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January–December 2007
A section of criticisms is required. No secret that contemporaries and those in the present consider her to be/have been a Communist, for instance. - MSTCrow 23:35, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I feel this article fails to meet good article criteria, based on the following:
The article has a solid foundation, though, and with some work could be a Good Article. -- JerryOrr 03:59, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
It seems strange that an entire section is devoted to her attitude toward Catholics, but no mention is made of her decades social work in the years before she became first lady. 164.106.171.220 22:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Last comment was me, forgot to sign in, sorry.
Chuck78
22:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I have renamed this section as the wording didn't suggest that these alleged relationships were at all 'controversial' at the time or now. Moreover, as the section is completely uncited it would seem to be a good candidate for a cleanup or removal (I suspect that the later would be more appropriate). -- Nick Dowling 04:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
15:11, 10 May 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.63.129.30 ( talk) 20:13, 10 May 2007 (UTC).
Mrs. Roosevelt was actually a Socialist and an advocate of a non-violent political revolution in America. There was a quote somewhere to that effect... shouldn't something be added to reflect this, considering it was probably an extremely controversial idea coming from a woman at the dawn of the Cold War era?-- 24.15.165.14 14:38, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Where did she go to school? Did she get a college degree? Roosevelt is an important figure, but I don't see any of this information Gautam Discuss 06:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
The 'Early Life' section seems to skip a lot of ground between the two paragraphs. Does anyone have anything to add, like what happened between school and her engagement, or how Eleanor met FDR?
Can someone explain what this sentence means? "During her years as a young woman, Roosevelt claimed her full, 6' height." "Claimed"? -- Jfruh ( talk) 02:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
In the subsection " The Catholic issue", the text read:
She seems to have paid attention to the anti-Catholic polemics of people like Paul Blanshard.
Referring to Blanshard as "anti-Catholic" adopts the view of his Catholic detractors thus I have changed the sentence to read:
She seems to attention to the secularist polemics of people like Paul Blanshard.
For more on this, see Freethinkers by Susan Jacoby, pp 298-302.
-- 67.180.238.184 01:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
A few minutes ago, someone added a line saying that (dying at 78) she was one of the shortest-lived first ladies. I don't know what gave them that idea... I did a quick check on the 10 from Calhoun to Lincoln, as a random slice out of the middle of our history -- some died as early as 52, and only one (Polk) lived to be older than 74. Just wanted to document why I reverted that edit! Poindexter Propellerhead 05:34, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I find it odd that since there is much evidence from reliable references to both sides of the debate, that there is not a single mention (other than external links) of what is today considered by many mainstream writers/commentators to be her bisexuality, if not outright closeted lesbianism. Why is there no mention of any references to her sexuality from biographies, and why is there no mention of the widely-publicized erotic love letters she wrote to a longtime female companion? Wikipedia should be detailing the two published points of view on this subject. VanTucky (talk) 03:24, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Just putting out feelers in Wiki world about my desire to include Ms. Roosevelt to the Look alike contest as a lesbian icon EVEN IF SHE WAS/WAS NOT GAY. I have dressed as Eleanor Roosevelt many times at FACES ORLANDO a famous lesbian bar. Just in Trivia do not remove this please until consensus is reached. Get involved, I love friendly debates and will back down if you convince me! Cr8tiv 20:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
THANK YOU! A civil resolution! I love consensus. Cr8tiv 17:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
The assertion that Roosevelt "earned large amounts of money from advertising activities" looks pretty questionable to me. The source provided, 'The Roosevelt Myth', doesn't sound very objective and the text doesn't specify what these advertising activities were - it simply asserts that she did this and foreign governments were somehow involved. Not very convincing IMO. -- Nick Dowling 00:06, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Please can someone add coordinates for the Roosevelt tomb, to the infobox, using {{ coord}}? Thank you. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 16:19, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
It is mentioned that Eleanor's mom-in-law was 5'10" and only 2 inches shorter than Eleanor, but no where is Eleanor's height mentioned ... if she was 6 ft tall it should be specifically mentioned in the body somewhere! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwsmoney ( talk • contribs)
[..] Sara Delano Roosevelt, who, at 5'10", was only 2 inches shorter than Eleanor serve any purpose? It makes no sense! To know who is taller is actually of important? 58.187.48.67 15:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm writing a paper for English about Eleanor Roosevelt, and I need ot include her early life. But everywhere I look, I can't find anything. Sure I know who her parents were and when they died, but nothing more than that! Can anyone help me? Plesy 01:43, 14 November 2007 (UTC)Plesy
I have reviewed this article and have failed the article at this time based on the requirements of the [[WP:WIAGA|GA criteria. For the most part, this article has significantly improved since its initial review back in February. However, the main reason for failing the article is again for citations. There is still insufficient sourcing throughout the article. I'd recommend before nominating again, that the following issues be addressed:
Add inline citations for:
This may look like a lot, but it is necessary for the article to reach GA status. I'd also recommend that once the above issues are fixed that the editors of the article ask some outside editors to give the article a good copyedit. If you do correct the above issues and make sure the article meets the requirements of the GA criteria, then consider renominating again. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. If you disagree with the review, you can seek remediation at Good article reassessment. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Again good work, and keep improving the article. -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 07:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
E.R. was one of the most powerful and influential first ladies in the history of the country. This part of her life deserves more than a few paragraphs, and should touch on her responsibilities and relationships with other world leaders. +sj + 02:49, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 |
January–December 2007
A section of criticisms is required. No secret that contemporaries and those in the present consider her to be/have been a Communist, for instance. - MSTCrow 23:35, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I feel this article fails to meet good article criteria, based on the following:
The article has a solid foundation, though, and with some work could be a Good Article. -- JerryOrr 03:59, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
It seems strange that an entire section is devoted to her attitude toward Catholics, but no mention is made of her decades social work in the years before she became first lady. 164.106.171.220 22:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Last comment was me, forgot to sign in, sorry.
Chuck78
22:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I have renamed this section as the wording didn't suggest that these alleged relationships were at all 'controversial' at the time or now. Moreover, as the section is completely uncited it would seem to be a good candidate for a cleanup or removal (I suspect that the later would be more appropriate). -- Nick Dowling 04:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
15:11, 10 May 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.63.129.30 ( talk) 20:13, 10 May 2007 (UTC).
Mrs. Roosevelt was actually a Socialist and an advocate of a non-violent political revolution in America. There was a quote somewhere to that effect... shouldn't something be added to reflect this, considering it was probably an extremely controversial idea coming from a woman at the dawn of the Cold War era?-- 24.15.165.14 14:38, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Where did she go to school? Did she get a college degree? Roosevelt is an important figure, but I don't see any of this information Gautam Discuss 06:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
The 'Early Life' section seems to skip a lot of ground between the two paragraphs. Does anyone have anything to add, like what happened between school and her engagement, or how Eleanor met FDR?
Can someone explain what this sentence means? "During her years as a young woman, Roosevelt claimed her full, 6' height." "Claimed"? -- Jfruh ( talk) 02:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
In the subsection " The Catholic issue", the text read:
She seems to have paid attention to the anti-Catholic polemics of people like Paul Blanshard.
Referring to Blanshard as "anti-Catholic" adopts the view of his Catholic detractors thus I have changed the sentence to read:
She seems to attention to the secularist polemics of people like Paul Blanshard.
For more on this, see Freethinkers by Susan Jacoby, pp 298-302.
-- 67.180.238.184 01:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
A few minutes ago, someone added a line saying that (dying at 78) she was one of the shortest-lived first ladies. I don't know what gave them that idea... I did a quick check on the 10 from Calhoun to Lincoln, as a random slice out of the middle of our history -- some died as early as 52, and only one (Polk) lived to be older than 74. Just wanted to document why I reverted that edit! Poindexter Propellerhead 05:34, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I find it odd that since there is much evidence from reliable references to both sides of the debate, that there is not a single mention (other than external links) of what is today considered by many mainstream writers/commentators to be her bisexuality, if not outright closeted lesbianism. Why is there no mention of any references to her sexuality from biographies, and why is there no mention of the widely-publicized erotic love letters she wrote to a longtime female companion? Wikipedia should be detailing the two published points of view on this subject. VanTucky (talk) 03:24, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Just putting out feelers in Wiki world about my desire to include Ms. Roosevelt to the Look alike contest as a lesbian icon EVEN IF SHE WAS/WAS NOT GAY. I have dressed as Eleanor Roosevelt many times at FACES ORLANDO a famous lesbian bar. Just in Trivia do not remove this please until consensus is reached. Get involved, I love friendly debates and will back down if you convince me! Cr8tiv 20:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
THANK YOU! A civil resolution! I love consensus. Cr8tiv 17:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
The assertion that Roosevelt "earned large amounts of money from advertising activities" looks pretty questionable to me. The source provided, 'The Roosevelt Myth', doesn't sound very objective and the text doesn't specify what these advertising activities were - it simply asserts that she did this and foreign governments were somehow involved. Not very convincing IMO. -- Nick Dowling 00:06, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Please can someone add coordinates for the Roosevelt tomb, to the infobox, using {{ coord}}? Thank you. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 16:19, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
It is mentioned that Eleanor's mom-in-law was 5'10" and only 2 inches shorter than Eleanor, but no where is Eleanor's height mentioned ... if she was 6 ft tall it should be specifically mentioned in the body somewhere! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwsmoney ( talk • contribs)
[..] Sara Delano Roosevelt, who, at 5'10", was only 2 inches shorter than Eleanor serve any purpose? It makes no sense! To know who is taller is actually of important? 58.187.48.67 15:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm writing a paper for English about Eleanor Roosevelt, and I need ot include her early life. But everywhere I look, I can't find anything. Sure I know who her parents were and when they died, but nothing more than that! Can anyone help me? Plesy 01:43, 14 November 2007 (UTC)Plesy
I have reviewed this article and have failed the article at this time based on the requirements of the [[WP:WIAGA|GA criteria. For the most part, this article has significantly improved since its initial review back in February. However, the main reason for failing the article is again for citations. There is still insufficient sourcing throughout the article. I'd recommend before nominating again, that the following issues be addressed:
Add inline citations for:
This may look like a lot, but it is necessary for the article to reach GA status. I'd also recommend that once the above issues are fixed that the editors of the article ask some outside editors to give the article a good copyedit. If you do correct the above issues and make sure the article meets the requirements of the GA criteria, then consider renominating again. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. If you disagree with the review, you can seek remediation at Good article reassessment. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Again good work, and keep improving the article. -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 07:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
E.R. was one of the most powerful and influential first ladies in the history of the country. This part of her life deserves more than a few paragraphs, and should touch on her responsibilities and relationships with other world leaders. +sj + 02:49, 24 November 2007 (UTC)