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It looks like there have been a few reverts, especially today, regarding her nationality in the opening sentence. According to
MOS:OPENPARABIO, it states that the opening paragraph should include Context (location or nationality)
. I think British is best to use in the lead however I would like to get other editor's opinions. --
LuK3
(Talk) 20:43, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
There seems to be a rather sad problem with classifying people from the UK as exclusively British when they're from England and exclusively Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish/Irish when they're from these regions. Standard term for all people from the UK should just be British (which is the official, non-controversial descriptor of their nationality) unless it is blatantly clear they do not identify with a British nationality/identity and exclusively identify as some other regional identity. This is really a ridiculous issue. And what's even more ridiculous is people going back in time and attributing a 'Scottish' identity to people like David Hume or a Welsh identity to Henry Morgan Stanley. It's an insidious rewriting of history and it's impressing an identity on people they almost certainly had no attachment to, and in many cases (such as Hume) they were probably actively hostile to and against.
If you're just labelling anyone from what we NOW consider to be Wales or Scotland (because historically Scotland only applied to lands north of the Forth and Clyde until the late Middle Ages, and I'm not sure Welsh lands were ever clearly defined historically beyond being fluctuating areas where people spoke Welsh) as Welsh or Scottish then it's nothing other than a regional descriptor, and you may as well list them as British (from the British Isles) or European or Eurasian or as being from Earth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.170.40.71 ( talk) 08:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Bit of a non-subject this really. She was born in England to English parents. As most UK celebrities are listed as their country of origin rather than as ‘British’, we would be changing every biography’s lead if this is such a massive issue Scf1985 ( talk) 11:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Well, by that logic, you’ll be changing the lead from ‘English’ to ‘British’ on around 98% well-known English-born actors’ biographies then. If someone was petty enough to change her to British, she’d only be changed back to English within a few days anyway, as I’ve seen with other actors bios. Good luck Scf1985 ( talk) 01:26, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Which image is more suitable for the infobox?
-- Krimuk2.0 ( talk) 15:01, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
I found a few other images on Commons that seem to be an improvement of the current image in terms of lighting and shadows. -- LuK3 (Talk) 19:43, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
Would either this or this be more suitable? If so, I'll make them available for Commons. Krimuk2.0 ( talk) 07:28, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
It looks like it is split between the latter B proposal and the current image. Would anybody be opposed to a RFC regarding this? -- LuK3 (Talk) 17:35, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
But my original preference has always been for the Vogue photo which is admittedly maybe too "sexy" to some. ⌚️ ( talk) 22:10, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
I Mertex I changed the image to File:Emilia Clarke Dior Rose des Vents.jpg. This seems fine. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 07:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Hmm, I tracked down CC content of Emilia without checking the talk page, stumbled upon the same Dior shoot mentioned above, and screencapped it. Then I corrected and uploaded it to Commons... Finally I went to the talk page to propose it, but I found out someone else had the same thought process as me. I'm a bit of an idiot. Anyway, here's the image:
Achtungpanzer44 ( talk) 03:50, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Is it possible to replace the current 2013 picture with this new Dior Rose des Vents image? Its more recent (2015), and seems to be a good representation of what she looks like. Leewills ( talk) 18:45, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Can the 2018 infobox photo be the one at the 2018 Cannes Film Festival, please? 2A02:1210:6C61:6E00:AD62:63A1:1243:23AE ( talk) 13:25, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Personally, I think it's high time we changed her picture to something recent and more flattering, like this one: Emilia Clarke at the 2023 Harper's Bazaar Women of the Year Awards.jpg. DemisLittleWarrior ( talk) 15:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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It looks like there have been a few reverts, especially today, regarding her nationality in the opening sentence. According to
MOS:OPENPARABIO, it states that the opening paragraph should include Context (location or nationality)
. I think British is best to use in the lead however I would like to get other editor's opinions. --
LuK3
(Talk) 20:43, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
There seems to be a rather sad problem with classifying people from the UK as exclusively British when they're from England and exclusively Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish/Irish when they're from these regions. Standard term for all people from the UK should just be British (which is the official, non-controversial descriptor of their nationality) unless it is blatantly clear they do not identify with a British nationality/identity and exclusively identify as some other regional identity. This is really a ridiculous issue. And what's even more ridiculous is people going back in time and attributing a 'Scottish' identity to people like David Hume or a Welsh identity to Henry Morgan Stanley. It's an insidious rewriting of history and it's impressing an identity on people they almost certainly had no attachment to, and in many cases (such as Hume) they were probably actively hostile to and against.
If you're just labelling anyone from what we NOW consider to be Wales or Scotland (because historically Scotland only applied to lands north of the Forth and Clyde until the late Middle Ages, and I'm not sure Welsh lands were ever clearly defined historically beyond being fluctuating areas where people spoke Welsh) as Welsh or Scottish then it's nothing other than a regional descriptor, and you may as well list them as British (from the British Isles) or European or Eurasian or as being from Earth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.170.40.71 ( talk) 08:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Bit of a non-subject this really. She was born in England to English parents. As most UK celebrities are listed as their country of origin rather than as ‘British’, we would be changing every biography’s lead if this is such a massive issue Scf1985 ( talk) 11:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Well, by that logic, you’ll be changing the lead from ‘English’ to ‘British’ on around 98% well-known English-born actors’ biographies then. If someone was petty enough to change her to British, she’d only be changed back to English within a few days anyway, as I’ve seen with other actors bios. Good luck Scf1985 ( talk) 01:26, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Which image is more suitable for the infobox?
-- Krimuk2.0 ( talk) 15:01, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
I found a few other images on Commons that seem to be an improvement of the current image in terms of lighting and shadows. -- LuK3 (Talk) 19:43, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
Would either this or this be more suitable? If so, I'll make them available for Commons. Krimuk2.0 ( talk) 07:28, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
It looks like it is split between the latter B proposal and the current image. Would anybody be opposed to a RFC regarding this? -- LuK3 (Talk) 17:35, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
But my original preference has always been for the Vogue photo which is admittedly maybe too "sexy" to some. ⌚️ ( talk) 22:10, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
I Mertex I changed the image to File:Emilia Clarke Dior Rose des Vents.jpg. This seems fine. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 07:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Hmm, I tracked down CC content of Emilia without checking the talk page, stumbled upon the same Dior shoot mentioned above, and screencapped it. Then I corrected and uploaded it to Commons... Finally I went to the talk page to propose it, but I found out someone else had the same thought process as me. I'm a bit of an idiot. Anyway, here's the image:
Achtungpanzer44 ( talk) 03:50, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Is it possible to replace the current 2013 picture with this new Dior Rose des Vents image? Its more recent (2015), and seems to be a good representation of what she looks like. Leewills ( talk) 18:45, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Can the 2018 infobox photo be the one at the 2018 Cannes Film Festival, please? 2A02:1210:6C61:6E00:AD62:63A1:1243:23AE ( talk) 13:25, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Personally, I think it's high time we changed her picture to something recent and more flattering, like this one: Emilia Clarke at the 2023 Harper's Bazaar Women of the Year Awards.jpg. DemisLittleWarrior ( talk) 15:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)