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Vijay Sai ( talk) 13:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Per capita consumption - the regions are mixed up (for instance, Tamil Nadu should be in the southern region). Please correct at the next opportunity. _SRR — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.144.196.92 ( talk) 18:21, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
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Rural electrification Jharkhand, Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Orissa, Uttranchal, West Bengal etc are some of the states where significant number (more than 10%) of villages are yet to be electrified. • Number of Villages (1991 Census) - 593,732 • Villages Electrified (30 May 2006) - 488,173 • Village level Electrification % - 82.2% —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.164.38.35 ( talk) 04:27, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
I flagged a sentence in the hydropower section with a demand for clarification regarding the use of the Million unit (MU) as a shorthand for gigawatt-hour. It took me a bit of reading elsewhere to understand this unit of measurement which is specific to India. For the benefit of international readers, I would suggest you either change MU to GWh or explain what you mean by Unit and Million units in a footnote. Bouchecl ( talk) 21:06, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Electrical Units (Watt/ Hr.) represents the unit consumed in particular time period however watt is intensity of power out put. Similarly Million Unit and Giga watt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.102.191.84 ( talk) 09:10, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Electrical Units is kW Hour (Often kWH), in other words 3600000J (3.6 MJ). This is commonly used as one unit. 16:00, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
The amount of energy generated through renewable power sources is mentioned as around 12 percent in the article. While, hydro power is also counted as renewable source. I need other views before changing it. Alok Bansal ( talk) 06:14, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
When Solar PV panels are installed on water canals as stated in the Main Page, how the canal maintenance such as de-silting is carried out by machinery? 49.207.241.167 ( talk) 17:34, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
You need a source that actually discusses that theory and makes that conclusion. You can't present new theories and do original research in wiki article, relying on data in one or more sources. You need a source to present that theory or idea. Read WP:OR. Wikipedia policy is, "The phrase "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist. This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources." This article has a lot of OR by a user from an IP address 49.207.***.***. 64.134.177.44 ( talk) 09:41, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
The following content was deleted by Ita140188 stating not true and not supported by the ref. quoted:
Hydrogen is a carbon neutral fuel. Solar electricity prices in India have already fallen below the affordable price (≈ INR 5.00 per Kwh to generate 0.041 lb/Kwh hydrogen which is equivalent to 0.071 litres of petrol in terms of lower heating value) to make hydrogen economical fuel by sourcing from electrolysis of water to replace petrol/gasoline as transport fuel. Hydrogen Fuel Cell Engines and Related Technologies Vehicles with fuel cell technology based on hydrogen gas are nearly twice more efficient compared to gasoline fuelled engines.
The above content is fully correct in prevailing Indian market prices of solar electricity below INR 5/Kwh and INR 70.42 per litre of gasoline as explained below.
When hydrogen gas generated from INR 5 worth solar electricity is used in a fuel cell vehicle, it generates more mileage /power than a conventional gasoline engine with INR 5 worth of gasoline. The statement is true with at least a 100% margin due to 100% more traction efficiency which would take care of the higher cost of fuel cell vehicle. 183.82.199.109 ( talk) 09:53, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
There are not many assumptions in my calculations. The hydrogen generating water electroliser is not a costly installation with all the required safety precautions. 100% margin is available (50% of life time fuel savings) to off set the higher cost of fuel cell vehicles with no pollutant emission. A technology may not be economical in developed countries but it can be economical in India due to tax structure. The higher initial cost of fuel cell car in USA is due to inclusion of free hydrogen for 3 years duration. 2016 Toyota Mirai Fuel-Cell Sedan. It is natural to invest initially for a long term returns on hydrogen transport and its filling stations which need not be considered for near future returns. It is a valid statement applicable in India. I hope you are convinced. 183.82.199.109 ( talk) 10:32, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Your statement that Battery Electric Vehicles (BEV) are more efficient (in terms of solar generation to km driven) than Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles (FCEV) is true but they have higher replacement cost of battery pack (shorter life) and low availability/higher down time due to the longer time taken for recharging the batteries. The market price difference between a Toyota Mirai Fuel-Cell Sedan and equivalent gasoline Toyota Camry is only US$ 35,000 with inclusion of three years free Hydrogen fuel supply which is not a big difference from an equivalent BEV to say infrastructure cost is very high. Ultimately, what matters is the total incurred cost per mile per unit payload. FCEV are more economical for heavy duty use in inter city transport like taxies, buses, trucks, tankers, etc while BEV are more economical for light duty use in intra city passenger transport. BEV has to face competition from Metro rail / mass transport systems which are also run by electricity on congested city roads.
You may be assuming a few centralised mega Hydrogen plants from where the gas is distributed to every retail outlet as it is applicable to gasoline/Diesel fuels. It need not be but through a decentralised local retail sale point hydrogen generation plants drawing electricity from the electric grid (with oxygen as by product which can also be used in FCEV to boost power and efficiency in place of air). Hydrogen transport and use is less hazardous compared (given in the Ref) to gasoline/LPG/ Chlorine gas (denser than air) which are widely transported and used presently every where. 183.82.199.109 ( talk) 11:14, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
We need a definition of "village electrification"- sometimes it means that a power pole has reached a village; sometimes it means that at least one house has been given electrical connection. It does not mean any electricity has been actually delivered or consumed or has been made available for more than 10 hours in a month. It is also problematic that different states use different metrics to measure rural electrification. chami 16:08, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
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Very well written, however lot of statistics & information is outdated. I request you to kindly check & upgrade with upto date statistics.
Hello,
I expect to be updating Electricity sector in Turkey shortly. The chart that is there already I made with matplotlib and I was thinking of making more using matplotlib. But do the advantages of making the graphs and charts as has been done in this article outweigh the disadvantages - for example won't there be a problem moving the pie chart here into articles in other Indian languages? And what advantage, if any, is there to having charts here in jpg format?
If you decide to use matplotlib feel free to copy and adapt the code which I will add to the Turkey charts.
Chidgk1 ( talk) 11:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
I am changing the infobox image on the basis of a few minor issues; it is too dark and unclear at places, the image and its description about the sun setting (irrelevant point since this can be changed) is again unfocused. I'm calling these issues minor since MOS:IMAGELEAD starts off about the representative image— "to give readers visual confirmation that they've arrived at the right page".
There are numerous suitable images in the gallery, this is a good one, land based, commons:File:Windmill in Kallidaikurichi.jpg. I've chosen one, maybe less representative for some, nevertheless, water based. FacetsOfNonStickPans ( talk) 11:31, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
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Vijay Sai ( talk) 13:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Per capita consumption - the regions are mixed up (for instance, Tamil Nadu should be in the southern region). Please correct at the next opportunity. _SRR — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.144.196.92 ( talk) 18:21, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 17:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Rural electrification Jharkhand, Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Orissa, Uttranchal, West Bengal etc are some of the states where significant number (more than 10%) of villages are yet to be electrified. • Number of Villages (1991 Census) - 593,732 • Villages Electrified (30 May 2006) - 488,173 • Village level Electrification % - 82.2% —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.164.38.35 ( talk) 04:27, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
I flagged a sentence in the hydropower section with a demand for clarification regarding the use of the Million unit (MU) as a shorthand for gigawatt-hour. It took me a bit of reading elsewhere to understand this unit of measurement which is specific to India. For the benefit of international readers, I would suggest you either change MU to GWh or explain what you mean by Unit and Million units in a footnote. Bouchecl ( talk) 21:06, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Electrical Units (Watt/ Hr.) represents the unit consumed in particular time period however watt is intensity of power out put. Similarly Million Unit and Giga watt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.102.191.84 ( talk) 09:10, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Electrical Units is kW Hour (Often kWH), in other words 3600000J (3.6 MJ). This is commonly used as one unit. 16:00, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
The amount of energy generated through renewable power sources is mentioned as around 12 percent in the article. While, hydro power is also counted as renewable source. I need other views before changing it. Alok Bansal ( talk) 06:14, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
When Solar PV panels are installed on water canals as stated in the Main Page, how the canal maintenance such as de-silting is carried out by machinery? 49.207.241.167 ( talk) 17:34, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
You need a source that actually discusses that theory and makes that conclusion. You can't present new theories and do original research in wiki article, relying on data in one or more sources. You need a source to present that theory or idea. Read WP:OR. Wikipedia policy is, "The phrase "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist. This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources." This article has a lot of OR by a user from an IP address 49.207.***.***. 64.134.177.44 ( talk) 09:41, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
The following content was deleted by Ita140188 stating not true and not supported by the ref. quoted:
Hydrogen is a carbon neutral fuel. Solar electricity prices in India have already fallen below the affordable price (≈ INR 5.00 per Kwh to generate 0.041 lb/Kwh hydrogen which is equivalent to 0.071 litres of petrol in terms of lower heating value) to make hydrogen economical fuel by sourcing from electrolysis of water to replace petrol/gasoline as transport fuel. Hydrogen Fuel Cell Engines and Related Technologies Vehicles with fuel cell technology based on hydrogen gas are nearly twice more efficient compared to gasoline fuelled engines.
The above content is fully correct in prevailing Indian market prices of solar electricity below INR 5/Kwh and INR 70.42 per litre of gasoline as explained below.
When hydrogen gas generated from INR 5 worth solar electricity is used in a fuel cell vehicle, it generates more mileage /power than a conventional gasoline engine with INR 5 worth of gasoline. The statement is true with at least a 100% margin due to 100% more traction efficiency which would take care of the higher cost of fuel cell vehicle. 183.82.199.109 ( talk) 09:53, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
There are not many assumptions in my calculations. The hydrogen generating water electroliser is not a costly installation with all the required safety precautions. 100% margin is available (50% of life time fuel savings) to off set the higher cost of fuel cell vehicles with no pollutant emission. A technology may not be economical in developed countries but it can be economical in India due to tax structure. The higher initial cost of fuel cell car in USA is due to inclusion of free hydrogen for 3 years duration. 2016 Toyota Mirai Fuel-Cell Sedan. It is natural to invest initially for a long term returns on hydrogen transport and its filling stations which need not be considered for near future returns. It is a valid statement applicable in India. I hope you are convinced. 183.82.199.109 ( talk) 10:32, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Your statement that Battery Electric Vehicles (BEV) are more efficient (in terms of solar generation to km driven) than Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles (FCEV) is true but they have higher replacement cost of battery pack (shorter life) and low availability/higher down time due to the longer time taken for recharging the batteries. The market price difference between a Toyota Mirai Fuel-Cell Sedan and equivalent gasoline Toyota Camry is only US$ 35,000 with inclusion of three years free Hydrogen fuel supply which is not a big difference from an equivalent BEV to say infrastructure cost is very high. Ultimately, what matters is the total incurred cost per mile per unit payload. FCEV are more economical for heavy duty use in inter city transport like taxies, buses, trucks, tankers, etc while BEV are more economical for light duty use in intra city passenger transport. BEV has to face competition from Metro rail / mass transport systems which are also run by electricity on congested city roads.
You may be assuming a few centralised mega Hydrogen plants from where the gas is distributed to every retail outlet as it is applicable to gasoline/Diesel fuels. It need not be but through a decentralised local retail sale point hydrogen generation plants drawing electricity from the electric grid (with oxygen as by product which can also be used in FCEV to boost power and efficiency in place of air). Hydrogen transport and use is less hazardous compared (given in the Ref) to gasoline/LPG/ Chlorine gas (denser than air) which are widely transported and used presently every where. 183.82.199.109 ( talk) 11:14, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
We need a definition of "village electrification"- sometimes it means that a power pole has reached a village; sometimes it means that at least one house has been given electrical connection. It does not mean any electricity has been actually delivered or consumed or has been made available for more than 10 hours in a month. It is also problematic that different states use different metrics to measure rural electrification. chami 16:08, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
This article has been revised as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. Earlier text must not be restored, unless it can be verified to be free of infringement. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Contributors may use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. 💵Money💵emoji💵 Talk💸 Help out at CCI! 16:28, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Dear Friend/s,
Good Day
Very well written, however lot of statistics & information is outdated. I request you to kindly check & upgrade with upto date statistics.
Hello,
I expect to be updating Electricity sector in Turkey shortly. The chart that is there already I made with matplotlib and I was thinking of making more using matplotlib. But do the advantages of making the graphs and charts as has been done in this article outweigh the disadvantages - for example won't there be a problem moving the pie chart here into articles in other Indian languages? And what advantage, if any, is there to having charts here in jpg format?
If you decide to use matplotlib feel free to copy and adapt the code which I will add to the Turkey charts.
Chidgk1 ( talk) 11:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
I am changing the infobox image on the basis of a few minor issues; it is too dark and unclear at places, the image and its description about the sun setting (irrelevant point since this can be changed) is again unfocused. I'm calling these issues minor since MOS:IMAGELEAD starts off about the representative image— "to give readers visual confirmation that they've arrived at the right page".
There are numerous suitable images in the gallery, this is a good one, land based, commons:File:Windmill in Kallidaikurichi.jpg. I've chosen one, maybe less representative for some, nevertheless, water based. FacetsOfNonStickPans ( talk) 11:31, 8 October 2022 (UTC)