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Re: the Jerusalem Post and Jewish Telegraph Agency articles claiming Elvis had Jewish ancestry, one of the more prominent genealogists of Jewish genealogy disputes these claims http://jewishgenealogytoronto.com/2012/08/you-aint-nothin-but-a.html
Presley was not Jewish. Yes, some sources repeat a tall tale that Presley's third cousin told 20 years ago to a Jewish biographer of Presley. This cousin said that he and Presley shared a very remote Jewish maternal ancestor (a woman who lived in the early to mid 1800's)
This biographer did no further checking on this cousin's story. She just reported it as "fact."
A detailed check of available records shows that this maternal ancestor was not Jewish. Presley and his parents did share a two-family house in Memphis, Tenn. with a poor Orthodox rabbi and his family in the early '50s.
I spoke to the daughter of this rabbi. Her mother, the rabbi's wife, and Presley's mother, Gladys, were close friends. Gladys, her mother told her, never said a word about any Jewish ancestor. Her mother said that if Gladys had any knowledge of any Jewish ancestor, the mother was sure Gladys wouldn't have hesitated to mention it.
Presley worked for the rabbi's family, doing tasks Jews were not permitted to do on the Jewish Sabbath. He did this for free. The rabbi, in turn, did things like lend Presley his record player and arrange for a summer camp trip for Presley. When Presley hit it big, he made a major donation to the rabbi's religious school.
As I often tell people, the true story of the lovely relations between this rabbi's family and the Presley family is a more important and meaningful story than a story about Presley having a remote Jewish maternal ancestor.
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The disputed edit (I am assuming it is this one [1]) is sensationalist and unencyclopedic, in my opinion, even if the sourcing is legitimate. And I'd note that the source cited doesn't really support what the edit claims anyway. It makes it clear that while Elvis may have had some Jewish heritage, there really isn't sufficient evidence to suggest that either he or his mother considered themselves Jewish. The headstone had "a Star of David on one side and a cross on the other". Beyond that, the Jerusalem Post is reporting the opinions of Marchese, on the question. And Marchese makes it clear that it is 'Jewish heritage' that is being discussed, not Elvis or Elvis's mother being unequivocally Jewish. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 14:14, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Having sold over 500 million records worldwide, Presley is recognized as the best-selling solo music artist of all time by Guinness World Records. ( this is wrong)
PLEASE CHANGE TO Having sold over one billion records worldwide, Presley is recognized as the best-selling solo music artist of all time by Guinness World Records.
From the graceland website
RECORD SALES It is estimated that more than one billion Elvis Presley records have been sold worldwide. From his early sessions at Sun Records to the end of his career and beyond, Elvis albums and singles enjoyed strong sales across every format–vinyl, cassette, CD and digital. In America alone, Elvis has had 150 different albums and singles that have been certified gold, platinum or multi-platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), with more certifications expected as research into his past record sales continues and as current sales go on. It is estimated that 40% of Elvis Presley records have been sold outside the United States.
from a forbes article
Elvis Is Back With New Money Maker As U.S. Album Certifications Total 146.5 Million Mark Beech
The Elvis cash machine is spinning while his record company, Sony , says that his U.S. album sales alone have now exceeded 146.5 million. That figure is just part of the more than a billion records sold worldwide, making him the best-selling solo artist of all time. It seems we are still stuck on Elvis.
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Multiple sources state this
From sony records
https://www.sony.com/content/sony/en/en_us/SCA/company-news/press-releases/sony-corporation-of-america/2017/sony-music-and-estate-of-michael-jackson-renew-their-landmark-deal.html 32.209.183.254 ( talk) 14:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
from a forbes article
Elvis Is Back With New Money Maker As U.S. Album Certifications Total 146.5 Million Mark Beech
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markbeech/2018/04/07/elvis-is-back-with-new-money-maker-as-u-s-album-certifications-total-146-5-million/#:~:text=The%20Elvis%20cash%20machine%20is,solo%20artist%20of%20all%20time.14:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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Change "Elvis & Priscilla's first child, Elaine was conceived in Germany and born in Clacton, England at the Middlesex Military War Hospital, Holland Road, Colchester, Essex, United Kingdom at the end of 1959. (The Colchester Army Barracks and the Germany Barracks are both connected army bases.) Her birth certificate is December 11th, 1959 to Elvis Aaron Presley and Priscilla Ann Wagner. (This culminates from results of proof from 2017 and updated in 2021 via DNA and a seven year federal investigation.) [171][172][173][174]" to "" 92.196.38.29 ( talk) 12:56, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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Elvis’ mother was said to be Jewish, this was further supported in George Kleins book. I would like to see this in the “early life section” MichaelL030 ( talk) 13:41, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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1935–1953: Early years
Childhood in Tupelo Present-day photograph of a whitewashed house, about 15 feet wide. Four banistered steps in the foreground lead up to a roofed porch that holds a swing wide enough for two. The front of the house has a door and a single-paned window. The visible side of the house, about 30 feet long, has double-paned windows. Presley's birthplace in Tupelo, Mississippi Elvis Aaron Presley was born on January 8, 1935, in Tupelo, Mississippi, to Vernon Elvis (April 10, 1916 – June 26, 1979) and Gladys Love (née Smith; April 25, 1912 – August 14, 1958) Presley in a two-room shotgun house that his father built for the occasion.[6] Elvis's identical twin brother, Jesse Garon Presley, was delivered 35 minutes before him, stillborn.[7] Presley became close to both parents and formed an especially close bond with his mother. The family attended an Assembly of God church, where he found his initial musical inspiration.[8]
Vernon moved from one odd job to the next, showing little ambition.[17][18] The family often relied on help from neighbors and government food assistance. In 1938, they lost their home after Vernon was found guilty of altering a check written by his landowner and sometime-employer. He was jailed for eight months, while Gladys and Elvis moved in with relatives.[8] In September 1941, Presley entered first grade at East Tupelo Consolidated, where his teachers regarded him as "average".[19] He was encouraged to enter a singing contest after impressing his schoolteacher with a rendition of Red Foley's country song "Old Shep" during morning prayers. The contest, held at the Mississippi–Alabama Fair and Dairy Show on October 3, 1945, was his first public performance. The ten-year-old Presley was dressed as a cowboy; he stood on a chair to reach the microphone and sang "Old Shep". He recalled placing fifth.[20] A few months later, Presley received his first guitar for his birthday; he had hoped for something else—by different accounts, either a bicycle or a rifle.[21][22] Over the following year, he received basic guitar lessons from two of his uncles and the new pastor at the family's church. Presley recalled, "I took the guitar, and I watched people, and I learned to play a little bit. But I would never sing in public. I was very shy about it."[23] In September 1946, Presley entered a new school, Milam, for sixth grade; he was regarded as a loner. The following year, he began bringing his guitar to school on a daily basis. He played and sang during lunchtime, and was often teased as a "trashy" kid who played hillbilly music. By then, the family was living in a largely black neighborhood.[24] Presley was a devotee of Mississippi Slim's show on the Tupelo radio station WELO. He was described as "crazy about music" by Slim's younger brother, who was one of Presley's classmates and often took him into the station. Slim supplemented Presley's guitar instruction by demonstrating chord techniques.[25] When his protégé was twelve years old, Slim scheduled him for two on-air performances. Presley was overcome by stage fright the first time, but succeeded in performing the following week.[26] Teenage life in Memphis In November 1948, the family moved to Memphis, Tennessee. After residing for nearly a year in rooming houses, they were granted a two-bedroom apartment in the public housing complex known as the Lauderdale Courts.[27] Enrolled at L. C. Humes High School, Presley received only a C in music in eighth grade. When his music teacher told him that he had no aptitude for singing, he brought in his guitar the next day and sang a recent hit, "Keep Them Cold Icy Fingers Off Me", to prove otherwise. A classmate later recalled that the teacher "agreed that Elvis was right when he said that she didn't appreciate his kind of singing".[28] He was usually too shy to perform openly, and was occasionally bullied by classmates who viewed him as a "mama's boy".[29] In 1950, he began practicing guitar regularly under the tutelage of Lee Denson, a neighbor two and a half years his senior. They and three other boys—including two future rockabilly pioneers, brothers Dorsey and Johnny Burnette—formed a loose musical collective that played frequently around the Courts.[30] That September, he began working as an usher at Loew's State Theater.[31] Other jobs followed: Precision Tool, Loew's again, and MARL Metal Products.[32] Presley also helped Jewish neighbors, the Fruchters, by being their shabbos goy. During his junior year, Presley began to stand out more among his classmates, largely because of his appearance: he grew his sideburns and styled his hair with rose oil and Vaseline. In his free time, he would head down to Beale Street, the heart of Memphis's thriving blues scene, and gaze longingly at the wild, flashy clothes in the windows of Lansky Brothers. By his senior year, he was wearing those clothes.[33] Overcoming his reticence about performing outside the Lauderdale Courts, he competed in Humes' Annual "Minstrel" show in April 1953. Singing and playing guitar, he opened with "Till I Waltz Again with You", a recent hit for Teresa Brewer. Presley recalled that the performance did much for his reputation: "I wasn't popular in school ... I failed music—only thing I ever failed. And then they entered me in this talent show ... when I came onstage I heard people kind of rumbling and whispering and so forth, 'cause nobody knew I even sang. It was amazing how popular I became in school after that."[34] Presley, who received no formal music training and could not read music, studied and played by ear. He also frequented record stores that provided jukeboxes and listening booths to customers. He knew all of Hank Snow's songs,[35] and he loved records by other country singers such as Roy Acuff, Ernest Tubb, Ted Daffan, Jimmie Rodgers, Jimmie Davis, and Bob Wills.[36] The Southern gospel singer Jake Hess, one of his favorite performers, was a significant influence on his ballad-singing style.[37][38] He was a regular audience member at the monthly All-Night Singings downtown, where many of the white gospel groups that performed reflected the influence of African-American spiritual music.[39] He adored the music of black gospel singer Sister Rosetta Tharpe.[36] Like some of his peers, he may have attended blues venues—of necessity, in the segregated South, only on nights designated for exclusively white audiences.[40] He certainly listened to the regional radio stations, such as WDIA-AM, that played "race records": spirituals, blues, and the modern, backbeat-heavy sound of rhythm and blues.[41] Many of his future recordings were inspired by local African-American musicians such as Arthur Crudup and Rufus Thomas.[42][43] B.B. King recalled that he had known Presley before he was popular when they both used to frequent Beale Street.[44] By the time he graduated from high school in June 1953, Presley had already singled out music as his future. 64.99.240.42 ( talk) 12:32, 23 April 2022 (UTC) |
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Section #1.1.1 Childhood in Tupelo includes "In 1938, they lost their home after Vernon was found guilty of altering a check written by his landowner and sometime-employer. He was jailed for eight months, while Gladys and Elvis moved in with relatives". Apart from Vernon's brother-in-law and a friend also being involved and their being sentenced to 3 years, though Vernon was released after just over 8 months, the following from Dundy p.84 suggests Gladys decided to leave the house rather than their home having been lost:
"Gladys, as the long months passed, had grown more and more uncomfortable living next door to her father-in-law. ... Gladys did what family custom dictates ... . Lillian came to town and helped Gladys pack ..." [1]. Mcljlm ( talk) 01:32, 7 July 2022 (UTC) Mcljlm ( talk) 01:32, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
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Please correct Elvis' middle name. It was ARON with one A not AARON. 134.56.177.249 ( talk) 12:26, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
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I'm requesting a change to Elvis Presley's page: remove the claim stating that he had also "a partial Jewish ancestry" when the source that clarifies this is not reliable. The source itself (a Jewish article) claims that there are simply "speculations" that Elvis had also some Jewish heritage. In these cases we need references from books or interviews from the person himself. I haven't found in these instances that Elvis had indeed Jewish blood or heard anything from him confirming this.
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It should mention Gladys' Jewish ancestry.
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01:16, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Do people know that he had a brother who died in the age group of 1-10 nobody talks about him🤔 2601:402:C200:1CD0:342B:D935:F4D5:766C ( talk) 01:51, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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Elvis's middle name was Aron not Aaron 2603:6011:1241:6287:703C:8C44:D6F4:7A85 ( talk) 18:36, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
As someone else has said (on August 14, 2022: Elvis's middle name was "Aron", not "Aaron". Why have you not changed it? Balleen ( talk) 08:28, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
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Elvis’s middle name is Aron NOT Aaron 68.200.14.166 ( talk) 00:35, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
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Change cause to drug overdose Domeway ( talk) 01:56, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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Elaine Dundy, in her biography, supports the belief.
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Elvis was Jewish according to Rabbinical Halacha by maternal descent. [1] Historian and biographer Elaine Dundy writes about Elvis Aaron Presley’s Jewish heritage in her book Elvis and Gladys: "She [Martha] (Elvis's great grandmother) was the daughter of Abner and Nancy Burdine Tackett. According to Elvis's third cousin Oscar Tackett (who shared the same ancestors, Abner and Nancy Tackett) Nancy Burdine was Jewish. [2] It is believed her family immigrated to America from what is now Lithuania around the time of the American Revolution. [3] [4] Elvis was frequently photographed wearing a Chai necklace the Jewish symbol for “life” and a Star of David necklace. [5] [6] Elvis personally designed his mother’s tombstone to include a Star of David symbol. [7] Q2Learn ( talk) 06:39, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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Doesn’t fit the context of the article??? What are you saying? We are talking about ancestry and we bring up Elvis’s Cherokee descent in the Early Life section and so to bring up Jewish ancestry as well in a follow up sentence absolutely fits the “context.”
Secondly, the source for that Cherokee ancestry is Historian and biographer Elaine Dundy, who writes on the very next page (page 21) in her book that Elvis Great Great Grandmother was Nancy who was Jewish. So if it’s a reliable source and is relevant for Cherokee descent, then it’s a reliable source and relevant for Jewish ancestry as well.
As far as your issue with being excessively detailed, I am just quoting the book, and I can take out that last sentence of how they met but I think it’s important since Jewish people wish to know the ancestry to make a determination by Rabbi if he was indeed Jewish. In this case since it’s his Great Great Great Grand Mother by maternal descent he would in fact be considered Jewish by rabbinical law. Q2Learn ( talk) 14:41, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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HighlyLogicalVulcan made this change, which I reverted. This is a highly visible and visited article. You cannot just show up a change images on the fly. You'll need consensus to change an image that's been here for years. - FlightTime ( open channel) 20:15, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
No change - Here's your first consensus statement. - FlightTime ( open channel) 20:15, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
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He is the second best selling solo artist of all time, the first is actually Michael. 45.71.230.216 ( talk) 22:11, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Death stated as 1979 but I met him in 1987. Edit required. 2A00:23EE:1400:8B28:B24D:32D3:2311:A29B ( talk) 23:17, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi I was wondering if where it says cause of death if It can be changed to heart disease/ Heart attack since a Heart attack did also cause his death. Here is a link from the history channel also saying it was a heart attack. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/elvis-presley-dies Epicreaper933 ( talk) 06:02, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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Please Change Cause of death heart disease to cause of death heart disease (cardiac arrest) https://www.biography.com/news/elvis-presley-death-40-years-later https://www.bl.uk/learning/timeline/item105655.html https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/from-the-archives-the-day-elvis-presley-died-66304581675 Epicreaper933 ( talk) 10:43, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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In the sentence that begins, "On October 1, 1958, Presley was assigned to the 1st Medium Tank Battalion, 32d Armor, 3d Armored Division", I'd suggest that the more conventional presentation would be "32nd" and "3rd". The "3d" notation also appears in the description under the associated image of Presley in the Army (the image with the tank). So that's three total edits I'm proposing. Additionally, I wonder if the term "32nd Armor" is the most accurate term. The article linked to that calls it, more formally, the "32nd Cavalry Regiment". 208.90.130.236 ( talk) 17:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Elvis Aron Presley 76.103.46.208 ( talk) 00:55, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Elvis did NOT like his step mom he always thought that she didn't like him or anything about him. He always thought she just played it. He was right about her because after his sad death she wrote an entire book and article about what he did and how bad he was and how stupid. She is evil . He was always right about it. 96.35.102.132 ( talk) 15:41, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
The section " First Recordings (1953-1955)" includes the two sub-sections "Sam Phillips and Sun Records" and "Early live performances and RCA Victor contract". This poses a small problem of logical/semantic inconsistency: "live performances" and "contract" are not recordings. To solve it simply I propose to replace the title "First recordings (1953-1955)" with "Beginning of musical career (1953-1955)". Thus, the general term "career" would also include "first concerts" and "contract". Thank you. 10:52, 24 January 2023 (UTC) -- Tennesso ( talk) 10:52, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
I think it would make more sense if his cause of death is stated as "Heart problems" or "Heart complications" instead of the one we have now.
Some people (like me) don't agree that cardiac arrest is the cause of death, but we all know that it has something to do with his heart, as the article states that he had a enlarged heart. ☭MasterWolf-Æthelwulf☭ ( =^._.^= ∫) 19:09, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
I would like to add:
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Per the leads for Freddie Mercury and Elton John, should the lead for this article contain the following sentence - "His life and career were dramatised in the 2022 biopic Elvis."
The Elvis biopic, like the Queen and Elton biopics before it, is notable enough to mention in the lead of this article. 79.66.89.36 ( talk) 11:27, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
I have changed the wording to Having sold about 500 million records worldwide, Presley is one of the best-selling music artists of all time. The Guinness Book of Records is neither representative of the global recording industry nor tracking worldwide sales. The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry is responsible for this. What they do is simply collect the data from the record label and various recording industries. According to the Guinness Book of World Records "Elvis Presley (USA) is the best-selling solo artist, with 1 billion sales worldwide (129.5 million in the USA)." There is a consensus on the talk page of the list of best-selling artists to not use GWR as a source for record sales. As a result, we do not use any sales figures from the GWR unless it was confirmed by the respective bodies. This includes the 1Billion figure for Elvis Presley, 335 million for Madonna, and, 3.8 million for Michael Jacksons Thriller sales in Brazil. TheWikiholic ( talk) 14:12, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
"During the last years of his life he accepted the Islamic faith and died a Muslim." from the first paragraph.
This is not true and the result of a common joke that goes like this: "Elvis Presley considered converting to Islam before he died. He even settled on a Muslim name: Ahmal Shooq-Up." ( https://www.reddit.com/r/puns/comments/4jrbzi/elvis_presley_considered_converting_to_islam/) This is a pun on "I'm all shook up". There is no valid source for this claim of his faith.
In more ways than one these two greats came from a different place. Let the last word go to Paul McCartney himself. After he visited Graceland recently Paul was interviewed about his experience and he was quoted as saying' I used to think that it was us (the Beatles) who sold the most records, but I have seen the evidence for myself and there is no doubt it is Elvis'. 50.77.26.133 ( talk) 15:10, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Many early histories of Elvis emphasize the role of Colonel Parker in promoting Elvis early on and "encouraging" (some would say manipulating) him to pursue commercial success. The article only mentions "The Colonel" (as he was called at the time iirc) in passing in the lede; there is a detailed discussion in the body much later on, but it is under the misleading heading Associates>Colonel Parker and the Aberbachs, which sounds like just some obscure band Elvis might have performed with a few times, not his number one early manager. I would suggest that the Colonel, who played such an important role in Elvis' rise to fame, deserves at least a couple of sentences if not a full paragraph in the lede. However, I am not an Elvis historian, just someone who lived through the period, so, since this article has no doubt been through thousands of redaction sieves by editors much more knowledgeable than me, I will defer to others. -- D Anthony Patriarche ( talk) 21:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
The heading under Associates, Colonel Parker and the Aberbachs, is misleading, as mentioned above. First, it de-emphasizes the Colonel's role, which was that of a dominating & very actively promoting manager, not a mere associate, such as a friend or song writer. Some biographers even go so far as suggesting Elvis' rise to popularity and fame was entirely due to the Colonel's influence on him and vigorous promotion. Second, it overemphasizes the Aberbachs, who are mentioned only twice in the subsection, rather briefly. Overall, it makes it sound as though "Colonel Parker and the Aberbachs" was just some band that Elvis performed with occasionally. The article should give due prominence to the Colonel's crucial role, separate from any mere associates, perhaps moving the Colonel's activities to a new heading such as Managers or Management and promotion. The heading should remove "the Aberbachs", unless the subsection is expanded to describe more of their ongoing influence. -- D Anthony Patriarche ( talk) 22:36, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
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Please add in his identical twin brother, Jesse Garon Presley. He died at birth, and I think that t would be a good addition to this page. There is already a page for Jesse. 12345678910111213141516171819abc ( talk) 14:12, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
The article contains a lot of pictures, but none of them show Presley in his later years (after 1972). We are told that he gained a lot of weight and his health dramatically deteriorated after 1973 and especially by early 1977, but we are not shown his appearance. The commons category "Category:Elvis Presley by year" ends in 1973. I'm sure there must be a lot of pictures of him from 1975–1977 somewhere – he was a very famous, frequently photographed person and he continued to appear in public. It would be nice to have such a picture in the article. — BarrelProof ( talk) 21:45, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
I suggest illustrating the “1973-1977: Health deteriorations and death” with this image 83.52.72.57 ( talk) 07:09, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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"The horse named Palomino Rising Sun was Presley' favorite horse, and there are many photographs of him riding him" -> this lone sentence should be attached to the paragraph above it for aesthetic reason. It doesn't look good when a paragraph only has 1 sentence. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:75B7:3532:D2D:152B ( talk) 03:44, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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"She is one of three of the original staff members still working at the estate" -> "She is one of the three original staff members still working at the estate." This is redundant and simply just bad writing.
"there are many photographs of him riding him" -> "there are many photographs of Presley riding him." "Him riding him" is just bad writing. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:F938:1751:BD57:70EB ( talk) 17:16, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
I think an update on the amount of records Elvis has sold and needs to be changed to sold over an estimated one billion records. PaulfThorpe ( talk) 21:15, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
Starting with "Presley was born in Tupelo, Mississippi," that and the subsequent paragraph should be in the "Life and career" section. Skaizun ( talk) 15:45, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Tell me how does a featured article contain a “page too lengthy” banner which I don’t disagree with. Perhaps this should be re-evaluated for removing said status. I believe over the years users have added more content to the article. Unless we decided to trim back some minor/unimportant details and remove the banner. Tinton5 ( talk) 06:25, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
I included these because they seem relevant, i.e. Elvis' mother died young and his dad outlived him. Another editor has decided they are irrelevant and keeps deleting. They also seem to have a habit of deleting stuff in this article based on the conversations above. Jjazz76 ( talk) 02:05, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
At over 19k words of readable prose, this article is quite long and detailed. It would benefit from having some extraneous details removed (for example, Alene) and from being generally condensed throughout. Nikkimaria ( talk) 23:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
Some of my additions have recently been removed. I think this is not O.K. These different opinions are currently cited in the "cause of death" section of the article:
The following addition is necessary:
This addition reflects a view that has not been previously expressed in the article. It supports the opinion that both drug use and a violent heart attack caused Presley's sudden death. Drug use had caused constipation and when Elvis was sitting on the toilet the Valsalva maneuver had led to heart stoppage. According to Dr Dan Warlick, who was present at the autopsy, this is the best explanation of what happened. Dylan Jones emphasises that Elvis was sitting on the toilet when he died: "His light blue pyjamas were around his ankles." [3] In similar terms, Peter Guralnick writes that "Warlick found a stain on the bathroom carpeting … that seemed to indicate where Elvis had thrown up after being stricken, apparently while seated on the toilet" and that Presley's "large intestine was clogged with fecal matter, indicating a painful and longstanding bowel condition. The bowel condition alone would have strongly suggested … that drug use was heavily implicated in this unanticipated death of a middle-aged man with no known history of heart disease … It was certainly possible that he had been taken while 'straining at stool' …" [4]
Consequently, the "death" section needs the following addition:
In its present state, the article only says that Elvis's fiancée Ginger Alden discovered him in an unresponsive state on the bathroom floor of his Graceland mansion and that attempts to revive him failed. A short explanation of what may have caused his death, according to the mainstream biographers, is missing. ADogCalledElvis ( talk) 00:22, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Change the word “rape” to Priscilla’s original words of “forcefully made love”. She has made it clear that not only that it was an overstatement, but that wasn’t her intention when writing the book (check out her 2014 Guardian article), as that phrase could easily mean just rough sex. The idea of this being rape is all baseless innuendo and conjecture instead of a straightfoward claim or anything remotely resembling facts. 2600:1012:A021:CEFE:510F:A52C:A35D:16D1 ( talk) 15:14, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to ask for a rewritten version of Elvis Presley’s meeting with President Richard Nixon. This is because the framing of the section implies that Elvis genuinely believes in what he wrote and talked about with him, which is contested since there has been speculation that Presley scheduled this meeting just to add another badge to his drug collection, along with gaining the ability to carry whichever drugs and guns he wanted if he traveled internationally, and that he chose whichever buzzwords and flatteries he could get to get in. Jerry Schilling had stated that some of the stuff Presley said was true (namely his patriotism), while others was bluff, such as disliking the Beatles (he actually liked the Beatles and covered some of their songs before and after the incident). This is so readers won’t be confused and give context since this on it’s own comes it conflict with the rebellious and progressive (given his RS views on race, class, and sexual expression) figure that he conveys.
I also recommend for similar changes to be made on the wikipedia page of his FBI files about his letter to J. Edgar Hoover, since that happened while he was in Washington DC. 172.91.226.123 ( talk) 04:39, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi!! I hope everything is all right at your end. My only reason for addressing myself to the people in charge of the Presley page is to suggest they kindly take the view that the MAIN photo which is attached to the MAIN Presley article ought to be one which dovetails nicely with those of the majority of other people, namely a head, serious shot rather han a photo showing his full body. Not only does that photo of "Jailhouse Rock" totally look out of place when seen TOGETHER with those of other persons, even rockers, but it is not one which shows him in a manner commensurate with the seriousness applied to the editing of his article, let alone the massive number of views it received on a daily basis. Elvis Presley was deemed by the BBC 2, in a program in the first decade of this century as the onky musician worthy to be mentkined in their list of the world's most photographed. There are literally millions of photos of Presley and head shots are not in any way hard to find. Thios nis one I am taking the liberty to siggest. Taken at the mid point of his life, at the age of 22.
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Many thanks 200.62.78.122 ( talk) 18:08, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
In the opening of the article when talking about his breakthrough at RCA Victor, it’s brought up that “With a series of successful television appearances and chart-topping records, Presley became the leading figure of the newly popular rock and roll…” Which chart topping records are being referred to here that put him on the international cultural map, since Elvis had a LOT of hit records, with some being more lasting than others?
Same goes when bringing up his post-Army career in the early 60’s , as quoted “Drafted into military service in 1958, he relaunched his recording career two years later with some of his most commercially successful work.” What songs are being referred to here as well? 2600:1012:A021:CEFE:B8F4:D576:D737:BA44 ( talk) 19:18, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
please add that to his list of achievements 50.77.26.133 ( talk) 17:49, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
can we add this achievement in his bio please. 174.168.240.31 ( talk) 16:23, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Please add in his bio
In November 2016, Billboard has compiled a list of the top ten selling Christmas albums, using both RIAA certification information and actual point-of-sale data from Nielsen SoundScan. For albums released before SoundScan started collecting data in 1991, Billboard used their RIAA certification to determine sales. Elvis's Christmas Album (1970 version) / Elvis Presley ~ 10,000,000 174.168.240.31 ( talk) 14:49, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Change Aaron to Aron 69.117.174.43 ( talk) 05:32, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
I'm okay with keeping the criticism part, but not without also including things like a December 2020 comment he made where he called him the second coolest person he ever met. That's what he claimed in December 2020. I want a neutral editing which can include both praise and criticism. [3]
I am not the original person to include this even more reliable NME source which was found by another editor. Paul McCartney credited Elvis for being one of the inspirations the Sgt. Pepper record even in 2007. I thank them greatly. [4] Speakfor23 ( talk) 19:17, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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Elvis Aron Presley, not Aaron 2C0F:F4C0:B168:88D0:8C4B:5307:B9AE:90F1 ( talk) 23:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
I don't understand why there is not a separate article for the death of Elvis Presley. If there is an article for the death of Marilyn Monroe, there should be an article for the death of Elvis. DementiaGaming ( talk) 22:06, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1742006/Elvis-Presley-Michael-Jackson-Frank-Sinatra 174.168.240.31 ( talk) 22:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
There are multiple pictures that are better which show elvis at his prime. 174.168.240.31 ( talk) 11:39, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
t is estimated that more than one billion Elvis Presley records have been sold worldwide < https://www.graceland.com/achievements>, Guinness World Records recognizes him as the best-selling solo artist in the world.
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Re: the Jerusalem Post and Jewish Telegraph Agency articles claiming Elvis had Jewish ancestry, one of the more prominent genealogists of Jewish genealogy disputes these claims http://jewishgenealogytoronto.com/2012/08/you-aint-nothin-but-a.html
Presley was not Jewish. Yes, some sources repeat a tall tale that Presley's third cousin told 20 years ago to a Jewish biographer of Presley. This cousin said that he and Presley shared a very remote Jewish maternal ancestor (a woman who lived in the early to mid 1800's)
This biographer did no further checking on this cousin's story. She just reported it as "fact."
A detailed check of available records shows that this maternal ancestor was not Jewish. Presley and his parents did share a two-family house in Memphis, Tenn. with a poor Orthodox rabbi and his family in the early '50s.
I spoke to the daughter of this rabbi. Her mother, the rabbi's wife, and Presley's mother, Gladys, were close friends. Gladys, her mother told her, never said a word about any Jewish ancestor. Her mother said that if Gladys had any knowledge of any Jewish ancestor, the mother was sure Gladys wouldn't have hesitated to mention it.
Presley worked for the rabbi's family, doing tasks Jews were not permitted to do on the Jewish Sabbath. He did this for free. The rabbi, in turn, did things like lend Presley his record player and arrange for a summer camp trip for Presley. When Presley hit it big, he made a major donation to the rabbi's religious school.
As I often tell people, the true story of the lovely relations between this rabbi's family and the Presley family is a more important and meaningful story than a story about Presley having a remote Jewish maternal ancestor.
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The disputed edit (I am assuming it is this one [1]) is sensationalist and unencyclopedic, in my opinion, even if the sourcing is legitimate. And I'd note that the source cited doesn't really support what the edit claims anyway. It makes it clear that while Elvis may have had some Jewish heritage, there really isn't sufficient evidence to suggest that either he or his mother considered themselves Jewish. The headstone had "a Star of David on one side and a cross on the other". Beyond that, the Jerusalem Post is reporting the opinions of Marchese, on the question. And Marchese makes it clear that it is 'Jewish heritage' that is being discussed, not Elvis or Elvis's mother being unequivocally Jewish. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 14:14, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Having sold over 500 million records worldwide, Presley is recognized as the best-selling solo music artist of all time by Guinness World Records. ( this is wrong)
PLEASE CHANGE TO Having sold over one billion records worldwide, Presley is recognized as the best-selling solo music artist of all time by Guinness World Records.
From the graceland website
RECORD SALES It is estimated that more than one billion Elvis Presley records have been sold worldwide. From his early sessions at Sun Records to the end of his career and beyond, Elvis albums and singles enjoyed strong sales across every format–vinyl, cassette, CD and digital. In America alone, Elvis has had 150 different albums and singles that have been certified gold, platinum or multi-platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), with more certifications expected as research into his past record sales continues and as current sales go on. It is estimated that 40% of Elvis Presley records have been sold outside the United States.
from a forbes article
Elvis Is Back With New Money Maker As U.S. Album Certifications Total 146.5 Million Mark Beech
The Elvis cash machine is spinning while his record company, Sony , says that his U.S. album sales alone have now exceeded 146.5 million. That figure is just part of the more than a billion records sold worldwide, making him the best-selling solo artist of all time. It seems we are still stuck on Elvis.
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Multiple sources state this
From sony records
https://www.sony.com/content/sony/en/en_us/SCA/company-news/press-releases/sony-corporation-of-america/2017/sony-music-and-estate-of-michael-jackson-renew-their-landmark-deal.html 32.209.183.254 ( talk) 14:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
from a forbes article
Elvis Is Back With New Money Maker As U.S. Album Certifications Total 146.5 Million Mark Beech
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markbeech/2018/04/07/elvis-is-back-with-new-money-maker-as-u-s-album-certifications-total-146-5-million/#:~:text=The%20Elvis%20cash%20machine%20is,solo%20artist%20of%20all%20time.14:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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Change "Elvis & Priscilla's first child, Elaine was conceived in Germany and born in Clacton, England at the Middlesex Military War Hospital, Holland Road, Colchester, Essex, United Kingdom at the end of 1959. (The Colchester Army Barracks and the Germany Barracks are both connected army bases.) Her birth certificate is December 11th, 1959 to Elvis Aaron Presley and Priscilla Ann Wagner. (This culminates from results of proof from 2017 and updated in 2021 via DNA and a seven year federal investigation.) [171][172][173][174]" to "" 92.196.38.29 ( talk) 12:56, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
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Elvis’ mother was said to be Jewish, this was further supported in George Kleins book. I would like to see this in the “early life section” MichaelL030 ( talk) 13:41, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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Childhood in Tupelo Present-day photograph of a whitewashed house, about 15 feet wide. Four banistered steps in the foreground lead up to a roofed porch that holds a swing wide enough for two. The front of the house has a door and a single-paned window. The visible side of the house, about 30 feet long, has double-paned windows. Presley's birthplace in Tupelo, Mississippi Elvis Aaron Presley was born on January 8, 1935, in Tupelo, Mississippi, to Vernon Elvis (April 10, 1916 – June 26, 1979) and Gladys Love (née Smith; April 25, 1912 – August 14, 1958) Presley in a two-room shotgun house that his father built for the occasion.[6] Elvis's identical twin brother, Jesse Garon Presley, was delivered 35 minutes before him, stillborn.[7] Presley became close to both parents and formed an especially close bond with his mother. The family attended an Assembly of God church, where he found his initial musical inspiration.[8]
Vernon moved from one odd job to the next, showing little ambition.[17][18] The family often relied on help from neighbors and government food assistance. In 1938, they lost their home after Vernon was found guilty of altering a check written by his landowner and sometime-employer. He was jailed for eight months, while Gladys and Elvis moved in with relatives.[8] In September 1941, Presley entered first grade at East Tupelo Consolidated, where his teachers regarded him as "average".[19] He was encouraged to enter a singing contest after impressing his schoolteacher with a rendition of Red Foley's country song "Old Shep" during morning prayers. The contest, held at the Mississippi–Alabama Fair and Dairy Show on October 3, 1945, was his first public performance. The ten-year-old Presley was dressed as a cowboy; he stood on a chair to reach the microphone and sang "Old Shep". He recalled placing fifth.[20] A few months later, Presley received his first guitar for his birthday; he had hoped for something else—by different accounts, either a bicycle or a rifle.[21][22] Over the following year, he received basic guitar lessons from two of his uncles and the new pastor at the family's church. Presley recalled, "I took the guitar, and I watched people, and I learned to play a little bit. But I would never sing in public. I was very shy about it."[23] In September 1946, Presley entered a new school, Milam, for sixth grade; he was regarded as a loner. The following year, he began bringing his guitar to school on a daily basis. He played and sang during lunchtime, and was often teased as a "trashy" kid who played hillbilly music. By then, the family was living in a largely black neighborhood.[24] Presley was a devotee of Mississippi Slim's show on the Tupelo radio station WELO. He was described as "crazy about music" by Slim's younger brother, who was one of Presley's classmates and often took him into the station. Slim supplemented Presley's guitar instruction by demonstrating chord techniques.[25] When his protégé was twelve years old, Slim scheduled him for two on-air performances. Presley was overcome by stage fright the first time, but succeeded in performing the following week.[26] Teenage life in Memphis In November 1948, the family moved to Memphis, Tennessee. After residing for nearly a year in rooming houses, they were granted a two-bedroom apartment in the public housing complex known as the Lauderdale Courts.[27] Enrolled at L. C. Humes High School, Presley received only a C in music in eighth grade. When his music teacher told him that he had no aptitude for singing, he brought in his guitar the next day and sang a recent hit, "Keep Them Cold Icy Fingers Off Me", to prove otherwise. A classmate later recalled that the teacher "agreed that Elvis was right when he said that she didn't appreciate his kind of singing".[28] He was usually too shy to perform openly, and was occasionally bullied by classmates who viewed him as a "mama's boy".[29] In 1950, he began practicing guitar regularly under the tutelage of Lee Denson, a neighbor two and a half years his senior. They and three other boys—including two future rockabilly pioneers, brothers Dorsey and Johnny Burnette—formed a loose musical collective that played frequently around the Courts.[30] That September, he began working as an usher at Loew's State Theater.[31] Other jobs followed: Precision Tool, Loew's again, and MARL Metal Products.[32] Presley also helped Jewish neighbors, the Fruchters, by being their shabbos goy. During his junior year, Presley began to stand out more among his classmates, largely because of his appearance: he grew his sideburns and styled his hair with rose oil and Vaseline. In his free time, he would head down to Beale Street, the heart of Memphis's thriving blues scene, and gaze longingly at the wild, flashy clothes in the windows of Lansky Brothers. By his senior year, he was wearing those clothes.[33] Overcoming his reticence about performing outside the Lauderdale Courts, he competed in Humes' Annual "Minstrel" show in April 1953. Singing and playing guitar, he opened with "Till I Waltz Again with You", a recent hit for Teresa Brewer. Presley recalled that the performance did much for his reputation: "I wasn't popular in school ... I failed music—only thing I ever failed. And then they entered me in this talent show ... when I came onstage I heard people kind of rumbling and whispering and so forth, 'cause nobody knew I even sang. It was amazing how popular I became in school after that."[34] Presley, who received no formal music training and could not read music, studied and played by ear. He also frequented record stores that provided jukeboxes and listening booths to customers. He knew all of Hank Snow's songs,[35] and he loved records by other country singers such as Roy Acuff, Ernest Tubb, Ted Daffan, Jimmie Rodgers, Jimmie Davis, and Bob Wills.[36] The Southern gospel singer Jake Hess, one of his favorite performers, was a significant influence on his ballad-singing style.[37][38] He was a regular audience member at the monthly All-Night Singings downtown, where many of the white gospel groups that performed reflected the influence of African-American spiritual music.[39] He adored the music of black gospel singer Sister Rosetta Tharpe.[36] Like some of his peers, he may have attended blues venues—of necessity, in the segregated South, only on nights designated for exclusively white audiences.[40] He certainly listened to the regional radio stations, such as WDIA-AM, that played "race records": spirituals, blues, and the modern, backbeat-heavy sound of rhythm and blues.[41] Many of his future recordings were inspired by local African-American musicians such as Arthur Crudup and Rufus Thomas.[42][43] B.B. King recalled that he had known Presley before he was popular when they both used to frequent Beale Street.[44] By the time he graduated from high school in June 1953, Presley had already singled out music as his future. 64.99.240.42 ( talk) 12:32, 23 April 2022 (UTC) |
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Section #1.1.1 Childhood in Tupelo includes "In 1938, they lost their home after Vernon was found guilty of altering a check written by his landowner and sometime-employer. He was jailed for eight months, while Gladys and Elvis moved in with relatives". Apart from Vernon's brother-in-law and a friend also being involved and their being sentenced to 3 years, though Vernon was released after just over 8 months, the following from Dundy p.84 suggests Gladys decided to leave the house rather than their home having been lost:
"Gladys, as the long months passed, had grown more and more uncomfortable living next door to her father-in-law. ... Gladys did what family custom dictates ... . Lillian came to town and helped Gladys pack ..." [1]. Mcljlm ( talk) 01:32, 7 July 2022 (UTC) Mcljlm ( talk) 01:32, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
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Please correct Elvis' middle name. It was ARON with one A not AARON. 134.56.177.249 ( talk) 12:26, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
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I'm requesting a change to Elvis Presley's page: remove the claim stating that he had also "a partial Jewish ancestry" when the source that clarifies this is not reliable. The source itself (a Jewish article) claims that there are simply "speculations" that Elvis had also some Jewish heritage. In these cases we need references from books or interviews from the person himself. I haven't found in these instances that Elvis had indeed Jewish blood or heard anything from him confirming this.
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It should mention Gladys' Jewish ancestry.
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01:16, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Do people know that he had a brother who died in the age group of 1-10 nobody talks about him🤔 2601:402:C200:1CD0:342B:D935:F4D5:766C ( talk) 01:51, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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Elvis's middle name was Aron not Aaron 2603:6011:1241:6287:703C:8C44:D6F4:7A85 ( talk) 18:36, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
As someone else has said (on August 14, 2022: Elvis's middle name was "Aron", not "Aaron". Why have you not changed it? Balleen ( talk) 08:28, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
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Elvis’s middle name is Aron NOT Aaron 68.200.14.166 ( talk) 00:35, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
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Change cause to drug overdose Domeway ( talk) 01:56, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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Elvis was Jewish according to Rabbinical Halacha by maternal descent. [1] Historian and biographer Elaine Dundy writes about Elvis Aaron Presley’s Jewish heritage in her book Elvis and Gladys: "She [Martha] (Elvis's great grandmother) was the daughter of Abner and Nancy Burdine Tackett. According to Elvis's third cousin Oscar Tackett (who shared the same ancestors, Abner and Nancy Tackett) Nancy Burdine was Jewish. [2] It is believed her family immigrated to America from what is now Lithuania around the time of the American Revolution. [3] [4] Elvis was frequently photographed wearing a Chai necklace the Jewish symbol for “life” and a Star of David necklace. [5] [6] Elvis personally designed his mother’s tombstone to include a Star of David symbol. [7] Q2Learn ( talk) 06:39, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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Doesn’t fit the context of the article??? What are you saying? We are talking about ancestry and we bring up Elvis’s Cherokee descent in the Early Life section and so to bring up Jewish ancestry as well in a follow up sentence absolutely fits the “context.”
Secondly, the source for that Cherokee ancestry is Historian and biographer Elaine Dundy, who writes on the very next page (page 21) in her book that Elvis Great Great Grandmother was Nancy who was Jewish. So if it’s a reliable source and is relevant for Cherokee descent, then it’s a reliable source and relevant for Jewish ancestry as well.
As far as your issue with being excessively detailed, I am just quoting the book, and I can take out that last sentence of how they met but I think it’s important since Jewish people wish to know the ancestry to make a determination by Rabbi if he was indeed Jewish. In this case since it’s his Great Great Great Grand Mother by maternal descent he would in fact be considered Jewish by rabbinical law. Q2Learn ( talk) 14:41, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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HighlyLogicalVulcan made this change, which I reverted. This is a highly visible and visited article. You cannot just show up a change images on the fly. You'll need consensus to change an image that's been here for years. - FlightTime ( open channel) 20:15, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
No change - Here's your first consensus statement. - FlightTime ( open channel) 20:15, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
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He is the second best selling solo artist of all time, the first is actually Michael. 45.71.230.216 ( talk) 22:11, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Death stated as 1979 but I met him in 1987. Edit required. 2A00:23EE:1400:8B28:B24D:32D3:2311:A29B ( talk) 23:17, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi I was wondering if where it says cause of death if It can be changed to heart disease/ Heart attack since a Heart attack did also cause his death. Here is a link from the history channel also saying it was a heart attack. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/elvis-presley-dies Epicreaper933 ( talk) 06:02, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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Please Change Cause of death heart disease to cause of death heart disease (cardiac arrest) https://www.biography.com/news/elvis-presley-death-40-years-later https://www.bl.uk/learning/timeline/item105655.html https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/from-the-archives-the-day-elvis-presley-died-66304581675 Epicreaper933 ( talk) 10:43, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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In the sentence that begins, "On October 1, 1958, Presley was assigned to the 1st Medium Tank Battalion, 32d Armor, 3d Armored Division", I'd suggest that the more conventional presentation would be "32nd" and "3rd". The "3d" notation also appears in the description under the associated image of Presley in the Army (the image with the tank). So that's three total edits I'm proposing. Additionally, I wonder if the term "32nd Armor" is the most accurate term. The article linked to that calls it, more formally, the "32nd Cavalry Regiment". 208.90.130.236 ( talk) 17:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Elvis Aron Presley 76.103.46.208 ( talk) 00:55, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Elvis did NOT like his step mom he always thought that she didn't like him or anything about him. He always thought she just played it. He was right about her because after his sad death she wrote an entire book and article about what he did and how bad he was and how stupid. She is evil . He was always right about it. 96.35.102.132 ( talk) 15:41, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
The section " First Recordings (1953-1955)" includes the two sub-sections "Sam Phillips and Sun Records" and "Early live performances and RCA Victor contract". This poses a small problem of logical/semantic inconsistency: "live performances" and "contract" are not recordings. To solve it simply I propose to replace the title "First recordings (1953-1955)" with "Beginning of musical career (1953-1955)". Thus, the general term "career" would also include "first concerts" and "contract". Thank you. 10:52, 24 January 2023 (UTC) -- Tennesso ( talk) 10:52, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
I think it would make more sense if his cause of death is stated as "Heart problems" or "Heart complications" instead of the one we have now.
Some people (like me) don't agree that cardiac arrest is the cause of death, but we all know that it has something to do with his heart, as the article states that he had a enlarged heart. ☭MasterWolf-Æthelwulf☭ ( =^._.^= ∫) 19:09, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
I would like to add:
Twillisjr ( talk) 15:28, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Per the leads for Freddie Mercury and Elton John, should the lead for this article contain the following sentence - "His life and career were dramatised in the 2022 biopic Elvis."
The Elvis biopic, like the Queen and Elton biopics before it, is notable enough to mention in the lead of this article. 79.66.89.36 ( talk) 11:27, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
I have changed the wording to Having sold about 500 million records worldwide, Presley is one of the best-selling music artists of all time. The Guinness Book of Records is neither representative of the global recording industry nor tracking worldwide sales. The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry is responsible for this. What they do is simply collect the data from the record label and various recording industries. According to the Guinness Book of World Records "Elvis Presley (USA) is the best-selling solo artist, with 1 billion sales worldwide (129.5 million in the USA)." There is a consensus on the talk page of the list of best-selling artists to not use GWR as a source for record sales. As a result, we do not use any sales figures from the GWR unless it was confirmed by the respective bodies. This includes the 1Billion figure for Elvis Presley, 335 million for Madonna, and, 3.8 million for Michael Jacksons Thriller sales in Brazil. TheWikiholic ( talk) 14:12, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
"During the last years of his life he accepted the Islamic faith and died a Muslim." from the first paragraph.
This is not true and the result of a common joke that goes like this: "Elvis Presley considered converting to Islam before he died. He even settled on a Muslim name: Ahmal Shooq-Up." ( https://www.reddit.com/r/puns/comments/4jrbzi/elvis_presley_considered_converting_to_islam/) This is a pun on "I'm all shook up". There is no valid source for this claim of his faith.
In more ways than one these two greats came from a different place. Let the last word go to Paul McCartney himself. After he visited Graceland recently Paul was interviewed about his experience and he was quoted as saying' I used to think that it was us (the Beatles) who sold the most records, but I have seen the evidence for myself and there is no doubt it is Elvis'. 50.77.26.133 ( talk) 15:10, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Many early histories of Elvis emphasize the role of Colonel Parker in promoting Elvis early on and "encouraging" (some would say manipulating) him to pursue commercial success. The article only mentions "The Colonel" (as he was called at the time iirc) in passing in the lede; there is a detailed discussion in the body much later on, but it is under the misleading heading Associates>Colonel Parker and the Aberbachs, which sounds like just some obscure band Elvis might have performed with a few times, not his number one early manager. I would suggest that the Colonel, who played such an important role in Elvis' rise to fame, deserves at least a couple of sentences if not a full paragraph in the lede. However, I am not an Elvis historian, just someone who lived through the period, so, since this article has no doubt been through thousands of redaction sieves by editors much more knowledgeable than me, I will defer to others. -- D Anthony Patriarche ( talk) 21:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
The heading under Associates, Colonel Parker and the Aberbachs, is misleading, as mentioned above. First, it de-emphasizes the Colonel's role, which was that of a dominating & very actively promoting manager, not a mere associate, such as a friend or song writer. Some biographers even go so far as suggesting Elvis' rise to popularity and fame was entirely due to the Colonel's influence on him and vigorous promotion. Second, it overemphasizes the Aberbachs, who are mentioned only twice in the subsection, rather briefly. Overall, it makes it sound as though "Colonel Parker and the Aberbachs" was just some band that Elvis performed with occasionally. The article should give due prominence to the Colonel's crucial role, separate from any mere associates, perhaps moving the Colonel's activities to a new heading such as Managers or Management and promotion. The heading should remove "the Aberbachs", unless the subsection is expanded to describe more of their ongoing influence. -- D Anthony Patriarche ( talk) 22:36, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
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Please add in his identical twin brother, Jesse Garon Presley. He died at birth, and I think that t would be a good addition to this page. There is already a page for Jesse. 12345678910111213141516171819abc ( talk) 14:12, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
The article contains a lot of pictures, but none of them show Presley in his later years (after 1972). We are told that he gained a lot of weight and his health dramatically deteriorated after 1973 and especially by early 1977, but we are not shown his appearance. The commons category "Category:Elvis Presley by year" ends in 1973. I'm sure there must be a lot of pictures of him from 1975–1977 somewhere – he was a very famous, frequently photographed person and he continued to appear in public. It would be nice to have such a picture in the article. — BarrelProof ( talk) 21:45, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
I suggest illustrating the “1973-1977: Health deteriorations and death” with this image 83.52.72.57 ( talk) 07:09, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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"The horse named Palomino Rising Sun was Presley' favorite horse, and there are many photographs of him riding him" -> this lone sentence should be attached to the paragraph above it for aesthetic reason. It doesn't look good when a paragraph only has 1 sentence. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:75B7:3532:D2D:152B ( talk) 03:44, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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"She is one of three of the original staff members still working at the estate" -> "She is one of the three original staff members still working at the estate." This is redundant and simply just bad writing.
"there are many photographs of him riding him" -> "there are many photographs of Presley riding him." "Him riding him" is just bad writing. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:F938:1751:BD57:70EB ( talk) 17:16, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
I think an update on the amount of records Elvis has sold and needs to be changed to sold over an estimated one billion records. PaulfThorpe ( talk) 21:15, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
Starting with "Presley was born in Tupelo, Mississippi," that and the subsequent paragraph should be in the "Life and career" section. Skaizun ( talk) 15:45, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Tell me how does a featured article contain a “page too lengthy” banner which I don’t disagree with. Perhaps this should be re-evaluated for removing said status. I believe over the years users have added more content to the article. Unless we decided to trim back some minor/unimportant details and remove the banner. Tinton5 ( talk) 06:25, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
I included these because they seem relevant, i.e. Elvis' mother died young and his dad outlived him. Another editor has decided they are irrelevant and keeps deleting. They also seem to have a habit of deleting stuff in this article based on the conversations above. Jjazz76 ( talk) 02:05, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
At over 19k words of readable prose, this article is quite long and detailed. It would benefit from having some extraneous details removed (for example, Alene) and from being generally condensed throughout. Nikkimaria ( talk) 23:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
Some of my additions have recently been removed. I think this is not O.K. These different opinions are currently cited in the "cause of death" section of the article:
The following addition is necessary:
This addition reflects a view that has not been previously expressed in the article. It supports the opinion that both drug use and a violent heart attack caused Presley's sudden death. Drug use had caused constipation and when Elvis was sitting on the toilet the Valsalva maneuver had led to heart stoppage. According to Dr Dan Warlick, who was present at the autopsy, this is the best explanation of what happened. Dylan Jones emphasises that Elvis was sitting on the toilet when he died: "His light blue pyjamas were around his ankles." [3] In similar terms, Peter Guralnick writes that "Warlick found a stain on the bathroom carpeting … that seemed to indicate where Elvis had thrown up after being stricken, apparently while seated on the toilet" and that Presley's "large intestine was clogged with fecal matter, indicating a painful and longstanding bowel condition. The bowel condition alone would have strongly suggested … that drug use was heavily implicated in this unanticipated death of a middle-aged man with no known history of heart disease … It was certainly possible that he had been taken while 'straining at stool' …" [4]
Consequently, the "death" section needs the following addition:
In its present state, the article only says that Elvis's fiancée Ginger Alden discovered him in an unresponsive state on the bathroom floor of his Graceland mansion and that attempts to revive him failed. A short explanation of what may have caused his death, according to the mainstream biographers, is missing. ADogCalledElvis ( talk) 00:22, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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Change the word “rape” to Priscilla’s original words of “forcefully made love”. She has made it clear that not only that it was an overstatement, but that wasn’t her intention when writing the book (check out her 2014 Guardian article), as that phrase could easily mean just rough sex. The idea of this being rape is all baseless innuendo and conjecture instead of a straightfoward claim or anything remotely resembling facts. 2600:1012:A021:CEFE:510F:A52C:A35D:16D1 ( talk) 15:14, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to ask for a rewritten version of Elvis Presley’s meeting with President Richard Nixon. This is because the framing of the section implies that Elvis genuinely believes in what he wrote and talked about with him, which is contested since there has been speculation that Presley scheduled this meeting just to add another badge to his drug collection, along with gaining the ability to carry whichever drugs and guns he wanted if he traveled internationally, and that he chose whichever buzzwords and flatteries he could get to get in. Jerry Schilling had stated that some of the stuff Presley said was true (namely his patriotism), while others was bluff, such as disliking the Beatles (he actually liked the Beatles and covered some of their songs before and after the incident). This is so readers won’t be confused and give context since this on it’s own comes it conflict with the rebellious and progressive (given his RS views on race, class, and sexual expression) figure that he conveys.
I also recommend for similar changes to be made on the wikipedia page of his FBI files about his letter to J. Edgar Hoover, since that happened while he was in Washington DC. 172.91.226.123 ( talk) 04:39, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi!! I hope everything is all right at your end. My only reason for addressing myself to the people in charge of the Presley page is to suggest they kindly take the view that the MAIN photo which is attached to the MAIN Presley article ought to be one which dovetails nicely with those of the majority of other people, namely a head, serious shot rather han a photo showing his full body. Not only does that photo of "Jailhouse Rock" totally look out of place when seen TOGETHER with those of other persons, even rockers, but it is not one which shows him in a manner commensurate with the seriousness applied to the editing of his article, let alone the massive number of views it received on a daily basis. Elvis Presley was deemed by the BBC 2, in a program in the first decade of this century as the onky musician worthy to be mentkined in their list of the world's most photographed. There are literally millions of photos of Presley and head shots are not in any way hard to find. Thios nis one I am taking the liberty to siggest. Taken at the mid point of his life, at the age of 22.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/34/ea/29/34ea29dd492d09e49975fcd666bdc0fc.jpg
Many thanks 200.62.78.122 ( talk) 18:08, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
In the opening of the article when talking about his breakthrough at RCA Victor, it’s brought up that “With a series of successful television appearances and chart-topping records, Presley became the leading figure of the newly popular rock and roll…” Which chart topping records are being referred to here that put him on the international cultural map, since Elvis had a LOT of hit records, with some being more lasting than others?
Same goes when bringing up his post-Army career in the early 60’s , as quoted “Drafted into military service in 1958, he relaunched his recording career two years later with some of his most commercially successful work.” What songs are being referred to here as well? 2600:1012:A021:CEFE:B8F4:D576:D737:BA44 ( talk) 19:18, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
please add that to his list of achievements 50.77.26.133 ( talk) 17:49, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
can we add this achievement in his bio please. 174.168.240.31 ( talk) 16:23, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Please add in his bio
In November 2016, Billboard has compiled a list of the top ten selling Christmas albums, using both RIAA certification information and actual point-of-sale data from Nielsen SoundScan. For albums released before SoundScan started collecting data in 1991, Billboard used their RIAA certification to determine sales. Elvis's Christmas Album (1970 version) / Elvis Presley ~ 10,000,000 174.168.240.31 ( talk) 14:49, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Change Aaron to Aron 69.117.174.43 ( talk) 05:32, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
I'm okay with keeping the criticism part, but not without also including things like a December 2020 comment he made where he called him the second coolest person he ever met. That's what he claimed in December 2020. I want a neutral editing which can include both praise and criticism. [3]
I am not the original person to include this even more reliable NME source which was found by another editor. Paul McCartney credited Elvis for being one of the inspirations the Sgt. Pepper record even in 2007. I thank them greatly. [4] Speakfor23 ( talk) 19:17, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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Elvis Aron Presley, not Aaron 2C0F:F4C0:B168:88D0:8C4B:5307:B9AE:90F1 ( talk) 23:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
I don't understand why there is not a separate article for the death of Elvis Presley. If there is an article for the death of Marilyn Monroe, there should be an article for the death of Elvis. DementiaGaming ( talk) 22:06, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1742006/Elvis-Presley-Michael-Jackson-Frank-Sinatra 174.168.240.31 ( talk) 22:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
There are multiple pictures that are better which show elvis at his prime. 174.168.240.31 ( talk) 11:39, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
t is estimated that more than one billion Elvis Presley records have been sold worldwide < https://www.graceland.com/achievements>, Guinness World Records recognizes him as the best-selling solo artist in the world.
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1742006/Elvis-Presley-Michael-Jackson-Frank-Sinatra 174.168.240.31 ( talk) 12:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC)