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Can we get some more citation needed tags added to this article? There's still a few paragraphs that are readable.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.247.17.218 ( talk • contribs)
This image was recently uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and appears to be free of copyright. It looks like a good candidate for the top image to me (we should use free images at the top where availiable). Arniep 22:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
The article should explain that Presley overdosed on ten different drugs because he was going blind from glaucoma and feared he had bone cancer, plus the 10,000 drugs he had taken in 1977 alone had damaged his brain. It's a shame the autopsy report will not be published for some years to come. ... comment added at 22:51, 17 May 2006 by 195.93.21.65, a frequent contributor to this talk page who has been repeatedly and politely asked to sign his or her contributions with "~~~~"
No, it's all factual and from the Internet Movie Database: "In 1977 alone, his personal physician Dr George Constantine Nichopoulos (usually referred to as "Dr Nick") had prescribed 10,000 hits of amphetamines, barbiturates, narcotics, tranquilizers, sleeping pills, laxatives, and hormones for Presley." ... comment added at 17:06, 30 May 2006 by 195.93.21.65, a frequent contributor to this talk page who has been repeatedly and politely asked to sign his or her contributions with "~~~~"
Do you really think an online encyclopedia which anybody can edit is any more reliable? ... comment added at 20:09, 31 May 2006 by 195.93.21.65, a frequent contributor to this talk page who has been repeatedly and politely asked to sign his or her contributions with "~~~~"
On the contrary, I'm interested in seeing the truth told about Presley's sordid life and vastly overrated career. The very concept of an encyclopedia anybody can edit is stupid. ... comment added at 16:18, 1 June 2006 by 195.93.21.65, a frequent contributor to this talk page who has been repeatedly and politely asked to sign his or her contributions with "~~~~"
Presley is actually the second biggest selling recording artist in history, after Michael Jackson, and the article should be corrected thus. The official Elvis website makes it clear they can only account for half a billion record sales worldwide, and it is believed that Crosby too may still be ahead of Presley. ... comment added by 195.93.21.65, a frequent contributor to this talk page who has been repeatedly and politely asked to sign his or her contributions with "~~~~"
Presley's music, which he stole from black culture, sounds so unbelievably dated. Most teenagers have no idea who he was and would just laugh at his pathetic ruined career. Michael's music on the other hnad sounds like it was recorded yesterday. He has sold infinitely more records than Fat Man, and will launch an enormous comeback album at the end of 2007. ... contributed at 21:50, 22 May 2006 by 195.93.21.65, a frequent contributor to this talk page who has been repeatedly and politely asked to sign his or her contributions with "~~~~"
That spurious claim needs to be removed from the introduction, because both Michael Jackson and Bing Crosby have sold far more records, and that can be easily proven. Michael is the biggest selling solo artist in history, and Christmas continues to bring Bing ahead of Presley every year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.93.21.67 ( talk • contribs) 11:02, 3 June 2006
Fine. How about this:
category ---- Elvis Presley ----- Bing Crosby
weeks at #1 --------75 ----------------173
consecutive weeks at the #1 position ---16 (1956) --------- 23 (1944)
most songs in top 30 in one year -------10 (1956) --------- 27 (1939)
total points --------- 33,415 ------------125,899
acted in movies -----31 (no awards) ---- 60 (5 Academy Awards)
The ONLY thing Elvis fans can use is the fact that Elvis was awarded 51 gold or platinum records for recording sales, as compared to only 23 for Bing. However, the RCA did not begin certifying gold records until 1958. Who knows how many hundreds of unofficial gold and platinum records Bing would therefore qualify for? Bing was only available on 78s, yet he consistently sold far more than Presley when people had considerably less money to spend. "White Christmas" was the biggest selling single for 55 years, from 1942 until 1997. He was the first recipient of the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award, and was the biggest selling recording artist in history until the early 1980s, when Michael Jackson began to take over. More information can be found at http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/mus.htm. Bing Crosby, during the 1930s and 1940s, was more popular than Elvis Presley, the Beatles and Michael Jackson COMBINED.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.93.21.65 ( talk • contribs)
The introduction claims Presley is the biggest selling solo artist. This is in fact a complete falsehood, as both Bing Crosby and Michael Jackson have sold far more records worldwide. The spurious claim about Presley's sales needs to be removed immediately. ( 195.93.21.67 07:09, 4 June 2006 (UTC))
Even if Michael isn't the biggest selling solo artist, he has only released 5 albums. Elvis released like 500 and is not definitely the biggest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.93.21.65 ( talk • contribs)
There should be a paragraph on Elvis's sexual ambivalence in the article, as it is subject of several peer-reviewed studies.
There are many more academic studies of this kind. Onefortyone 22:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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Can we get some more citation needed tags added to this article? There's still a few paragraphs that are readable.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.247.17.218 ( talk • contribs)
This image was recently uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and appears to be free of copyright. It looks like a good candidate for the top image to me (we should use free images at the top where availiable). Arniep 22:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
The article should explain that Presley overdosed on ten different drugs because he was going blind from glaucoma and feared he had bone cancer, plus the 10,000 drugs he had taken in 1977 alone had damaged his brain. It's a shame the autopsy report will not be published for some years to come. ... comment added at 22:51, 17 May 2006 by 195.93.21.65, a frequent contributor to this talk page who has been repeatedly and politely asked to sign his or her contributions with "~~~~"
No, it's all factual and from the Internet Movie Database: "In 1977 alone, his personal physician Dr George Constantine Nichopoulos (usually referred to as "Dr Nick") had prescribed 10,000 hits of amphetamines, barbiturates, narcotics, tranquilizers, sleeping pills, laxatives, and hormones for Presley." ... comment added at 17:06, 30 May 2006 by 195.93.21.65, a frequent contributor to this talk page who has been repeatedly and politely asked to sign his or her contributions with "~~~~"
Do you really think an online encyclopedia which anybody can edit is any more reliable? ... comment added at 20:09, 31 May 2006 by 195.93.21.65, a frequent contributor to this talk page who has been repeatedly and politely asked to sign his or her contributions with "~~~~"
On the contrary, I'm interested in seeing the truth told about Presley's sordid life and vastly overrated career. The very concept of an encyclopedia anybody can edit is stupid. ... comment added at 16:18, 1 June 2006 by 195.93.21.65, a frequent contributor to this talk page who has been repeatedly and politely asked to sign his or her contributions with "~~~~"
Presley is actually the second biggest selling recording artist in history, after Michael Jackson, and the article should be corrected thus. The official Elvis website makes it clear they can only account for half a billion record sales worldwide, and it is believed that Crosby too may still be ahead of Presley. ... comment added by 195.93.21.65, a frequent contributor to this talk page who has been repeatedly and politely asked to sign his or her contributions with "~~~~"
Presley's music, which he stole from black culture, sounds so unbelievably dated. Most teenagers have no idea who he was and would just laugh at his pathetic ruined career. Michael's music on the other hnad sounds like it was recorded yesterday. He has sold infinitely more records than Fat Man, and will launch an enormous comeback album at the end of 2007. ... contributed at 21:50, 22 May 2006 by 195.93.21.65, a frequent contributor to this talk page who has been repeatedly and politely asked to sign his or her contributions with "~~~~"
That spurious claim needs to be removed from the introduction, because both Michael Jackson and Bing Crosby have sold far more records, and that can be easily proven. Michael is the biggest selling solo artist in history, and Christmas continues to bring Bing ahead of Presley every year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.93.21.67 ( talk • contribs) 11:02, 3 June 2006
Fine. How about this:
category ---- Elvis Presley ----- Bing Crosby
weeks at #1 --------75 ----------------173
consecutive weeks at the #1 position ---16 (1956) --------- 23 (1944)
most songs in top 30 in one year -------10 (1956) --------- 27 (1939)
total points --------- 33,415 ------------125,899
acted in movies -----31 (no awards) ---- 60 (5 Academy Awards)
The ONLY thing Elvis fans can use is the fact that Elvis was awarded 51 gold or platinum records for recording sales, as compared to only 23 for Bing. However, the RCA did not begin certifying gold records until 1958. Who knows how many hundreds of unofficial gold and platinum records Bing would therefore qualify for? Bing was only available on 78s, yet he consistently sold far more than Presley when people had considerably less money to spend. "White Christmas" was the biggest selling single for 55 years, from 1942 until 1997. He was the first recipient of the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award, and was the biggest selling recording artist in history until the early 1980s, when Michael Jackson began to take over. More information can be found at http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/mus.htm. Bing Crosby, during the 1930s and 1940s, was more popular than Elvis Presley, the Beatles and Michael Jackson COMBINED.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.93.21.65 ( talk • contribs)
The introduction claims Presley is the biggest selling solo artist. This is in fact a complete falsehood, as both Bing Crosby and Michael Jackson have sold far more records worldwide. The spurious claim about Presley's sales needs to be removed immediately. ( 195.93.21.67 07:09, 4 June 2006 (UTC))
Even if Michael isn't the biggest selling solo artist, he has only released 5 albums. Elvis released like 500 and is not definitely the biggest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.93.21.65 ( talk • contribs)
There should be a paragraph on Elvis's sexual ambivalence in the article, as it is subject of several peer-reviewed studies.
There are many more academic studies of this kind. Onefortyone 22:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)