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only the Kramer theory makes it look like it is the dominant theory and approach to character in this opera. It is not, nor is it in Salome. It needs more context and contrast. Having one theorist means nothing. As in all Strauss, the psychological elements are meant to provoke and so there are many approaches and opinions. This needs to be made clear if there is to be a Criticism section. (Personally, I think that Kramer theory is so reductionist for something so emotionally deep and real.) -- scazza (talk) 15:53, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Frankly, I think the Kramer theory is rather obscure. It hardly needs to be mentioned. SG —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.48.22.205 ( talk) 02:57, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
"Klytaemnestra (Clytemnestra), helped by her paramour Aegisth (Aegisthus), has secured the murder of her husband, Agamemnon, and now is afraid that her guilt will be discovered by her children"
This isn't accurate. The children know about the guilt perfectly well and two of them want to kill her for it; that's the whole point of the plot. CharlesTheBold ( talk) 03:12, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
When I came to this site, I wanted to see Electra - not the f… boring composer. It is simply ridiculous that every opera by Strauss is illustrated by Mr. Strauss himself. I want to see ELEKTRA - but NOT Mr. Strauss.-- Meister und Margarita ( talk) 23:44, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Elektra | |
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Opera by Richard Strauss | |
Librettist | Hugo von Hofmannsthal |
Language | German |
Premiere | 25 January 1909
Semperoper, Dresden |
Looking at Salome, I suggest something like this, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
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Last edited at 04:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 14:19, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
A specific chord used as a motif in one piece doesn't need its own article unless significant discussion exists about it, which this one doesn't have. — TechnoSquirrel69 ( sigh) 16:36, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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only the Kramer theory makes it look like it is the dominant theory and approach to character in this opera. It is not, nor is it in Salome. It needs more context and contrast. Having one theorist means nothing. As in all Strauss, the psychological elements are meant to provoke and so there are many approaches and opinions. This needs to be made clear if there is to be a Criticism section. (Personally, I think that Kramer theory is so reductionist for something so emotionally deep and real.) -- scazza (talk) 15:53, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Frankly, I think the Kramer theory is rather obscure. It hardly needs to be mentioned. SG —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.48.22.205 ( talk) 02:57, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
"Klytaemnestra (Clytemnestra), helped by her paramour Aegisth (Aegisthus), has secured the murder of her husband, Agamemnon, and now is afraid that her guilt will be discovered by her children"
This isn't accurate. The children know about the guilt perfectly well and two of them want to kill her for it; that's the whole point of the plot. CharlesTheBold ( talk) 03:12, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
When I came to this site, I wanted to see Electra - not the f… boring composer. It is simply ridiculous that every opera by Strauss is illustrated by Mr. Strauss himself. I want to see ELEKTRA - but NOT Mr. Strauss.-- Meister und Margarita ( talk) 23:44, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Elektra | |
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Opera by Richard Strauss | |
Librettist | Hugo von Hofmannsthal |
Language | German |
Premiere | 25 January 1909
Semperoper, Dresden |
Looking at Salome, I suggest something like this, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 12:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Elektra (opera)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
==Assessment== |
Last edited at 04:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 14:19, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
A specific chord used as a motif in one piece doesn't need its own article unless significant discussion exists about it, which this one doesn't have. — TechnoSquirrel69 ( sigh) 16:36, 26 April 2024 (UTC)