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There is a recent Playboy article by Byron Raphael and Alanna Nash, entitled "In Bed With Elvis" (November 2005). In it, Byron Raphael, who worked for Elvis in 1956-57, claims that a string of famous beauties told him that what happened behind closed doors wasn't as steamy, or as normal as Elvis fans would think. The singer seems to have been a complete failure in bed. It is stated, for instance, that Natalie Wood went straight into Elvis's bedroom and 20 minutes later she came out, huffing and puffing that Elvis did not want to consumate the act. The same article also deals with the innuendo that "tongues wagged that Elvis and Adams (i.e. Nick Adams) were getting it on." I don't know how reliable this article is. It should be mentioned that Alanna Nash, its co-author, according to User:Ted Wilkes, is a reliable source. However, Elvis fans and authors writing in the vein of the world-wide Elvis industry seem to denigrate this article. Onefortyone 02:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
As usual, discredited User:Onefortyone/Anon 80.141 et al quotes out of context and distorts facts. Alanna Nash never made any such statements, she only writes that Raphael made unsubstantiated claims. While I don’t read Playboy, the website for MSNC.com says that "According to Raphael, Presley was scared of gays and lesbians." Then it says that Raphael is quoted: "I loved Elvis and I loved my time with him. The things that I had to say are true and I don't think they tear him down. I think it shows — not so much a darker side of him — but just how innocent he was compared to this image that he had. He was not some wild rock-and-roller. He was a very sweet and shy young guy." - Ted Wilkes 22:47, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
For the complete Playboy article, see [1]. In it, the authors say,
As at that time most people were of the opinion that homosexuality was immoral and violated the law, it is understandable that Elvis might have tried to repress any feelings of that kind. However, there is some evidence that he had a sexual affair with his gay friend Nick Adams. Onefortyone 17:21, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Significantly, in the recent Playboy article, Byron Raphael and Alanna Nash now confirm that Natalie Wood "was not the only one to think Elvis and the guys might be homosexual" and that there were rumors about an affair between Elvis and Nick Adams (see quote above). Onefortyone 21:10, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
It should also be noted that Daniel Rancour-Laferriere, in his peer-reviewed book Self-Analysis in Literary Study: Exploring Hidden Agendas (1994), mentions that " Albert Goldman (1981) hypothesized about homoeroticism in the gentile male icon Elvis Presley." (p. 160) So there seem to be several claims, not only by David Bret, Dee Presley and Earl Greenwood (see [2]), that Elvis might have had homosexual leanings. Onefortyone 23:38, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
With all due respect, you're regurgitating the very same arguments from discredited sources. There have been several thousand books published about Elvis that document everything to his music to his bowel movements. You have one book from a less-than credible source that suggests he might have been a homosexual. Other than that, all you have is personal conjecture and innuendo. This really doesn't belong here. You have an agenda that has no place in an online encyclopedia. Lochdale
I disagree. You clearly have an agenda and your position is certainly not a neutral P.O.V. You are already trying to manipulate the issue to move towards unfounded allegations of Presely's sexuality. All you have "proven" is that a discredited and salacious writer (David Brett) has made allegations that Presley may of had an affair with another man. He is the only person to do so in over 2,000 seperate books about Preseley. He has little credibility. You then claim (without a real citation) that an unpublished manuscript by someone with an agenda is evidence supporting this claim. Dee Presley also claimed that Elvis had an affair with his own Mother so I don't think it is unreasonable to question her veracity. There are direct statements from numerous women who slept with Presley (including such high profile actresses as Ann Margaret and Cybil Sheparad) as well as a plethora of anecdotal evidence that utterly debunks your claim. Look at it this way, with over 2,000 books alone published about Presley, some of which detail the most salacious aspects of Presley's life, you have to resort to a muck-raker and an unpublished manuscript. I think it makes more sense for us to follow the overwhelming weight of the evidence which does not support your claim in any way.
Would you mind providing another link to the Nash article? I am having no luck finding it on Google.
You are wrong, Lochdale. It seems as if you have an agenda, as you are deleting quotes from published sources. For the article by Byron Raphael and Alanna Nash, see [3]. Did you read what I have written above? Elvis's wife, in her book, Elvis and Me, admits that Elvis was not overtly sexual towards her and Anita Wood. Here are some quotes from the book concerning the nights Priscilla spent with Elvis:
It is clearly said that Elvis didn't make love to Anita Wood the whole four years he went with her. On page 206 of her book, Priscilla says about Elvis's asexuality:
In her book Child Bride: The Untold Story of Priscilla Beaulieu Presley, Suzanne Finstad, a former lawyer and reputed biographer and known for her over-attention to detail, also relates similar stories about Elvis's sexuality. Her sources were several people who knew Elvis and Priscilla well, among them many friends from Priscilla's childhood and adolescence, Elvis's stepbrother Rick Stanley, Mike Edwards, Elvis's ex-girlfriends and the wives of the Memphis Mafia men.
On pages 284-286 of his book The Boy who would be King: An Intimate Portrait of Elvis Presley by his Cousin (1990), Earl Greenwood, Elvis's second cousin who paled around with the singer for many years before and after his success, refers to the death of Elvis's gay friend, Nick Adams and confirms that they "shared a mutual enjoyment of prescription drugs", that "Nick became a regular at whatever house Elvis was renting", that he asked Nick "to stay over on nights", that Elvis "talked about how close they had been", that they had "intimacies" and that Adams "had wanted 'too much'..." The author adds that "some pointed comments were made about the two of them years later by a disgruntled hand Elvis just fired... Regardless of any intimacies, Nick didn't kill himself over Elvis - it turned out he had a lot of demons haunting him. But Elvis beat himself over Nick's death for a long time." The play Cooking With Elvis by Lee Hall includes a scene where Singing Elvis becomes Reverend Elvis and makes bizarre speeches about sodomites. According to reviewer Rich See, this is a reference to the "gay rumors that continue to swirl around the King of Rock and Roll," for instance, his "obsession with James Dean" and his "alleged affair with actor Nick Adams." See [4]. Now reputed Memphis Mafia and Elvis expert Alanna Nash, in her recent article, also confirms that there were such rumors during Elvis's lifetime. Even Natalie Wood was of the opinion that Elvis and the members from the Memphis Mafia might be homosexual. According to a Guardian report of April 6, 2001, director Bryan Forbes once asked whether Mick [Jagger] "could confirm whether Elvis was gay." On page 160 of his peer-reviewed book, Self-Analysis in Literary Study: Exploring Hidden Agendas (1994), Daniel Rancour-Laferriere mentions that " Albert Goldman (1981) hypothesized about homoeroticism in the gentile male icon Elvis Presley." Indeed, in his book Elvis, Goldman suggests that Elvis's promiscuity masked latent homosexuality. These are facts you cannot deny. Significantly, on 12 August 2005, you falsely claimed on this talk page: "Goldman, however, made no reference or inference that Elvis was gay or bi-sexual." See [5]. I am sorry to say that you are wrong. How can you say that there is only one published source including these claims?
Even several fan sites are discussing the rumors about Elvis's sexuality. One person, who apparently knew what was going on, said about the singer,
As this is not a reliable source, I have not yet mentioned it, concentrating on the published materials, but this statement confirms what Priscilla Presley and Suzanne Finstad have written.
As for Dee Presley's claims that Elvis slept with his mother, Greil Marcus writes in Double Trouble: Bill Clinton and Elvis Presley in a Land of No Alternatives (2000):
The Wikipedia:Verifiability page says,
This is what I am doing. Referring to facts, assertions, theories, ideas, claims, opinions, and arguments published in reliable independent sources such as published books and articles. Onefortyone 05:29, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
There should be a new paragraph concerning Elvis's allegedly wild sex life in the article. As the quotes above and Priscilla Presley's statements in her book Elvis and Me (see [6]) prove, Elvis was not overtly sexual towards his wife and other women as has been claimed in the "Relationships" section of the article. According to Peter Guralnick and other sources, he spent the whole day and night with men from the Memphis Mafia, "living on speed and tranqs." See Talk:Memphis_Mafia#Additional_sources. It could well be that Elvis was a victim of his own image, of all these built-in expectations of him as a womanizer and a sex symbol. There should be some critical remarks concerning these facts in the article. Onefortyone 11:50, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
I don't think page protection is getting us anywhere. I'm unprotecting. Anyone engaged in disruptive editing may be blocked under the blocking policy subject to review one the administrators' noticeboard for incidents. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 11:12, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
According to Steve Wright on BBC Radio 2 a few days ago, Elvis was reported to be alive and well and driving a gritter through a snowstorm down a Welsh country lane. Come to think of it, a few years ago he was winning cycle races in Scotland. I know that because for several years in succession I presented him with the prize for winning our local race. (Or rather to a guy who went on to win "stars in their eyes"..) Viewfinder 13:48, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Of Course Elvis is alive and well, Steve Wright even interviews him from time to time on his radio show, on the segment "Ask Elvis" !
Can anyone confirm the ship he sailed to Europe aboard was operated by USN & N USNS (civil under USN control)? (If so, she'd be USNS, N USS.) Trekphiler 16:34, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
I'd Q if gospel gave birth to R&B. As I recall, gospel (as we now know it) was a product of R&B influences, & grew out of an earlier spiritual music tradition. Trekphiler 16:40, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure how you arrived at Qing that fact? But, just because Presley, B.B. King, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard and others said it, I would agree that it "ain't necessarily so." Gospel music came from many sources, notably in the 16th and 17th century in the developing Protestantism of England and on the Continent. It got the term because at first it was actual
New Testament Gospel quotes put to song. It was brought to America where freedom of religion was allowed and more expressive singing arose from that sense of freedom. Gospel music is recorded throughout pre and post American Revolution history. It was the Protestant churches who encouraged singing by the Congregation whereas the Roman Catholic faith did not. The early country gospel was loud, and as the Presley article states, church members, whose lives in small communities revolved around their church, were encouraged to "make a joyful noise unto the Lord." (I think that is a Scripture quote. It is, I just checked: Psalm 100:1). "Negro spirituals" are most often called Gospel music. R&B came from that singing. Presley stated that because of his upbringing, he "knew every gospel song ever written." - 18:50, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Why exactly did you remove the "died on the toilet" from the "Death and burial" section? You didn't give any reasons in your edit summary. Maybe you could share those reasons with us here in the discussion page ( 129.241.134.241 08:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC))
As there has not yet been a sufficient discussion on the topics above, I have reinstated the paragraphs from the archive7 page. Onefortyone 14:30, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
...as if every day was like Christmas. By the way, if you don't mind, we wish you'd tell the angels in Heaven we wish them a happy Christmas, too. Onefortyone 11:37, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
I have added some notes to the paragraph on Priscilla Presley in the Relationships section. In Suzanne Finstad's book, Child Bride: The Untold Story of Priscilla Beaulieu Presley, there is a completely different account of Priscilla's life, painting her in a rather negative light and describing her as a "wild child" and "sexpot". The sources of this book are several people who knew Elvis and Priscilla well, among them many friends from Priscilla's childhood and adolescence, Elvis's stepbrother Rick Stanley, Mike Edwards, Elvis's ex-girlfriends and the wives of the Memphis Mafia men. The author writes that Priscilla promised sexual favors in exchange for meeting Elvis with Currie Grant, a married, 27-year-old man who knew the singer, that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night, as she and Elvis slept together on their second date. The book also says that Priscilla didn't want to come to live with Elvis, but that her marriage was part of a mastermind for fame hatched by Priscilla and her mother and that she never loved Elvis. Finstad takes many quotes that Priscilla has made and calls them a web of lies that she has spun. Some more details from this book may be added. It should be noted, however, that Priscilla launched a lawsuit against Currie Grant for his claims in the book. Onefortyone 00:20, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
I have cut this paragraph which was added by an anonymous user to the Death section of the article:
In my opinion, this paragraph should be rewritten and perhaps included in the Drug section. Are there any secondary sources supporting this passage? Perhaps some quotes from Kathy Westmoreland's book, Elvis and Kathy, and other sources may be added here. See also the Wikipedia article on Kathy Westmoreland created by User:Ted Wilkes. However, I do not know how reliable this source is, as the author herself admits that she fell in love with Elvis and slept with him. She also claims that she was told by Elvis’ doctor, Dr Nickopoulos that the singer was dying of bone cancer. This, however, sounds rather unlikely. On the other hand, this assertion seems to be in line with Dee Presley's claim in her unpublished manuscript book that Elvis had committed suicide because he had been suffering from bone-marrow cancer. Today, Kathy has her own fan club, and a website. In his book, Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley, Peter Guralnick says on page 566,
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There is a recent Playboy article by Byron Raphael and Alanna Nash, entitled "In Bed With Elvis" (November 2005). In it, Byron Raphael, who worked for Elvis in 1956-57, claims that a string of famous beauties told him that what happened behind closed doors wasn't as steamy, or as normal as Elvis fans would think. The singer seems to have been a complete failure in bed. It is stated, for instance, that Natalie Wood went straight into Elvis's bedroom and 20 minutes later she came out, huffing and puffing that Elvis did not want to consumate the act. The same article also deals with the innuendo that "tongues wagged that Elvis and Adams (i.e. Nick Adams) were getting it on." I don't know how reliable this article is. It should be mentioned that Alanna Nash, its co-author, according to User:Ted Wilkes, is a reliable source. However, Elvis fans and authors writing in the vein of the world-wide Elvis industry seem to denigrate this article. Onefortyone 02:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
As usual, discredited User:Onefortyone/Anon 80.141 et al quotes out of context and distorts facts. Alanna Nash never made any such statements, she only writes that Raphael made unsubstantiated claims. While I don’t read Playboy, the website for MSNC.com says that "According to Raphael, Presley was scared of gays and lesbians." Then it says that Raphael is quoted: "I loved Elvis and I loved my time with him. The things that I had to say are true and I don't think they tear him down. I think it shows — not so much a darker side of him — but just how innocent he was compared to this image that he had. He was not some wild rock-and-roller. He was a very sweet and shy young guy." - Ted Wilkes 22:47, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
For the complete Playboy article, see [1]. In it, the authors say,
As at that time most people were of the opinion that homosexuality was immoral and violated the law, it is understandable that Elvis might have tried to repress any feelings of that kind. However, there is some evidence that he had a sexual affair with his gay friend Nick Adams. Onefortyone 17:21, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Significantly, in the recent Playboy article, Byron Raphael and Alanna Nash now confirm that Natalie Wood "was not the only one to think Elvis and the guys might be homosexual" and that there were rumors about an affair between Elvis and Nick Adams (see quote above). Onefortyone 21:10, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
It should also be noted that Daniel Rancour-Laferriere, in his peer-reviewed book Self-Analysis in Literary Study: Exploring Hidden Agendas (1994), mentions that " Albert Goldman (1981) hypothesized about homoeroticism in the gentile male icon Elvis Presley." (p. 160) So there seem to be several claims, not only by David Bret, Dee Presley and Earl Greenwood (see [2]), that Elvis might have had homosexual leanings. Onefortyone 23:38, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
With all due respect, you're regurgitating the very same arguments from discredited sources. There have been several thousand books published about Elvis that document everything to his music to his bowel movements. You have one book from a less-than credible source that suggests he might have been a homosexual. Other than that, all you have is personal conjecture and innuendo. This really doesn't belong here. You have an agenda that has no place in an online encyclopedia. Lochdale
I disagree. You clearly have an agenda and your position is certainly not a neutral P.O.V. You are already trying to manipulate the issue to move towards unfounded allegations of Presely's sexuality. All you have "proven" is that a discredited and salacious writer (David Brett) has made allegations that Presley may of had an affair with another man. He is the only person to do so in over 2,000 seperate books about Preseley. He has little credibility. You then claim (without a real citation) that an unpublished manuscript by someone with an agenda is evidence supporting this claim. Dee Presley also claimed that Elvis had an affair with his own Mother so I don't think it is unreasonable to question her veracity. There are direct statements from numerous women who slept with Presley (including such high profile actresses as Ann Margaret and Cybil Sheparad) as well as a plethora of anecdotal evidence that utterly debunks your claim. Look at it this way, with over 2,000 books alone published about Presley, some of which detail the most salacious aspects of Presley's life, you have to resort to a muck-raker and an unpublished manuscript. I think it makes more sense for us to follow the overwhelming weight of the evidence which does not support your claim in any way.
Would you mind providing another link to the Nash article? I am having no luck finding it on Google.
You are wrong, Lochdale. It seems as if you have an agenda, as you are deleting quotes from published sources. For the article by Byron Raphael and Alanna Nash, see [3]. Did you read what I have written above? Elvis's wife, in her book, Elvis and Me, admits that Elvis was not overtly sexual towards her and Anita Wood. Here are some quotes from the book concerning the nights Priscilla spent with Elvis:
It is clearly said that Elvis didn't make love to Anita Wood the whole four years he went with her. On page 206 of her book, Priscilla says about Elvis's asexuality:
In her book Child Bride: The Untold Story of Priscilla Beaulieu Presley, Suzanne Finstad, a former lawyer and reputed biographer and known for her over-attention to detail, also relates similar stories about Elvis's sexuality. Her sources were several people who knew Elvis and Priscilla well, among them many friends from Priscilla's childhood and adolescence, Elvis's stepbrother Rick Stanley, Mike Edwards, Elvis's ex-girlfriends and the wives of the Memphis Mafia men.
On pages 284-286 of his book The Boy who would be King: An Intimate Portrait of Elvis Presley by his Cousin (1990), Earl Greenwood, Elvis's second cousin who paled around with the singer for many years before and after his success, refers to the death of Elvis's gay friend, Nick Adams and confirms that they "shared a mutual enjoyment of prescription drugs", that "Nick became a regular at whatever house Elvis was renting", that he asked Nick "to stay over on nights", that Elvis "talked about how close they had been", that they had "intimacies" and that Adams "had wanted 'too much'..." The author adds that "some pointed comments were made about the two of them years later by a disgruntled hand Elvis just fired... Regardless of any intimacies, Nick didn't kill himself over Elvis - it turned out he had a lot of demons haunting him. But Elvis beat himself over Nick's death for a long time." The play Cooking With Elvis by Lee Hall includes a scene where Singing Elvis becomes Reverend Elvis and makes bizarre speeches about sodomites. According to reviewer Rich See, this is a reference to the "gay rumors that continue to swirl around the King of Rock and Roll," for instance, his "obsession with James Dean" and his "alleged affair with actor Nick Adams." See [4]. Now reputed Memphis Mafia and Elvis expert Alanna Nash, in her recent article, also confirms that there were such rumors during Elvis's lifetime. Even Natalie Wood was of the opinion that Elvis and the members from the Memphis Mafia might be homosexual. According to a Guardian report of April 6, 2001, director Bryan Forbes once asked whether Mick [Jagger] "could confirm whether Elvis was gay." On page 160 of his peer-reviewed book, Self-Analysis in Literary Study: Exploring Hidden Agendas (1994), Daniel Rancour-Laferriere mentions that " Albert Goldman (1981) hypothesized about homoeroticism in the gentile male icon Elvis Presley." Indeed, in his book Elvis, Goldman suggests that Elvis's promiscuity masked latent homosexuality. These are facts you cannot deny. Significantly, on 12 August 2005, you falsely claimed on this talk page: "Goldman, however, made no reference or inference that Elvis was gay or bi-sexual." See [5]. I am sorry to say that you are wrong. How can you say that there is only one published source including these claims?
Even several fan sites are discussing the rumors about Elvis's sexuality. One person, who apparently knew what was going on, said about the singer,
As this is not a reliable source, I have not yet mentioned it, concentrating on the published materials, but this statement confirms what Priscilla Presley and Suzanne Finstad have written.
As for Dee Presley's claims that Elvis slept with his mother, Greil Marcus writes in Double Trouble: Bill Clinton and Elvis Presley in a Land of No Alternatives (2000):
The Wikipedia:Verifiability page says,
This is what I am doing. Referring to facts, assertions, theories, ideas, claims, opinions, and arguments published in reliable independent sources such as published books and articles. Onefortyone 05:29, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
There should be a new paragraph concerning Elvis's allegedly wild sex life in the article. As the quotes above and Priscilla Presley's statements in her book Elvis and Me (see [6]) prove, Elvis was not overtly sexual towards his wife and other women as has been claimed in the "Relationships" section of the article. According to Peter Guralnick and other sources, he spent the whole day and night with men from the Memphis Mafia, "living on speed and tranqs." See Talk:Memphis_Mafia#Additional_sources. It could well be that Elvis was a victim of his own image, of all these built-in expectations of him as a womanizer and a sex symbol. There should be some critical remarks concerning these facts in the article. Onefortyone 11:50, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
I don't think page protection is getting us anywhere. I'm unprotecting. Anyone engaged in disruptive editing may be blocked under the blocking policy subject to review one the administrators' noticeboard for incidents. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 11:12, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
According to Steve Wright on BBC Radio 2 a few days ago, Elvis was reported to be alive and well and driving a gritter through a snowstorm down a Welsh country lane. Come to think of it, a few years ago he was winning cycle races in Scotland. I know that because for several years in succession I presented him with the prize for winning our local race. (Or rather to a guy who went on to win "stars in their eyes"..) Viewfinder 13:48, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Of Course Elvis is alive and well, Steve Wright even interviews him from time to time on his radio show, on the segment "Ask Elvis" !
Can anyone confirm the ship he sailed to Europe aboard was operated by USN & N USNS (civil under USN control)? (If so, she'd be USNS, N USS.) Trekphiler 16:34, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
I'd Q if gospel gave birth to R&B. As I recall, gospel (as we now know it) was a product of R&B influences, & grew out of an earlier spiritual music tradition. Trekphiler 16:40, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure how you arrived at Qing that fact? But, just because Presley, B.B. King, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard and others said it, I would agree that it "ain't necessarily so." Gospel music came from many sources, notably in the 16th and 17th century in the developing Protestantism of England and on the Continent. It got the term because at first it was actual
New Testament Gospel quotes put to song. It was brought to America where freedom of religion was allowed and more expressive singing arose from that sense of freedom. Gospel music is recorded throughout pre and post American Revolution history. It was the Protestant churches who encouraged singing by the Congregation whereas the Roman Catholic faith did not. The early country gospel was loud, and as the Presley article states, church members, whose lives in small communities revolved around their church, were encouraged to "make a joyful noise unto the Lord." (I think that is a Scripture quote. It is, I just checked: Psalm 100:1). "Negro spirituals" are most often called Gospel music. R&B came from that singing. Presley stated that because of his upbringing, he "knew every gospel song ever written." - 18:50, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Why exactly did you remove the "died on the toilet" from the "Death and burial" section? You didn't give any reasons in your edit summary. Maybe you could share those reasons with us here in the discussion page ( 129.241.134.241 08:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC))
As there has not yet been a sufficient discussion on the topics above, I have reinstated the paragraphs from the archive7 page. Onefortyone 14:30, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
...as if every day was like Christmas. By the way, if you don't mind, we wish you'd tell the angels in Heaven we wish them a happy Christmas, too. Onefortyone 11:37, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
I have added some notes to the paragraph on Priscilla Presley in the Relationships section. In Suzanne Finstad's book, Child Bride: The Untold Story of Priscilla Beaulieu Presley, there is a completely different account of Priscilla's life, painting her in a rather negative light and describing her as a "wild child" and "sexpot". The sources of this book are several people who knew Elvis and Priscilla well, among them many friends from Priscilla's childhood and adolescence, Elvis's stepbrother Rick Stanley, Mike Edwards, Elvis's ex-girlfriends and the wives of the Memphis Mafia men. The author writes that Priscilla promised sexual favors in exchange for meeting Elvis with Currie Grant, a married, 27-year-old man who knew the singer, that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night, as she and Elvis slept together on their second date. The book also says that Priscilla didn't want to come to live with Elvis, but that her marriage was part of a mastermind for fame hatched by Priscilla and her mother and that she never loved Elvis. Finstad takes many quotes that Priscilla has made and calls them a web of lies that she has spun. Some more details from this book may be added. It should be noted, however, that Priscilla launched a lawsuit against Currie Grant for his claims in the book. Onefortyone 00:20, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
I have cut this paragraph which was added by an anonymous user to the Death section of the article:
In my opinion, this paragraph should be rewritten and perhaps included in the Drug section. Are there any secondary sources supporting this passage? Perhaps some quotes from Kathy Westmoreland's book, Elvis and Kathy, and other sources may be added here. See also the Wikipedia article on Kathy Westmoreland created by User:Ted Wilkes. However, I do not know how reliable this source is, as the author herself admits that she fell in love with Elvis and slept with him. She also claims that she was told by Elvis’ doctor, Dr Nickopoulos that the singer was dying of bone cancer. This, however, sounds rather unlikely. On the other hand, this assertion seems to be in line with Dee Presley's claim in her unpublished manuscript book that Elvis had committed suicide because he had been suffering from bone-marrow cancer. Today, Kathy has her own fan club, and a website. In his book, Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley, Peter Guralnick says on page 566,