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Air Vice MarshalEllis Wackett, the
RAAF's senior engineer from 1935 to 1959, was nicknamed "
Punch" for his prominent chin and nose?
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according to the Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 Record for Ellis Charles Wackett and Doreen Ivy Wackett, they lived at Pt. Cook. She has RAAF listed after her name, and "Home duties." Victoria, Corio, Werribee. Source: Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: Australian Electoral Commission. [Electoral roll].
According to the passenger list for SS Europa, sailing from Southhampton, September 29, 1934, the children were Shirley Sandle Wackett, age 5, and Stuart Lawrence Wackett, age 1, born in England. Charles Ellis W. is listed as a flight lt. Australian Air Force. The family appears to have been traveling with a nurse, Dorothy Jones. Wackett and his family (and nurse) are all designated "diplomat" on the ship's manifest.They arrived in New York City on 4 October 1934. Source: Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M237, 675 rolls); Records of the U.S. Customs Service, Record Group 36; National Archives, Washington, D.C. He and Doreen appear to have made another trip to somewhere, via the US, because they left on SS Montery from Melbourne, to California and arrived in Los Angeles on 15 May 1939. Source: Ancestry.com. California Passenger and Crew Lists, 1893-1957 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008.
There is also a record from 1938, on the Cunard White Star line, Britannic, from New York to South Hampton, of Ellis and Doreen Wackett, planning to live at the Australian House, on the Strand in London. 2 July 1939. Source: UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008. Original data: Board of Trade: Commercial and Statistical Department and successors: Inwards Passenger Lists. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA). Series BT26, 1,472 pieces.
additional electoral rolls also show her middle name as Ivy. In 1936, they are living in Victoria, Kooyong, Kew, with Alice Wackett, on Tregarron avenue. Source: Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: Australian Electoral Commission. [Electoral roll] And she is buried in Victoria, at the Kangaroo Ground (rural cemetery). Source: Australian Institute of Genealogical Studies (AIGS). Cemetery Transcriptions [CD]. Blackburn, Victoria, Australia: Australian Institute of Genealogical Studies.
Oh, and Shirley was a nurse: she went to London in 1954, and the passenger manifest lists her as a nurse. Ship name Otranto .:) UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008. Original data: Board of Trade: Commercial and Statistical Department and successors: Inwards Passenger Lists. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA). Series BT26, 1,472 pieces.
Auntieruth55 (
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01:31, 3 October 2009 (UTC)reply
Tks for all that, Ruth - your enthusiasm and investigative nose put me to shame! It's pretty low-level primary detail of course, so I'll mull over before considering what might be appropriate to add, but I really appreciate you taking the trouble to dig it all out... :-) Cheers,
Ian Rose (
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02:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)reply
that was not the intent, Ian. :) I'm never quite sure what original research means on Wikipedia. Sometimes it means drawing ones own conclusion from material, at other times, it seems to mean digging into the background. I usually do spot checking of the biographical dictionaries, just for "grins" and it's disgraceful how often some of them have mis-information.
Auntieruth55 (
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19:11, 3 October 2009 (UTC)reply
oh, and I suspect Alice Wackett may be the mother (Alice nee Lawrence)-- James doesn't appear on the electoral rolls so he may have died when the boys were young...?
Auntieruth55 (
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19:12, 3 October 2009 (UTC) I am Ellis Charles Wackett's granddaughter, yes, that's right, James died when the children were young. My elderly father may be able to help with some gaps here if you are interested. ~bronwyn kirby~reply
Doreen Dove's father Thomas was a military guy. On Montreal to Liverpool, June 20 1927,ship name Megantic (White STar Line) ship's passenger list, he and Doreen are listed as Military. His objective is Croydon, hers is Grosvenor Road, possibly also in Croyden? Source: UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008. Original data: Board of Trade: Commercial and Statistical Department and successors: Inwards Passenger Lists. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA). Series BT26, 1,472 pieces. Stewart L. Wackett's birth was registered in April-May-June 1933. In the district of Andover. Source: Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008. Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office.
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according to the Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 Record for Ellis Charles Wackett and Doreen Ivy Wackett, they lived at Pt. Cook. She has RAAF listed after her name, and "Home duties." Victoria, Corio, Werribee. Source: Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: Australian Electoral Commission. [Electoral roll].
According to the passenger list for SS Europa, sailing from Southhampton, September 29, 1934, the children were Shirley Sandle Wackett, age 5, and Stuart Lawrence Wackett, age 1, born in England. Charles Ellis W. is listed as a flight lt. Australian Air Force. The family appears to have been traveling with a nurse, Dorothy Jones. Wackett and his family (and nurse) are all designated "diplomat" on the ship's manifest.They arrived in New York City on 4 October 1934. Source: Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M237, 675 rolls); Records of the U.S. Customs Service, Record Group 36; National Archives, Washington, D.C. He and Doreen appear to have made another trip to somewhere, via the US, because they left on SS Montery from Melbourne, to California and arrived in Los Angeles on 15 May 1939. Source: Ancestry.com. California Passenger and Crew Lists, 1893-1957 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008.
There is also a record from 1938, on the Cunard White Star line, Britannic, from New York to South Hampton, of Ellis and Doreen Wackett, planning to live at the Australian House, on the Strand in London. 2 July 1939. Source: UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008. Original data: Board of Trade: Commercial and Statistical Department and successors: Inwards Passenger Lists. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA). Series BT26, 1,472 pieces.
additional electoral rolls also show her middle name as Ivy. In 1936, they are living in Victoria, Kooyong, Kew, with Alice Wackett, on Tregarron avenue. Source: Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: Australian Electoral Commission. [Electoral roll] And she is buried in Victoria, at the Kangaroo Ground (rural cemetery). Source: Australian Institute of Genealogical Studies (AIGS). Cemetery Transcriptions [CD]. Blackburn, Victoria, Australia: Australian Institute of Genealogical Studies.
Oh, and Shirley was a nurse: she went to London in 1954, and the passenger manifest lists her as a nurse. Ship name Otranto .:) UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008. Original data: Board of Trade: Commercial and Statistical Department and successors: Inwards Passenger Lists. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA). Series BT26, 1,472 pieces.
Auntieruth55 (
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01:31, 3 October 2009 (UTC)reply
Tks for all that, Ruth - your enthusiasm and investigative nose put me to shame! It's pretty low-level primary detail of course, so I'll mull over before considering what might be appropriate to add, but I really appreciate you taking the trouble to dig it all out... :-) Cheers,
Ian Rose (
talk)
02:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)reply
that was not the intent, Ian. :) I'm never quite sure what original research means on Wikipedia. Sometimes it means drawing ones own conclusion from material, at other times, it seems to mean digging into the background. I usually do spot checking of the biographical dictionaries, just for "grins" and it's disgraceful how often some of them have mis-information.
Auntieruth55 (
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19:11, 3 October 2009 (UTC)reply
oh, and I suspect Alice Wackett may be the mother (Alice nee Lawrence)-- James doesn't appear on the electoral rolls so he may have died when the boys were young...?
Auntieruth55 (
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19:12, 3 October 2009 (UTC) I am Ellis Charles Wackett's granddaughter, yes, that's right, James died when the children were young. My elderly father may be able to help with some gaps here if you are interested. ~bronwyn kirby~reply
Doreen Dove's father Thomas was a military guy. On Montreal to Liverpool, June 20 1927,ship name Megantic (White STar Line) ship's passenger list, he and Doreen are listed as Military. His objective is Croydon, hers is Grosvenor Road, possibly also in Croyden? Source: UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008. Original data: Board of Trade: Commercial and Statistical Department and successors: Inwards Passenger Lists. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA). Series BT26, 1,472 pieces. Stewart L. Wackett's birth was registered in April-May-June 1933. In the district of Andover. Source: Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008. Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office.
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