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I miss Gershon Kingsley on this page. I hope someone with enough knowledge will give him a mention later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.211.173.214 ( talk) 20:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Why doesn't this article have a single mention of Hugh Lecaine? He's an important figure int he history of electronic music and now considered to be the inventor of the first true synthesizer, yet he doesn't get a mention? Revmagpie ( talk) 23:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't Raymond Scott's Circle Machine pre-date the RCA Mark II Sound Synthesizer as the first sequencer? Also, doesn't Manhattan Research Inc (est. 1946) deserve a mention (Didn't Bob Moog get his start there?), along with the Clavivox, which Moog credited as an engineering blueprint for his first synth? (Not being snarky with the questions...I'm just learning about the history of electronic music - pre-Kraftwerk and Walter/Wendy Carlos that is :P ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.183.16.136 ( talk) 22:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
The Wire magazine claims this Egyptian as the founder of purely electronic music, based on a (now lost) 1944 piece called Ta'abir al-Zaar. Should this be mentioned? Totnesmartin 15:22, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
how very convenient for that particular clique of know-it-alls that the piece is "lost". instead of making things up to seem clever, they should be lamenting the lack of content on the wikipedia electronic music page about raymond scott & manhattan project, & perhaps honourable mentions for paul beaver & bernie krause.
This article could be more properly renamed Electronics and popular music; the term Electronic art music is not largely used as it is believed here at Wikipedia, indeed, that article's main source (see Talk:Electronic art music) refers to its subject as electronic music; this is blatantly true. Oh, soon the mastodonts will shout, poor creatures....-- Doktor Who 22:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Foreign language links are usually inappropriate for the english language wikipedia. An inter-wiki link to the french article is fine. See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(links)#Foreign-language_sites and Wikipedia:External links. ∴ here… ♠ 18:56, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Here's comments about the foreign language links. Most readers of the English Wikipedia cannot use that informtion, and it's distracting. That said, if the link is strongly relevant and there are not English resources that can be used, then it would be OK. But in this case there's lots of information available in English on this topic. Also as Here noted, an interwiki link to the the French article would be appropriate, but in this case I visited the French Wikipedia and could not find a link to that website even there. I don't read much French, but enough that I could review the related articles to look for it.
So, I concur with Here's removal of the re-added link.
On the other hand, I also agree with Limowreck that spam links have been a problem in this article. And in particular, I agree that the synthtopia link is a commercial website and does not provide valuable information for Wikipedia, so I have deleted that link. -- Parzival418 Hello 19:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Someone has been through this article and rather over-zealously added 'citation required' links to almost everything that could be factually inaccurate. Unfortunately, most of it is widely accepted (E.g. Delia Derbyshire's involvement in the Doctor Who theme and Keith Emerson's use of synthesizers on tour) and consequently the links are a nuisance. Whilst it makes sense to back up doubtful statements with a citation, the same does not apply to every single fact. I should be able to write 'The moon orbits the earth' without having to cite Galileo or NASA! Electricdruid 13:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
There is discussion about redirecting or merging Electronica to this article at Electronic music. The discussion is at this link: on the Electronica talk page. An editor has stated the intention to make this change quickly, so if anyone wants to enter comments, now would be the time. The editor has already moved Electronic art music to Electronic music (classical) without consensus or wider discussion. I am posting this as a neutral Request for Comment without involving my own opinions on this, to invite editors from related music pages to participate in the discussion. -- Parsifal Hello 06:23, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
UpdateAfter the above post, the editor redirected both Electronica and Electronic dance music to Electronic music (dance & popular), causing the two separate topics to be merged in a confusing way. Those changes were reverted by several editors, according to consensus, as of the time I write this. Of course, that might change again, so you may find the discussions at any of those page titles. The above discussion has since been closed with clear consensus to keep the separate article title Electronica. Parsifal Hello 03:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC) |
Currently, there is a discussion about the content of the Electronica article on its talk page, here. Comments invited. -- Parsifal Hello 19:37, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
throwing this out there for the sake of getting opinions. Is CM an anachronistic term, isn't electronic and computer music essentially one in the same at this stage? Is computer music simply a historic sub-category of electronic music? In academia the distinction is clearer, but the use of computer technology in music creation is now almost ubiquitous in the popular music domain so what distinctions should be made here? From a practical stand point the Computer music article has not been expanded or improved greatly over time so it may function more effectively as a sub-section within the electronic music article. Semitransgenic ( talk) 12:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Who messed this article up? Somebody needs to fix it. And, redirect electronica and electronic dance music to electronic music. It's all the same thing. Auto Racing Fan ( talk) 15:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
It is not the same however, that such branches are part of general Electronic Music is correct GtRyz ( talk) 01:08, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
In the first part of the article, it compares Edison's invention with Raymond Scott's in the use of cylinders. If anyone knows which one it is, please put in the necessary explanation/hyperlink, I'm curious. -- JDitto ( talk) 16:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The following is largely erroneous and not supported by the citation provided: Today, the term electronic music serves to differentiate music that uses electronics as its focal point or inspiration, from music that uses electronics mainly in service of creating an intended production that may have some electronic elements in the sound but does not focus upon them. Semitransgenic ( talk) 17:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
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I contest vividly the image used by the paragraph "The 2000s" and labelled as "a performance using electronic instruments"; although the labelling is vague enough, the image clearly depicts a deejay mixing MP3s with his laptop and also CDs using a simple audio mixing board and 2 Pioneer CD players, so it cannot be representative of anything in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.161.177.141 ( talk) 12:50, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Currently, the article, and Wikipedia in general, doesn't say much about this matter. The only exceptions I've come across are these pages: German electronic music, Suomisaundi. Since the '80s there have emerged many regional scenes (especially in Europe) of various forms of electronic music, so "localized" info describing them is needed. If this is thought to be far beyond the scope of this article, I'd propose to create a template called "Electronic music around the world" (compare with {{World punk}}: "Punk music around the world") and articles on each notable scene be created as part of the a "providing content to the template" project. Omnipedian ( talk) 05:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Is this article written by senior citizens? 'Electronic music is so popular today that it is even played in nightclubs', by god, this happened in the 70's! Almost all music in nightclubs is completely electronic apart form the vocals. Also, 'advances in microprocessor technology increased viability of digital music production', what? 'advances in microprocessor technology', another sentence from the 80's, this stuff is laughably out of date and supplies us with no real information.
I'm also very much in favor of a page or section dedicated to 'electronic music around the world' as the above commenter suggests; I'm personally from Europe and there's indeed many, very interesting and potent regional sounds that deserve attention. A lot of stuff now going strong in Europe has it's roots in the US; techno, hiphop, house all emerged from there, so I presume there's still something interesting going on Statesside as well? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.50.144.73 ( talk) 19:18, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Absolutely horrible article, just the history is covered, what about the genres? the sound? examples? famous groups? 80.219.20.147 ( talk) 11:47, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Is there a page for the following music:
-Elctro by Autopilot -Helium Disco by -Unknown-
Darkened wiki ( talk) 16:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Is there a page for the following music:
-Electronica by Plague Doktor -Electronic music composer St. Richard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.239.8.90 ( talk) 19:04, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
This article is totally misleading and poor. Where are Luciano Berio, Bruno Maderna, Luigi Nono, the experience of the Studio di Fonologia Musicale, in Milan, in the fifties? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.7.161.28 ( talk) 18:10, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Er... Why are "chiptunes" listed in the 2000s? This is something we did in the 80s and 90s; it has just recently gone through a retro-trend phase, to be sure, but it is certainly not a new innovation of the 2000s. 174.53.187.118 ( talk) 17:53, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
http://www.popcorn-song.com/origin.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.63.172.56 ( talk) 23:14, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
No, it's 100% electronic music. If you follow the link above you can hear the original version from 1969 and all the many many remakes of it that were made, because it was very influential. That link also has tons of history on it. It was a very important piece in the history of electronic music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.63.172.56 ( talk) 05:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
To make it even more clear, there are literally like 100 remakes of this song that've been made over every decade since it was originally released in 1969, including new versions that modern electronic artists are still making today in the 2010s! This includes remakes of it by electronica superstars like Aphex Twin, and pop music superstars like Ben Folds. If that's not massively influential, then *nothing* can be considered influential. This song is as influential as it gets.
http://www.popcorn-song.com/versions.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.63.172.56 ( talk) 05:28, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Popcorn was the first primarily electronic-based music to ever get on the American popular music charts, peaking at #9 on the Billboard Pop Singles and #4 on the Adult Contemporary Chart.
In France, "Popcorn" is the 131st best-selling single of all time, with about 900,000 sales.
Popcorn hit number #1 on the charts in Germany, Australia, Switzerland, Norway, the Netherlands, and it hit #5 in the UK, and #15 in Canada.
... clearly and obviously this was and is a very influential song in the history of electronic music. But if you need even more evidence on top of the mountain I already provided, then just let me know and I'd be happy to make this huge mountain of evidence into a Mount Everest of evidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.63.172.56 ( talk) 06:00, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Should dubstep be added to the list? as I understand that it usually uses synthetic instruments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.222.206.170 ( talk) 20:23, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
I really think we should have an audio example in here somewhere of what electric music sounds like. (That's what I came here looking for.) Is it just an issue of finding electronic music that isn't copyrighted already? -TeragR ( talk) 16:51, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
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Not a single mention of Giorgio Moroder? That's weird, he's considered one of the most important pioneers in electronic music. 87.64.124.240 ( talk) 23:17, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
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I have huge issues both with the definition of dub as a variety of electronic music and with the section describing it here, which I will reproduce so that I can make my points more clearly:
In Jamaica, a form of popular electronic music emerged in the 1960s, dub music, rooted in sound system culture. Dub music was pioneered by studio engineers, such as Sylvan Morris, King Tubby, Errol Thompson, Lee "Scratch" Perry, and Scientist, producing reggae-influenced experimental music with electronic sound technology, in recording studios and at sound system parties. Their experiments included forms of tape-based composition comparable to aspects of musique concrète, an emphasis on repetitive rhythmic structures (often stripped of their harmonic elements) comparable to minimalism, the electronic manipulation of spatiality, the sonic electronic manipulation of pre-recorded musical materials from mass media, deejays toasting over pre-recorded music comparable to live electronic music, remixing music, turntablism, and the mixing and scratching of vinyl.
Despite the limited electronic equipment available to dub pioneers such as King Tubby and Lee "Scratch" Perry, their experiments in remix culture were musically cutting-edge. King Tubby, for example, was a sound system proprietor and electronics technician, whose small front-room studio in the Waterhouse ghetto of western Kingston was a key site of dub music creation
1. Dub as we know it with use of echo, equalisation etc. didn't emerge in the 1960s. Dub plates with some or all of the vocal track removed to facilitate a deejay talking/chanting/toasting over the recording in a dance but with no other effects originated c. 1968-69. The use of more obviously creative "dub" effects evolved in the early 1970s.
2. "producing reggae-influenced experimental music with electronic sound technology". Dub (in its original 1970s Jamaican iteration) wasn't "reggae influenced" - it was reggae, with a more creative mix. Pure and simple. And in terms of "electronic sound technology", the vast majority of 1970s Jamaican dub simply used the mixing desk with echo, reverb and equalisation effects. While these devices are undoubtedly electronic, they were also used - usually in a more restrained style - in the straight vocal versions that most dub tracks were mixes of. Which rather begs the question of where do you draw the line? Nearly all popular music played on electric and/or acoustic (i.e. non-electronic) instruments uses these and other electronic technology. Amplifiers contain electronics.
3. "Their experiments included forms of tape-based composition comparable to aspects of musique concrète" Not usually they didn't. This isn't an argument for dub being electronic music.
4. "electronic manipulation of spatiality". Panning. Again, something that's present on pretty much every stereo recording of popular music, it's just a matter of degree. And a large proportion of 70s dub is mono.
5. "the sonic electronic manipulation of pre-recorded musical materials from mass media". The exact meaning of this sentence isn't entirely clear, but if it means interpolating bits of unrelated recordings into a dub mix, it's another rare exception that doesn't define dub and isn't an argument for it being electronic music.
6. "deejays toasting over pre-recorded music comparable to live electronic music". What does this even mean?
7. "turntablism, and the mixing and scratching of vinyl". Yet another rare exception in 70s dub music - I've never heard scratching in 70s dub, and very rarely interpolations of music from another record.
8. "their experiments in remix culture were musically cutting-edge". I don't dispute for one moment how musically cutting-edge they were. But what is an "experiment in remix culture"?
While dub has hugely influenced much electronic music and in some cases, especially later on, is electronic music because it features electronically generated sounds, the 1970s Jamaican music that defined dub in the first place is in nearly all cases no more electronic than the vocal versions that most dub tracks are remixes of. I can't see what makes, for example, "King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown" by Augustus Pablo electronic when the vocal version of the same recording, "Baby I Love You So" by Jacob Miller isn't. They were both mixed in King Tubby's studio by King Tubby on the same equipment. Neither features any electronic instrumentation or tape manipulation, so such electronic equipment as was used in the creation of the former was used in the creation of the latter - which isn't considered electronic. Either they both are or neither are. The implication of the inclusion of dub as a variety of electronic music is that the use of a mixing desk, reverb, eq and other effects makes it electronic, but this is common to nearly all popular music - the only difference with dub is one of degree and intent and the dividing line is extremely diffuse if not impossible to define clearly. I think this section should be removed. Freewheeling frankie ( talk) 19:11, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
I shortened the lead. Most of the paragraphs were about the historical development of electronic music. I summarized the content in one paragraph and move some sentences to its historical section. However, most of them were already covered. -- Thevictorator95 ( talk) 02:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
One gets the impression from this article that, following the 1960s, all formal and classical electronic music and composition ceased, and for the next 50 years everything done in electronic music was pop, dance, and mostly keyboard-based instruments. This is a very one-sided -- and not at all accurate -- portrayal of electronic music.
Also, more of a distinction could be made between "music played on electronic instruments" (e.g., "Switched-on Bach" or any number of pop/dosco bands", and "electronic music" (e.g. music composed specifically for, and only playable (in original form) on electronic instruments). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.253 ( talk) 19:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
On List of electronic music genres, it says "...consisting of genres of electronic music, primarily created with electronic musical instruments or electronic music technology. A distinction has been made between sound produced using electromechanical means and that produced using electronic technology.". Isn't electronic music just an umbrella term, not a genre? Is this as same case as "ballad" music? Because the definition of electronic music, simply, is "a music that using electronic instrumental". GogoLion ( talk) 13:43, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
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Modern Music critics often describe songs as "Electro" but it seems like they use it as a short form for Electronic rather then a short form for "Electro-funk". Ravenfate ( talk) 22:38, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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I miss Gershon Kingsley on this page. I hope someone with enough knowledge will give him a mention later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.211.173.214 ( talk) 20:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Why doesn't this article have a single mention of Hugh Lecaine? He's an important figure int he history of electronic music and now considered to be the inventor of the first true synthesizer, yet he doesn't get a mention? Revmagpie ( talk) 23:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't Raymond Scott's Circle Machine pre-date the RCA Mark II Sound Synthesizer as the first sequencer? Also, doesn't Manhattan Research Inc (est. 1946) deserve a mention (Didn't Bob Moog get his start there?), along with the Clavivox, which Moog credited as an engineering blueprint for his first synth? (Not being snarky with the questions...I'm just learning about the history of electronic music - pre-Kraftwerk and Walter/Wendy Carlos that is :P ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.183.16.136 ( talk) 22:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
The Wire magazine claims this Egyptian as the founder of purely electronic music, based on a (now lost) 1944 piece called Ta'abir al-Zaar. Should this be mentioned? Totnesmartin 15:22, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
how very convenient for that particular clique of know-it-alls that the piece is "lost". instead of making things up to seem clever, they should be lamenting the lack of content on the wikipedia electronic music page about raymond scott & manhattan project, & perhaps honourable mentions for paul beaver & bernie krause.
This article could be more properly renamed Electronics and popular music; the term Electronic art music is not largely used as it is believed here at Wikipedia, indeed, that article's main source (see Talk:Electronic art music) refers to its subject as electronic music; this is blatantly true. Oh, soon the mastodonts will shout, poor creatures....-- Doktor Who 22:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Foreign language links are usually inappropriate for the english language wikipedia. An inter-wiki link to the french article is fine. See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(links)#Foreign-language_sites and Wikipedia:External links. ∴ here… ♠ 18:56, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Here's comments about the foreign language links. Most readers of the English Wikipedia cannot use that informtion, and it's distracting. That said, if the link is strongly relevant and there are not English resources that can be used, then it would be OK. But in this case there's lots of information available in English on this topic. Also as Here noted, an interwiki link to the the French article would be appropriate, but in this case I visited the French Wikipedia and could not find a link to that website even there. I don't read much French, but enough that I could review the related articles to look for it.
So, I concur with Here's removal of the re-added link.
On the other hand, I also agree with Limowreck that spam links have been a problem in this article. And in particular, I agree that the synthtopia link is a commercial website and does not provide valuable information for Wikipedia, so I have deleted that link. -- Parzival418 Hello 19:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Someone has been through this article and rather over-zealously added 'citation required' links to almost everything that could be factually inaccurate. Unfortunately, most of it is widely accepted (E.g. Delia Derbyshire's involvement in the Doctor Who theme and Keith Emerson's use of synthesizers on tour) and consequently the links are a nuisance. Whilst it makes sense to back up doubtful statements with a citation, the same does not apply to every single fact. I should be able to write 'The moon orbits the earth' without having to cite Galileo or NASA! Electricdruid 13:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
There is discussion about redirecting or merging Electronica to this article at Electronic music. The discussion is at this link: on the Electronica talk page. An editor has stated the intention to make this change quickly, so if anyone wants to enter comments, now would be the time. The editor has already moved Electronic art music to Electronic music (classical) without consensus or wider discussion. I am posting this as a neutral Request for Comment without involving my own opinions on this, to invite editors from related music pages to participate in the discussion. -- Parsifal Hello 06:23, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
UpdateAfter the above post, the editor redirected both Electronica and Electronic dance music to Electronic music (dance & popular), causing the two separate topics to be merged in a confusing way. Those changes were reverted by several editors, according to consensus, as of the time I write this. Of course, that might change again, so you may find the discussions at any of those page titles. The above discussion has since been closed with clear consensus to keep the separate article title Electronica. Parsifal Hello 03:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC) |
Currently, there is a discussion about the content of the Electronica article on its talk page, here. Comments invited. -- Parsifal Hello 19:37, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
throwing this out there for the sake of getting opinions. Is CM an anachronistic term, isn't electronic and computer music essentially one in the same at this stage? Is computer music simply a historic sub-category of electronic music? In academia the distinction is clearer, but the use of computer technology in music creation is now almost ubiquitous in the popular music domain so what distinctions should be made here? From a practical stand point the Computer music article has not been expanded or improved greatly over time so it may function more effectively as a sub-section within the electronic music article. Semitransgenic ( talk) 12:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Who messed this article up? Somebody needs to fix it. And, redirect electronica and electronic dance music to electronic music. It's all the same thing. Auto Racing Fan ( talk) 15:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
It is not the same however, that such branches are part of general Electronic Music is correct GtRyz ( talk) 01:08, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
In the first part of the article, it compares Edison's invention with Raymond Scott's in the use of cylinders. If anyone knows which one it is, please put in the necessary explanation/hyperlink, I'm curious. -- JDitto ( talk) 16:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The following is largely erroneous and not supported by the citation provided: Today, the term electronic music serves to differentiate music that uses electronics as its focal point or inspiration, from music that uses electronics mainly in service of creating an intended production that may have some electronic elements in the sound but does not focus upon them. Semitransgenic ( talk) 17:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
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I contest vividly the image used by the paragraph "The 2000s" and labelled as "a performance using electronic instruments"; although the labelling is vague enough, the image clearly depicts a deejay mixing MP3s with his laptop and also CDs using a simple audio mixing board and 2 Pioneer CD players, so it cannot be representative of anything in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.161.177.141 ( talk) 12:50, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Currently, the article, and Wikipedia in general, doesn't say much about this matter. The only exceptions I've come across are these pages: German electronic music, Suomisaundi. Since the '80s there have emerged many regional scenes (especially in Europe) of various forms of electronic music, so "localized" info describing them is needed. If this is thought to be far beyond the scope of this article, I'd propose to create a template called "Electronic music around the world" (compare with {{World punk}}: "Punk music around the world") and articles on each notable scene be created as part of the a "providing content to the template" project. Omnipedian ( talk) 05:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Is this article written by senior citizens? 'Electronic music is so popular today that it is even played in nightclubs', by god, this happened in the 70's! Almost all music in nightclubs is completely electronic apart form the vocals. Also, 'advances in microprocessor technology increased viability of digital music production', what? 'advances in microprocessor technology', another sentence from the 80's, this stuff is laughably out of date and supplies us with no real information.
I'm also very much in favor of a page or section dedicated to 'electronic music around the world' as the above commenter suggests; I'm personally from Europe and there's indeed many, very interesting and potent regional sounds that deserve attention. A lot of stuff now going strong in Europe has it's roots in the US; techno, hiphop, house all emerged from there, so I presume there's still something interesting going on Statesside as well? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.50.144.73 ( talk) 19:18, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Absolutely horrible article, just the history is covered, what about the genres? the sound? examples? famous groups? 80.219.20.147 ( talk) 11:47, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Is there a page for the following music:
-Elctro by Autopilot -Helium Disco by -Unknown-
Darkened wiki ( talk) 16:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Is there a page for the following music:
-Electronica by Plague Doktor -Electronic music composer St. Richard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.239.8.90 ( talk) 19:04, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
This article is totally misleading and poor. Where are Luciano Berio, Bruno Maderna, Luigi Nono, the experience of the Studio di Fonologia Musicale, in Milan, in the fifties? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.7.161.28 ( talk) 18:10, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Er... Why are "chiptunes" listed in the 2000s? This is something we did in the 80s and 90s; it has just recently gone through a retro-trend phase, to be sure, but it is certainly not a new innovation of the 2000s. 174.53.187.118 ( talk) 17:53, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
http://www.popcorn-song.com/origin.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.63.172.56 ( talk) 23:14, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
No, it's 100% electronic music. If you follow the link above you can hear the original version from 1969 and all the many many remakes of it that were made, because it was very influential. That link also has tons of history on it. It was a very important piece in the history of electronic music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.63.172.56 ( talk) 05:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
To make it even more clear, there are literally like 100 remakes of this song that've been made over every decade since it was originally released in 1969, including new versions that modern electronic artists are still making today in the 2010s! This includes remakes of it by electronica superstars like Aphex Twin, and pop music superstars like Ben Folds. If that's not massively influential, then *nothing* can be considered influential. This song is as influential as it gets.
http://www.popcorn-song.com/versions.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.63.172.56 ( talk) 05:28, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Popcorn was the first primarily electronic-based music to ever get on the American popular music charts, peaking at #9 on the Billboard Pop Singles and #4 on the Adult Contemporary Chart.
In France, "Popcorn" is the 131st best-selling single of all time, with about 900,000 sales.
Popcorn hit number #1 on the charts in Germany, Australia, Switzerland, Norway, the Netherlands, and it hit #5 in the UK, and #15 in Canada.
... clearly and obviously this was and is a very influential song in the history of electronic music. But if you need even more evidence on top of the mountain I already provided, then just let me know and I'd be happy to make this huge mountain of evidence into a Mount Everest of evidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.63.172.56 ( talk) 06:00, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Should dubstep be added to the list? as I understand that it usually uses synthetic instruments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.222.206.170 ( talk) 20:23, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
I really think we should have an audio example in here somewhere of what electric music sounds like. (That's what I came here looking for.) Is it just an issue of finding electronic music that isn't copyrighted already? -TeragR ( talk) 16:51, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
I've made this comprehensive "
phylogeny" of electronic music genres and sub-genres.
By creating an image map, every genre box could link to a wiki article and "play" buttons would be links to a song example of each genre.
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Not a single mention of Giorgio Moroder? That's weird, he's considered one of the most important pioneers in electronic music. 87.64.124.240 ( talk) 23:17, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
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I have huge issues both with the definition of dub as a variety of electronic music and with the section describing it here, which I will reproduce so that I can make my points more clearly:
In Jamaica, a form of popular electronic music emerged in the 1960s, dub music, rooted in sound system culture. Dub music was pioneered by studio engineers, such as Sylvan Morris, King Tubby, Errol Thompson, Lee "Scratch" Perry, and Scientist, producing reggae-influenced experimental music with electronic sound technology, in recording studios and at sound system parties. Their experiments included forms of tape-based composition comparable to aspects of musique concrète, an emphasis on repetitive rhythmic structures (often stripped of their harmonic elements) comparable to minimalism, the electronic manipulation of spatiality, the sonic electronic manipulation of pre-recorded musical materials from mass media, deejays toasting over pre-recorded music comparable to live electronic music, remixing music, turntablism, and the mixing and scratching of vinyl.
Despite the limited electronic equipment available to dub pioneers such as King Tubby and Lee "Scratch" Perry, their experiments in remix culture were musically cutting-edge. King Tubby, for example, was a sound system proprietor and electronics technician, whose small front-room studio in the Waterhouse ghetto of western Kingston was a key site of dub music creation
1. Dub as we know it with use of echo, equalisation etc. didn't emerge in the 1960s. Dub plates with some or all of the vocal track removed to facilitate a deejay talking/chanting/toasting over the recording in a dance but with no other effects originated c. 1968-69. The use of more obviously creative "dub" effects evolved in the early 1970s.
2. "producing reggae-influenced experimental music with electronic sound technology". Dub (in its original 1970s Jamaican iteration) wasn't "reggae influenced" - it was reggae, with a more creative mix. Pure and simple. And in terms of "electronic sound technology", the vast majority of 1970s Jamaican dub simply used the mixing desk with echo, reverb and equalisation effects. While these devices are undoubtedly electronic, they were also used - usually in a more restrained style - in the straight vocal versions that most dub tracks were mixes of. Which rather begs the question of where do you draw the line? Nearly all popular music played on electric and/or acoustic (i.e. non-electronic) instruments uses these and other electronic technology. Amplifiers contain electronics.
3. "Their experiments included forms of tape-based composition comparable to aspects of musique concrète" Not usually they didn't. This isn't an argument for dub being electronic music.
4. "electronic manipulation of spatiality". Panning. Again, something that's present on pretty much every stereo recording of popular music, it's just a matter of degree. And a large proportion of 70s dub is mono.
5. "the sonic electronic manipulation of pre-recorded musical materials from mass media". The exact meaning of this sentence isn't entirely clear, but if it means interpolating bits of unrelated recordings into a dub mix, it's another rare exception that doesn't define dub and isn't an argument for it being electronic music.
6. "deejays toasting over pre-recorded music comparable to live electronic music". What does this even mean?
7. "turntablism, and the mixing and scratching of vinyl". Yet another rare exception in 70s dub music - I've never heard scratching in 70s dub, and very rarely interpolations of music from another record.
8. "their experiments in remix culture were musically cutting-edge". I don't dispute for one moment how musically cutting-edge they were. But what is an "experiment in remix culture"?
While dub has hugely influenced much electronic music and in some cases, especially later on, is electronic music because it features electronically generated sounds, the 1970s Jamaican music that defined dub in the first place is in nearly all cases no more electronic than the vocal versions that most dub tracks are remixes of. I can't see what makes, for example, "King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown" by Augustus Pablo electronic when the vocal version of the same recording, "Baby I Love You So" by Jacob Miller isn't. They were both mixed in King Tubby's studio by King Tubby on the same equipment. Neither features any electronic instrumentation or tape manipulation, so such electronic equipment as was used in the creation of the former was used in the creation of the latter - which isn't considered electronic. Either they both are or neither are. The implication of the inclusion of dub as a variety of electronic music is that the use of a mixing desk, reverb, eq and other effects makes it electronic, but this is common to nearly all popular music - the only difference with dub is one of degree and intent and the dividing line is extremely diffuse if not impossible to define clearly. I think this section should be removed. Freewheeling frankie ( talk) 19:11, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
I shortened the lead. Most of the paragraphs were about the historical development of electronic music. I summarized the content in one paragraph and move some sentences to its historical section. However, most of them were already covered. -- Thevictorator95 ( talk) 02:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
One gets the impression from this article that, following the 1960s, all formal and classical electronic music and composition ceased, and for the next 50 years everything done in electronic music was pop, dance, and mostly keyboard-based instruments. This is a very one-sided -- and not at all accurate -- portrayal of electronic music.
Also, more of a distinction could be made between "music played on electronic instruments" (e.g., "Switched-on Bach" or any number of pop/dosco bands", and "electronic music" (e.g. music composed specifically for, and only playable (in original form) on electronic instruments). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.253 ( talk) 19:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
On List of electronic music genres, it says "...consisting of genres of electronic music, primarily created with electronic musical instruments or electronic music technology. A distinction has been made between sound produced using electromechanical means and that produced using electronic technology.". Isn't electronic music just an umbrella term, not a genre? Is this as same case as "ballad" music? Because the definition of electronic music, simply, is "a music that using electronic instrumental". GogoLion ( talk) 13:43, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
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Modern Music critics often describe songs as "Electro" but it seems like they use it as a short form for Electronic rather then a short form for "Electro-funk". Ravenfate ( talk) 22:38, 17 April 2024 (UTC)