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Can you cite a source for the Helios > Elias etymology? It's pretty well established that Elias is simply the Greek version of Elijah. The Hebrew suffix -yahu, rendered -iah or -jah in English is consistently replaced with -ias in Greek, as seen in Isaiah/Esaias, Jeremiah/Jeremias, etc. Pterodactyler 17:17, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Elias 14:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
"Elias" cannot be derived from the Greek "Helios" becaise the initial /h/ is missing. More precisely, Ancient Greek: Ἠλίας, romanized: Elias is written with a spiritus lenis, whereas Ancient Greek: Ἥλιος, romanized: Helios is written with a spiritus asper. Andreas (T) 20:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
I have been told - my name being "Elias" (read my username backwards...) - that "Elias" is a persian word, meaning something along the lines of "Wisee man". Can anyone verify this? Saile 22:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
I made some edits - mostly adding a blockquote from Fermor's book "Mani" - but it appears that content after this blockquote no longer shows. It's in the actual page if you edit it, so I am thinking it has someting to do with the template perhaps? 58.110.150.171 11:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Elias is correct. To say that Elias came from Ἥλιος is silly. It's the kind of paretymology that's quite understandable (even charming) among the folk or in the middle ages, but really indefensible nowadays. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tzetzes ( talk • contribs) 03:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The identification of Elias with Helios seems probalbe, but has to be backed by reliable sources. Notice that Ἥλιος = Helios has a spiritus asper (meaning that the /h/ was pronounced), whereas Ἠλίας = Elias has a spiritus lenis. However, at the time when Christianity arose, the difference in the pronunciation had disappeared. Andreas (T) 14:33, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Over the years of existece of this article, there have been many edits, mostly by anonymous editors, to remove any connection betseen "Elias" anad "Elijah" or "Elijahu". This has been recurrenly done in the previous two months by 108.6.177.184 , 71.183.45.196 , 205.157.206.29 , 74.101.165.59 (the latter starting 7 Mat 2011). These edits are most probably done by editors of Mormon faith. No explanation has ever been given at the discussion page. The distinction of Elias and the prophet Elijah made by mormons is however explained in the Elijah article.
See also my edit at
Talk:Elijah.
Andreas
(T)
17:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello, i'm trying to add Elias Parish-Alvars to the list but the wiki article says that it can be spelled with or without the hyphen. Should i place it in the A's or in the P's? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.2.192.154 ( talk) 22:56, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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Can you cite a source for the Helios > Elias etymology? It's pretty well established that Elias is simply the Greek version of Elijah. The Hebrew suffix -yahu, rendered -iah or -jah in English is consistently replaced with -ias in Greek, as seen in Isaiah/Esaias, Jeremiah/Jeremias, etc. Pterodactyler 17:17, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Elias 14:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
"Elias" cannot be derived from the Greek "Helios" becaise the initial /h/ is missing. More precisely, Ancient Greek: Ἠλίας, romanized: Elias is written with a spiritus lenis, whereas Ancient Greek: Ἥλιος, romanized: Helios is written with a spiritus asper. Andreas (T) 20:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
I have been told - my name being "Elias" (read my username backwards...) - that "Elias" is a persian word, meaning something along the lines of "Wisee man". Can anyone verify this? Saile 22:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
I made some edits - mostly adding a blockquote from Fermor's book "Mani" - but it appears that content after this blockquote no longer shows. It's in the actual page if you edit it, so I am thinking it has someting to do with the template perhaps? 58.110.150.171 11:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Elias is correct. To say that Elias came from Ἥλιος is silly. It's the kind of paretymology that's quite understandable (even charming) among the folk or in the middle ages, but really indefensible nowadays. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tzetzes ( talk • contribs) 03:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The identification of Elias with Helios seems probalbe, but has to be backed by reliable sources. Notice that Ἥλιος = Helios has a spiritus asper (meaning that the /h/ was pronounced), whereas Ἠλίας = Elias has a spiritus lenis. However, at the time when Christianity arose, the difference in the pronunciation had disappeared. Andreas (T) 14:33, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Over the years of existece of this article, there have been many edits, mostly by anonymous editors, to remove any connection betseen "Elias" anad "Elijah" or "Elijahu". This has been recurrenly done in the previous two months by 108.6.177.184 , 71.183.45.196 , 205.157.206.29 , 74.101.165.59 (the latter starting 7 Mat 2011). These edits are most probably done by editors of Mormon faith. No explanation has ever been given at the discussion page. The distinction of Elias and the prophet Elijah made by mormons is however explained in the Elijah article.
See also my edit at
Talk:Elijah.
Andreas
(T)
17:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello, i'm trying to add Elias Parish-Alvars to the list but the wiki article says that it can be spelled with or without the hyphen. Should i place it in the A's or in the P's? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.2.192.154 ( talk) 22:56, 30 October 2021 (UTC)