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See the discussion on the Talk:Eilat page, amongst others:
hi peeps — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.26.179.93 ( talk) 02:29, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
The article titled `Elliyôun also needs to be changed as its `E is not in normal use and would only confuse most readers. IZAK 07:34, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Neither of these terms have a "usual" English transliteration, so the problem here is much less accute than it is in articles about modern cities or regions. I do agree though that these transliterations are strange in that there is no way that anyone is ever going to guess them and type "`Elliyôun" into the "go" box. The backticks (`) are indeed accepted transliterations of ayin, though, so I don't know if to suggest to remove it or not. I don't understand the accent-circumflex on the o though. In French, the accent-circumflex suggests that a letter has been lost, and this is not the case here. Nyh 09:34, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
This article seems to suggest that Elyon is either another name for Yahweh or another god entirely. It is not very clear on the subject. Could someone maybe clean that up and make any distinction between different usages of the name more clear? Hdgerow ( talk) 23:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey to the (five, tops) people reading this article. I just noticed that the translation of Psalms 78:35 might be a bit off.
"And they remembered that God [elōhīm] was their rock, and the high God [ēl elyōn] their redeemer"
Might be better as: "And they remembered the Gods [elōhīm] were their rock, and the high God [ēl elyōn] their redeemer"
I say this due to the use of "elōhīm", sometimes a plural, when "elyōn" was established as "God" seporatly in Psalms, and I believe my translation reads better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.56.254.135 ( talk) 14:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Niet, The Translation Was Correct, That Was False, For The Writer, Was Considered. In Its Own, Multi-Lingual. In Bi-Sex-Tant. The Converse, Of What Was Stated, From Peter- As Peter, Not Being Part Of That Reading, As He Was Noted- But He Was As, Well The Scribe, He Was The Most Noted Being, In The Scribes As We All Know, For Being The Eldest, Of, Them At That Time.
For Whence We State, In The Trial's Of Thine "Taithe", Search In Theses, Of The Theo's Of The Quote. I Cant Even Quote It, For Spoken Worth. Meaning Of Trial's, Of Judgement.
For All I Know, Was A Judge's Judgement Was Justified, And Even In It's Wake, Of Burdon's Bane's, Was Reputed, And The Testament Was Resputed, Even Though Writted, Was Re-Worded, For Worth Of Woe. If Who Wrote What, Was Worth The Weight In Word. For Marias Was The Leader, Of That Time's Militia, Was Judas A Judaic Word, Of The Law. John 3:16, Obadas&Macaw — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.54.184.13 ( talk) 16:11, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Please clarify statement, "However, its use in the Ugarit (modern Ras Shamra, Syria) tablets has proven it to be pre-Mosaic." Is this a reference to the Sefire I Inscription God list from the Sefire steles? Also please list page number which Hertz states this in "The Pentateuch and Haftoras. Deuteronomy" TruthCkr ( talk) 16:57, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
1. Relationship between the names El, Elyon and "El ELyon". [1][ [2] [3] [4], Yahweh, Maker of Heaven and Earth": A Study in Tradition Criticism by Norman C. Habel, "The Religion of the Patriarchs in Genesis" by John Van Seters
2. El Elyon as Canaanite god and worshipped by Abram.eg [5] [6]and [7] which mentions El Elyon's solar character.
3. Jebusite cult of Elyon. [8]
I'm sure there's more. This article needs to be rewritten to reflect that the scholarly sources think. Doug Weller talk 15:26, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Elyon =
Rhel-ion =
Hyperion
Just granpa (
talk)
10:10, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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See the discussion on the Talk:Eilat page, amongst others:
hi peeps — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.26.179.93 ( talk) 02:29, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
The article titled `Elliyôun also needs to be changed as its `E is not in normal use and would only confuse most readers. IZAK 07:34, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Neither of these terms have a "usual" English transliteration, so the problem here is much less accute than it is in articles about modern cities or regions. I do agree though that these transliterations are strange in that there is no way that anyone is ever going to guess them and type "`Elliyôun" into the "go" box. The backticks (`) are indeed accepted transliterations of ayin, though, so I don't know if to suggest to remove it or not. I don't understand the accent-circumflex on the o though. In French, the accent-circumflex suggests that a letter has been lost, and this is not the case here. Nyh 09:34, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
This article seems to suggest that Elyon is either another name for Yahweh or another god entirely. It is not very clear on the subject. Could someone maybe clean that up and make any distinction between different usages of the name more clear? Hdgerow ( talk) 23:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey to the (five, tops) people reading this article. I just noticed that the translation of Psalms 78:35 might be a bit off.
"And they remembered that God [elōhīm] was their rock, and the high God [ēl elyōn] their redeemer"
Might be better as: "And they remembered the Gods [elōhīm] were their rock, and the high God [ēl elyōn] their redeemer"
I say this due to the use of "elōhīm", sometimes a plural, when "elyōn" was established as "God" seporatly in Psalms, and I believe my translation reads better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.56.254.135 ( talk) 14:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Niet, The Translation Was Correct, That Was False, For The Writer, Was Considered. In Its Own, Multi-Lingual. In Bi-Sex-Tant. The Converse, Of What Was Stated, From Peter- As Peter, Not Being Part Of That Reading, As He Was Noted- But He Was As, Well The Scribe, He Was The Most Noted Being, In The Scribes As We All Know, For Being The Eldest, Of, Them At That Time.
For Whence We State, In The Trial's Of Thine "Taithe", Search In Theses, Of The Theo's Of The Quote. I Cant Even Quote It, For Spoken Worth. Meaning Of Trial's, Of Judgement.
For All I Know, Was A Judge's Judgement Was Justified, And Even In It's Wake, Of Burdon's Bane's, Was Reputed, And The Testament Was Resputed, Even Though Writted, Was Re-Worded, For Worth Of Woe. If Who Wrote What, Was Worth The Weight In Word. For Marias Was The Leader, Of That Time's Militia, Was Judas A Judaic Word, Of The Law. John 3:16, Obadas&Macaw — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.54.184.13 ( talk) 16:11, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Please clarify statement, "However, its use in the Ugarit (modern Ras Shamra, Syria) tablets has proven it to be pre-Mosaic." Is this a reference to the Sefire I Inscription God list from the Sefire steles? Also please list page number which Hertz states this in "The Pentateuch and Haftoras. Deuteronomy" TruthCkr ( talk) 16:57, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
1. Relationship between the names El, Elyon and "El ELyon". [1][ [2] [3] [4], Yahweh, Maker of Heaven and Earth": A Study in Tradition Criticism by Norman C. Habel, "The Religion of the Patriarchs in Genesis" by John Van Seters
2. El Elyon as Canaanite god and worshipped by Abram.eg [5] [6]and [7] which mentions El Elyon's solar character.
3. Jebusite cult of Elyon. [8]
I'm sure there's more. This article needs to be rewritten to reflect that the scholarly sources think. Doug Weller talk 15:26, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Elyon =
Rhel-ion =
Hyperion
Just granpa (
talk)
10:10, 14 March 2021 (UTC)