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A great book to read about all this information in a story form is Second Daughter: The Story of a Slave Girl By: Mildred Pitts Walter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.81.29.240 ( talk • contribs) 22:28, 28 May 2009
Freeman was the great-grandmother (by marriageher daughter Betsy was 2nd wife to his mother's the blood great-grandfather) of the historian
W. E. B. Du Bois. Du Bois claimed Freeman as his great-grandmother (without fully disclosing the relationship) and she likely had an influence on his life through his parents and grandparents. It is not clear to me that this is important enough to include in this article, but if we do, we should be clear that it is not a blood relationship.
Joja
lozzo 19:13, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
The MOS for possessives has several options all of which are acceptable. The only MOS requirement is consistency. Given that W.E.B. Du Bois pronounced his last name to rhyme with "voice" I am ok with the proposed Du Bois's form. Joja lozzo 17:35, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
I reverted an edit that puts the target of Hannah's aggression as sister Lizzie instead of daughter Betsy. The main source of this being Lizzie is Sedgewick which is a second hand report, reworked as an illustrative story in a magazine article. Piper and Levinson's research on this topic is authoritative: no such person as Lizzie has been shown to have existed. Sedgewick's report likely reflects the social norms of the her time where a daughter out of wedlock was better framed as a younger sister. Joja lozzo 18:22, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 00:17, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
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mum bett was a good person. she was thhe first black slave to sue for her freedom. this was written by a 4th grader in newark,nj. 67.82.160.51 ( talk) 22:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC) |
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It seems that the page should be reorganized to improve clarity. Would breaking up the Biography section into smaller subsections on Early Years, Freedom Lawsuit, Later Years, etc. be useful in improving the structure of the article? Reshmijpatel6 ( talk) 01:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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A great book to read about all this information in a story form is Second Daughter: The Story of a Slave Girl By: Mildred Pitts Walter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.81.29.240 ( talk • contribs) 22:28, 28 May 2009
Freeman was the great-grandmother (by marriageher daughter Betsy was 2nd wife to his mother's the blood great-grandfather) of the historian
W. E. B. Du Bois. Du Bois claimed Freeman as his great-grandmother (without fully disclosing the relationship) and she likely had an influence on his life through his parents and grandparents. It is not clear to me that this is important enough to include in this article, but if we do, we should be clear that it is not a blood relationship.
Joja
lozzo 19:13, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
The MOS for possessives has several options all of which are acceptable. The only MOS requirement is consistency. Given that W.E.B. Du Bois pronounced his last name to rhyme with "voice" I am ok with the proposed Du Bois's form. Joja lozzo 17:35, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
I reverted an edit that puts the target of Hannah's aggression as sister Lizzie instead of daughter Betsy. The main source of this being Lizzie is Sedgewick which is a second hand report, reworked as an illustrative story in a magazine article. Piper and Levinson's research on this topic is authoritative: no such person as Lizzie has been shown to have existed. Sedgewick's report likely reflects the social norms of the her time where a daughter out of wedlock was better framed as a younger sister. Joja lozzo 18:22, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. -- BDD ( talk) 00:17, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
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END: Move from WP:RMTR
*'''Support'''
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mum bett was a good person. she was thhe first black slave to sue for her freedom. this was written by a 4th grader in newark,nj. 67.82.160.51 ( talk) 22:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC) |
Last edited at 00:19, 8 February 2014 (UTC). Substituted at 14:21, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
It seems that the page should be reorganized to improve clarity. Would breaking up the Biography section into smaller subsections on Early Years, Freedom Lawsuit, Later Years, etc. be useful in improving the structure of the article? Reshmijpatel6 ( talk) 01:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)