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This page tends to talk in generalities and gives examples of how an electric spark can be used. An "electric spark" in the sense it is used here is simply an "electrostatic discharge", which is for the most part what a spark is... electric field potential exceeding the threshold of the insulation between the opposite charges and jumping the gap to equalize. The electrostatic discharge page does a much better job explaining the phenomena, and "electric spark" could easily be incorporated into it. That page may be better served by renaming "Spark", and moving ESD in the application of electronics to a subcategory, not the primary. Searches for ESD should then go to that page, or an "also known as" added at the top. Another "electric discharge" used interchangeably for consideration.... Electrical_discharge. Thoughts, comments.... Borealdreams ( talk) 22:29, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
I guess I am just trying to find the best way to get all these pages in agreement with one another, instead of different messages & links to different sources. They are all essentially the same thing, the threshold being reached of an insulation medium for the neutralization of an electric potential across that medium. Whether it is "natural-static caused" or "human-caused (ie spark plug), it is still the same end result a Spark. Suggestions on how to do so? Borealdreams ( talk) 17:14, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Electric Spark and Electric Arc are the same thing (So-far I know). So I suggest to merge the content (Photographs and text-informations) into the page Electric Arc, since the page on Electric Arc contains more technical informations.
I'm not sure the welding photo is the best example for this article. It's great for the welding article and a very good photo, but the weld itself is done by an arc, not a spark. The sparks flying away from the weld are not electrical but rather bits of molten or burning metal, which is a totally different kind of spark. (More related to sparks from a grinder than electric sparks.)
I went ahead and changed it to a photo of a stun gun, as in this one you can really see the spark. Zaereth ( talk) 21:24, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Lots of issues with the history section. For the moment, I've merely amended the part about Dailibard's involvement. I will return at some later point to add other information about earlier experiments. Surprised to see Leibniz mentioned here -- he seems rather an odd outlier, certain never mentioned in the major historiography on early electricity such as Helibron's classic tome [1] and while an earlier editor cites Heilbron with regard to Ward, where are du Fay and Stephen Gray, whose work is certainly of far greater significance?; Karxpava ( talk) 19:04, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
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According to /info/en/?search=Taser?wprov=sfla1, tasers produce an arc, not a spark like this page suggests. I'm completely neutral on this matter because I don't know which is true and I was looking on Wikipedia to find out more, but came across said contradiction. I have brought up this issue in Taser's discussion section, too, and have provided the link of this page there. I would greatly appreciate for this to be resolved. Reployer ( talk) 07:27, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Cool. Thanks for letting me know. I personally find the terminology a bit weird, but I'm not the one who made it up, so it's good to be on the same page as others. Be advised that I've now suggested an edit to that page, but it's my first edit on Wikipedia, so I don't know if I did it properly. Reployer ( talk) 06:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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This page tends to talk in generalities and gives examples of how an electric spark can be used. An "electric spark" in the sense it is used here is simply an "electrostatic discharge", which is for the most part what a spark is... electric field potential exceeding the threshold of the insulation between the opposite charges and jumping the gap to equalize. The electrostatic discharge page does a much better job explaining the phenomena, and "electric spark" could easily be incorporated into it. That page may be better served by renaming "Spark", and moving ESD in the application of electronics to a subcategory, not the primary. Searches for ESD should then go to that page, or an "also known as" added at the top. Another "electric discharge" used interchangeably for consideration.... Electrical_discharge. Thoughts, comments.... Borealdreams ( talk) 22:29, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
I guess I am just trying to find the best way to get all these pages in agreement with one another, instead of different messages & links to different sources. They are all essentially the same thing, the threshold being reached of an insulation medium for the neutralization of an electric potential across that medium. Whether it is "natural-static caused" or "human-caused (ie spark plug), it is still the same end result a Spark. Suggestions on how to do so? Borealdreams ( talk) 17:14, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Electric Spark and Electric Arc are the same thing (So-far I know). So I suggest to merge the content (Photographs and text-informations) into the page Electric Arc, since the page on Electric Arc contains more technical informations.
I'm not sure the welding photo is the best example for this article. It's great for the welding article and a very good photo, but the weld itself is done by an arc, not a spark. The sparks flying away from the weld are not electrical but rather bits of molten or burning metal, which is a totally different kind of spark. (More related to sparks from a grinder than electric sparks.)
I went ahead and changed it to a photo of a stun gun, as in this one you can really see the spark. Zaereth ( talk) 21:24, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Lots of issues with the history section. For the moment, I've merely amended the part about Dailibard's involvement. I will return at some later point to add other information about earlier experiments. Surprised to see Leibniz mentioned here -- he seems rather an odd outlier, certain never mentioned in the major historiography on early electricity such as Helibron's classic tome [1] and while an earlier editor cites Heilbron with regard to Ward, where are du Fay and Stephen Gray, whose work is certainly of far greater significance?; Karxpava ( talk) 19:04, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
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According to /info/en/?search=Taser?wprov=sfla1, tasers produce an arc, not a spark like this page suggests. I'm completely neutral on this matter because I don't know which is true and I was looking on Wikipedia to find out more, but came across said contradiction. I have brought up this issue in Taser's discussion section, too, and have provided the link of this page there. I would greatly appreciate for this to be resolved. Reployer ( talk) 07:27, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Cool. Thanks for letting me know. I personally find the terminology a bit weird, but I'm not the one who made it up, so it's good to be on the same page as others. Be advised that I've now suggested an edit to that page, but it's my first edit on Wikipedia, so I don't know if I did it properly. Reployer ( talk) 06:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)