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Is there any connection to the Quarter Days? Rojomoke ( talk) 13:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be a tone of hostility to the subject in this article. Lines like:
don't seem encyclopedic to me. I'm going to try to tone down the rhetoric. Rwflammang ( talk) 17:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC) [1]
The article could use this information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.89.68.24 ( talk • contribs) 05:01, 16 September 2011
According to Eusebius' Ecclesiastical History, the custom of the Jews was to fast on Tuesday and Thursdays, while the Christians kept Wednesdays and Fridays as fast days instead. I don't know the origin of the Jewish Tuesday-Thursday fast, but I suppose that the shift of one day to Wednesday-Friday was related to the Christian week being centered on the Lord's Day which was one day later than the Sabbath. Friday is a natural fast day for Christians since it was the day of the crucifixion, whereas Friday would be an extremely inconvenient day for a Jew to fast, since it was the preparation day for the Sabbath, which I imagine meant lots of cooking. On the other hand, Thursday might be an unlikely day for a Christian to fast since it was the day of the Last Supper. Astrologers also considered Thursday, or Jupiter-Day, an auspicious day for a feast, so secular culture was incompatible with a fasting Thursday. All of this is mere conjecture, of course. I know of no evidence showing a weekly celebration of the Last Supper, nor of any evidence of Christians feasting on Thursday, although any day sandwiched between two fast days is a natural day to feast.
In Rome, and Rome only, the early Christians also fasted on Saturday. This peculiarity of Roman custom was much remarked on by the early Christians. It was as much a mystery to them as it is to us. Rwflammang ( talk) 09:58, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
All good info - some should be put in the article, properly edited with sources. The idea that Thursday was the day of the Last Supper is interesting, how did that come about, or is it an old tradition, or what? Is it related to the skipping of Thursday during the Ember Days? 73.70.250.164 ( talk)
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I suggest merging Quarter tense into Ember days. The article on "Quarter tense" says that it's the Irish name for ember days, and there's minimal content there. — Moriwen ( talk) 00:35, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
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Is there any connection to the Quarter Days? Rojomoke ( talk) 13:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be a tone of hostility to the subject in this article. Lines like:
don't seem encyclopedic to me. I'm going to try to tone down the rhetoric. Rwflammang ( talk) 17:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC) [1]
The article could use this information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.89.68.24 ( talk • contribs) 05:01, 16 September 2011
According to Eusebius' Ecclesiastical History, the custom of the Jews was to fast on Tuesday and Thursdays, while the Christians kept Wednesdays and Fridays as fast days instead. I don't know the origin of the Jewish Tuesday-Thursday fast, but I suppose that the shift of one day to Wednesday-Friday was related to the Christian week being centered on the Lord's Day which was one day later than the Sabbath. Friday is a natural fast day for Christians since it was the day of the crucifixion, whereas Friday would be an extremely inconvenient day for a Jew to fast, since it was the preparation day for the Sabbath, which I imagine meant lots of cooking. On the other hand, Thursday might be an unlikely day for a Christian to fast since it was the day of the Last Supper. Astrologers also considered Thursday, or Jupiter-Day, an auspicious day for a feast, so secular culture was incompatible with a fasting Thursday. All of this is mere conjecture, of course. I know of no evidence showing a weekly celebration of the Last Supper, nor of any evidence of Christians feasting on Thursday, although any day sandwiched between two fast days is a natural day to feast.
In Rome, and Rome only, the early Christians also fasted on Saturday. This peculiarity of Roman custom was much remarked on by the early Christians. It was as much a mystery to them as it is to us. Rwflammang ( talk) 09:58, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
All good info - some should be put in the article, properly edited with sources. The idea that Thursday was the day of the Last Supper is interesting, how did that come about, or is it an old tradition, or what? Is it related to the skipping of Thursday during the Ember Days? 73.70.250.164 ( talk)
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I suggest merging Quarter tense into Ember days. The article on "Quarter tense" says that it's the Irish name for ember days, and there's minimal content there. — Moriwen ( talk) 00:35, 10 July 2023 (UTC)