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The first picture displayed in this article details the internal architecture of a router. It would be more useful if that picture is inserted in the article about router. User : Anoop anooprs 14:51, 04 November 2007 (GMT)
The picture clearly is inadequate: "An embedded system is a computer system with a dedicated function within a larger mechanical or electrical system". May I ask what the mechanical or electrical system is in which the router is embedded? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.246.191.23 ( talk) 21:02, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
The picture is clearly out of place here. An ADSL modem/router is not embedded in the sense the article explains. I took the image from the German Wikipedia so that it does not confuse readers unaware of the subject.-- Sae1962 ( talk) 13:35, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
The third paragraph explains that cell phones and handheld computers are not truly embedded systems, but the list of example embedded systems includes these items. Also, by the same explanation of being too general in purpose, game consoles and PDAs probably don't qualify as embedded systems.
How exciting! B class! Hm ... I wonder what it needs to be A class ... probably more references. "has some gaps or missing elements or references, needs editing for language usage and/or clarity, balance of content," Can't disagree with that. Aaron Lawrence 11:25, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
This page is definately more organized than before, but the content is so superficial for many of the topics that it would not be a bad idea to link to secondary pages for many of them. For example, reliability in embedded systems could definately use its own page, as it is it gets a paragraph. Anyone with experience in ES will have to agree, the overall ES content in wikipedia is weak. While I don't advocate making this page into a WWII size megapage, I do think that many of the areas should have their own pages. Thomaslw 22:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
http://microcontrollershop.com/An%20Embedded%20Tools%20Introduction.php Article on tools used to develop code for Embedded Systems could also serve as a reference for some of the debugging/software sections of Wikipedia ES article.
http://www.ucpros.com/Newsletter.htm - Embedded System News Digest, Embedded System Industry News in a concise format.
Cwatti ( talk) 01:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
An "embedded system" is a bit of hardware that does something. A "virtual machine" is a software programming concept. Maybe Java virtual machines are used to program embvedded systems, but at most shoulnd't that be mentioned under "software architectures", if at all? And it needs a reference (and the rest of the article needs references). -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 16:19, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article be titled " embedded computer system?". I know there isn't much in the way of alternate usage of the term, but there's no point in the title being broader than what the article is discussing. Oicumayberight ( talk) 22:18, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Both points seem relevant here, but apparently not yet fully resolved. I would propose the introduction begin by indicating that: an embedded system refers to something that is complete in itself (the system) which monitors and can act upon its environment (embedded). The term is used predominantly in engineering, most frequently to refer to a controller inside.... Just a side note, but the term embedded system is also applied to eg. autonomous car, aircraft, satellites, etc. Ultimâ ( talk) 16:11, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Responding to "the text added elsewhere seems to rely on an incorrect definition of embedded" - ST47 is only familiar with embedded control systems. There are many types so characterising means defining by common properties. Please see https://www.controleng.com/articles/what-is-an-embedded-system/ Ultimâ ( talk) 14:10, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Within engineering an embedded system has the role to influence a physical environment in which it is placed. While applicable to systems such as autonomous cars and aircraft, it is most frequently applied to the control system (or controller) within these larger systems. A controller has a dedicated function within a larger mechanical or electrical system, often with real-time computing constraints...
Embedded systems are designed to do some specific task, rather than be a general-purpose computer for multiple tasks. They are complete in themselves (a system) and placed inside an environment to exert some influence (embedded). In this context embedded includes the ability to monitor and exert action externally, similarly to embedded intelligence, embedded software and embedded analytics. Some also have real-time performance constraints that must be met, for reasons such as safety and usability; others may have low or no performance requirements, allowing the system hardware to be simplified to reduce costs.
I think it's more accurate to say that an embedded system is a computer embedded in a system or embedded computing function within a system. Saying it's a computing system sounds like computing is its primary function. It's a lot like calling a car a "motor." Oicumayberight ( talk) 19:09, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
very closely related overlapping subjects., best handled together DGG ( talk ) 06:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
The article states that "Ninety-eight percent of all microprocessors are manufactured as components of embedded systems.[4]", where [4] refers to http://www.embedded.com/electronics-blogs/barr-code/4027479/Real-men-program-in-C . I was not able to find any support for the claimed fact on the referenced page. If there are no other sources to back it up, I would remove it. Fuyu5ama ( talk) 13:47, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
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The first picture displayed in this article details the internal architecture of a router. It would be more useful if that picture is inserted in the article about router. User : Anoop anooprs 14:51, 04 November 2007 (GMT)
The picture clearly is inadequate: "An embedded system is a computer system with a dedicated function within a larger mechanical or electrical system". May I ask what the mechanical or electrical system is in which the router is embedded? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.246.191.23 ( talk) 21:02, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
The picture is clearly out of place here. An ADSL modem/router is not embedded in the sense the article explains. I took the image from the German Wikipedia so that it does not confuse readers unaware of the subject.-- Sae1962 ( talk) 13:35, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
The third paragraph explains that cell phones and handheld computers are not truly embedded systems, but the list of example embedded systems includes these items. Also, by the same explanation of being too general in purpose, game consoles and PDAs probably don't qualify as embedded systems.
How exciting! B class! Hm ... I wonder what it needs to be A class ... probably more references. "has some gaps or missing elements or references, needs editing for language usage and/or clarity, balance of content," Can't disagree with that. Aaron Lawrence 11:25, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
This page is definately more organized than before, but the content is so superficial for many of the topics that it would not be a bad idea to link to secondary pages for many of them. For example, reliability in embedded systems could definately use its own page, as it is it gets a paragraph. Anyone with experience in ES will have to agree, the overall ES content in wikipedia is weak. While I don't advocate making this page into a WWII size megapage, I do think that many of the areas should have their own pages. Thomaslw 22:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
http://microcontrollershop.com/An%20Embedded%20Tools%20Introduction.php Article on tools used to develop code for Embedded Systems could also serve as a reference for some of the debugging/software sections of Wikipedia ES article.
http://www.ucpros.com/Newsletter.htm - Embedded System News Digest, Embedded System Industry News in a concise format.
Cwatti ( talk) 01:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
An "embedded system" is a bit of hardware that does something. A "virtual machine" is a software programming concept. Maybe Java virtual machines are used to program embvedded systems, but at most shoulnd't that be mentioned under "software architectures", if at all? And it needs a reference (and the rest of the article needs references). -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 16:19, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't this article be titled " embedded computer system?". I know there isn't much in the way of alternate usage of the term, but there's no point in the title being broader than what the article is discussing. Oicumayberight ( talk) 22:18, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Both points seem relevant here, but apparently not yet fully resolved. I would propose the introduction begin by indicating that: an embedded system refers to something that is complete in itself (the system) which monitors and can act upon its environment (embedded). The term is used predominantly in engineering, most frequently to refer to a controller inside.... Just a side note, but the term embedded system is also applied to eg. autonomous car, aircraft, satellites, etc. Ultimâ ( talk) 16:11, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Responding to "the text added elsewhere seems to rely on an incorrect definition of embedded" - ST47 is only familiar with embedded control systems. There are many types so characterising means defining by common properties. Please see https://www.controleng.com/articles/what-is-an-embedded-system/ Ultimâ ( talk) 14:10, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Within engineering an embedded system has the role to influence a physical environment in which it is placed. While applicable to systems such as autonomous cars and aircraft, it is most frequently applied to the control system (or controller) within these larger systems. A controller has a dedicated function within a larger mechanical or electrical system, often with real-time computing constraints...
Embedded systems are designed to do some specific task, rather than be a general-purpose computer for multiple tasks. They are complete in themselves (a system) and placed inside an environment to exert some influence (embedded). In this context embedded includes the ability to monitor and exert action externally, similarly to embedded intelligence, embedded software and embedded analytics. Some also have real-time performance constraints that must be met, for reasons such as safety and usability; others may have low or no performance requirements, allowing the system hardware to be simplified to reduce costs.
I think it's more accurate to say that an embedded system is a computer embedded in a system or embedded computing function within a system. Saying it's a computing system sounds like computing is its primary function. It's a lot like calling a car a "motor." Oicumayberight ( talk) 19:09, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
very closely related overlapping subjects., best handled together DGG ( talk ) 06:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
The article states that "Ninety-eight percent of all microprocessors are manufactured as components of embedded systems.[4]", where [4] refers to http://www.embedded.com/electronics-blogs/barr-code/4027479/Real-men-program-in-C . I was not able to find any support for the claimed fact on the referenced page. If there are no other sources to back it up, I would remove it. Fuyu5ama ( talk) 13:47, 14 June 2016 (UTC)