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Okay, so "cross-pollinate" was the wrong term to use in my edit summary, but I couldn't, and still can't think of a good term to use. That aside, I really have to take issue with such a terse statement. Yes, Vim has been influenced by features that appeared in Elvis, but not what I'd call drastically. "Influenced vim development" is just too vague and--at least to me--implies more of an influence than there actually was. Vim has taken ideas from everywhere, including Emacs, CRiSP, SlickEdit, and so on. But some of the ideas that went into Vim were simply good ideas that happened to already exist in other editors. That is to say, they didn't get implemented because another editor had them.
Yes, of all the influences Vim has had, Elvis is (or was?--it doesn't look like it's currently being developed) perhaps the most significant, so I don't object to a statement like this one being made, but only if it's much more clearly stated. Am I wrong in thinking Vim also influenced Elvis in some things? I know Bram Moolenaar directly discussed feature ideas with the developer(s) of Elvis in the past.
Also, the link that got restored is still a dead link. I only got to see the content of that page by using Google's cache.
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The releases and changes on github appear to be just older versions which had already been released. Suggesting that the reader dig through the git-logs to verify (or disprove) this is out of scope for Wikipedia TEDickey ( talk) 20:05, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
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Okay, so "cross-pollinate" was the wrong term to use in my edit summary, but I couldn't, and still can't think of a good term to use. That aside, I really have to take issue with such a terse statement. Yes, Vim has been influenced by features that appeared in Elvis, but not what I'd call drastically. "Influenced vim development" is just too vague and--at least to me--implies more of an influence than there actually was. Vim has taken ideas from everywhere, including Emacs, CRiSP, SlickEdit, and so on. But some of the ideas that went into Vim were simply good ideas that happened to already exist in other editors. That is to say, they didn't get implemented because another editor had them.
Yes, of all the influences Vim has had, Elvis is (or was?--it doesn't look like it's currently being developed) perhaps the most significant, so I don't object to a statement like this one being made, but only if it's much more clearly stated. Am I wrong in thinking Vim also influenced Elvis in some things? I know Bram Moolenaar directly discussed feature ideas with the developer(s) of Elvis in the past.
Also, the link that got restored is still a dead link. I only got to see the content of that page by using Google's cache.
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The releases and changes on github appear to be just older versions which had already been released. Suggesting that the reader dig through the git-logs to verify (or disprove) this is out of scope for Wikipedia TEDickey ( talk) 20:05, 27 June 2018 (UTC)