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Created by Js229 ( talk) and Britishfinance ( talk). Nominated by Britishfinance ( talk) at 01:43, 7 January 2020 (UTC).
This sentence needs some work: "...a speech and drama teacher at various women-only colleges, including Simmons University (1916–1921), Milwaukee-Downer College (1921–1928), Scripps College (1932–1934),[3][6] Smith College (1936–1942), Phillips Academy (1950s), and at the Abbot Academy (late 1950s).[2][1][3][6]"
Per Wikipedia's own (linked) page on Phillips, Phillips Academy is neither a college (it's a high-school) nor women-only. In fact, when Hale taught there (50s), it was all boys. It became co-educational in 1973. I'll take a stab at editing it, hopefully without making the sentence too convoluted. LeftyAce ( talk) 05:15, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Oulfis ( talk · contribs) 06:54, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
I'd like to take this on as my first GA review! I will work my way through the following checklist as I am able.
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
Comment: Oulfis, just checking in since it's been a month since your last edit here. Thanks, -- Usernameunique ( talk) 07:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
As Oulfis has edited on two different days after the above ping and has note responded, I think we have to consider this review abandoned, since it hasn't been edited since the day it was opened a month and a half ago. Pinging Kingsif, to see whether they would be willing to take over the abandoned review. Thanks. BlueMoonset ( talk) 22:20, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Happy to take over @ BlueMoonset:. Also pinging @ Britishfinance: so they're aware.
The article is generally great, well-written. I notice that Oulfis also left a comment at the talkpage about the 'narrative' of the article. I think I agree; this is a style concern, not a coverage one. While I expect more coverage will come, this is what there is for now and that's acceptable. Reading the Relationship and Letter archive sections, it is not Hale-centric, it reads more like a story in the life of Eliot, so perhaps these parts can be tweaked. The rest of the style looks fine.
Sources are strong, but there are some statements missing an inline citation - I'm sure you can find them without a template, so I haven't added them - though sources support them. I also think the two sources with an Amazon url as the main url should have this converted to ASIN, instead, as the main url usually links to where the whole book can be read.
There doesn't appear to be any copyvio, though a check shows that there is perhaps too heavy quoting from some sources. If this could be cut back, it would be better.
Infobox is useful, image meets requirements. No other illustration needed. The talk page and history suggest this article is nice and stable.
on hold - perhaps some tweaking, some inline citations to be added, otherwise strong. Kingsif ( talk) 22:35, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Overall this is a fascinating and excellent article, but as I re-read it, it feels more like a an article about the letter archive than about Hale herself. Since this is the main way she is notable, it makes sense for the letters to make up most of the article, but the "narrative arc" could still centre on her. I think adding a section on "Later life and death" before the letter archive, and something about her literary afterlife (like her presence in Eliot biographies, and the novel inspired by her) as the last section, would help prevent Eliot from 'taking over' the article. I've done some preliminary searching so I may make these changes myself (after I've had a good night's sleep, since I'm currently wiki-ing into the wee hours irresponsibly....), but I make the suggestion in case others also want to think about this aspect of the article. ~ oulfis 🌸( talk) 07:20, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
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fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
January 20, 2020. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that
T. S. Eliot defended himself from the grave after 1,131 of his letters to
Emily Hale (pictured) were released in January 2020, stating that he "never at any time had sexual relations" with her? | ||||||||||
A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the " On this day..." column on October 12, 2023. |
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The result was: promoted by
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22:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Created by Js229 ( talk) and Britishfinance ( talk). Nominated by Britishfinance ( talk) at 01:43, 7 January 2020 (UTC).
This sentence needs some work: "...a speech and drama teacher at various women-only colleges, including Simmons University (1916–1921), Milwaukee-Downer College (1921–1928), Scripps College (1932–1934),[3][6] Smith College (1936–1942), Phillips Academy (1950s), and at the Abbot Academy (late 1950s).[2][1][3][6]"
Per Wikipedia's own (linked) page on Phillips, Phillips Academy is neither a college (it's a high-school) nor women-only. In fact, when Hale taught there (50s), it was all boys. It became co-educational in 1973. I'll take a stab at editing it, hopefully without making the sentence too convoluted. LeftyAce ( talk) 05:15, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Oulfis ( talk · contribs) 06:54, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
I'd like to take this on as my first GA review! I will work my way through the following checklist as I am able.
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
Comment: Oulfis, just checking in since it's been a month since your last edit here. Thanks, -- Usernameunique ( talk) 07:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
As Oulfis has edited on two different days after the above ping and has note responded, I think we have to consider this review abandoned, since it hasn't been edited since the day it was opened a month and a half ago. Pinging Kingsif, to see whether they would be willing to take over the abandoned review. Thanks. BlueMoonset ( talk) 22:20, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Happy to take over @ BlueMoonset:. Also pinging @ Britishfinance: so they're aware.
The article is generally great, well-written. I notice that Oulfis also left a comment at the talkpage about the 'narrative' of the article. I think I agree; this is a style concern, not a coverage one. While I expect more coverage will come, this is what there is for now and that's acceptable. Reading the Relationship and Letter archive sections, it is not Hale-centric, it reads more like a story in the life of Eliot, so perhaps these parts can be tweaked. The rest of the style looks fine.
Sources are strong, but there are some statements missing an inline citation - I'm sure you can find them without a template, so I haven't added them - though sources support them. I also think the two sources with an Amazon url as the main url should have this converted to ASIN, instead, as the main url usually links to where the whole book can be read.
There doesn't appear to be any copyvio, though a check shows that there is perhaps too heavy quoting from some sources. If this could be cut back, it would be better.
Infobox is useful, image meets requirements. No other illustration needed. The talk page and history suggest this article is nice and stable.
on hold - perhaps some tweaking, some inline citations to be added, otherwise strong. Kingsif ( talk) 22:35, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Overall this is a fascinating and excellent article, but as I re-read it, it feels more like a an article about the letter archive than about Hale herself. Since this is the main way she is notable, it makes sense for the letters to make up most of the article, but the "narrative arc" could still centre on her. I think adding a section on "Later life and death" before the letter archive, and something about her literary afterlife (like her presence in Eliot biographies, and the novel inspired by her) as the last section, would help prevent Eliot from 'taking over' the article. I've done some preliminary searching so I may make these changes myself (after I've had a good night's sleep, since I'm currently wiki-ing into the wee hours irresponsibly....), but I make the suggestion in case others also want to think about this aspect of the article. ~ oulfis 🌸( talk) 07:20, 15 March 2020 (UTC)