a discussion to be had so that I can take part in to reach a final conclusion. WatanWatan2020 ( talk) 00:22, 13 January 2021 (UTC)