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The organization exitance is not well documented at all, just one trustworthy source : "Alvaro Delgados Book"
So you can't say it actually exists, and actually in the spanish wikipedia they actually say it's "supposed to be", not a "it is"
I removed some of the names mentioned in the previous version of the article because there was no source for them nor an explanation of the kind of involvement of the persons mentioned. I assume the primary source was
Álvaro Delgado's book. Perhaps a section about the book would be a better place for detailed info about El Yunque, specially highly specific details like their suppossed opposition to Masons and Jews, which, again, I assume come from Delgado's book. This will make quotation easier and will help in case of conflicting opinions by another journalist.
Asereje 07:24, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think this article is highly biased.
Even though the existence of this organization is debatable, and sometimes tacitly accepted; the article strongly implies a bieased POV, attributing even crimes performed by this supposed organization..
You bunch of mochos, you digust me.
- yeah, now that's constructive discussion. 201.143.57.220 19:08, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Es evidente que quien firma como AMLO no tiene nada que ver con AMLO, y que es un miembro de la derecha que defiende y promueve a esta "supuesta" organización, que hace mucho ruido para ser una supuesta organización, ya me imagino a un miembro de la izquierda diciendo "bunch of mochos", sencillamente no tiene sentido, aquellos a quienes se les refiere como mochos*, son precisamente los que defienden y promueven a la "derecha".
Incubo
aside from being poorly written, the third paragraph of this article features condenatory (condemnatory ) phrases, of ironic nature when it refers to the yunque "being as evil as the boogeyman". It would greatly help its informative qualities if that part was left out or edited.
The previously mentioned condemnatory phrases of ironic nature have been removed a while ago. I've added some testimony about El Yunque from a recognized ex-member (former mayor of Puebla), the source is not a left-wing publication, but surprisingly, a right-wing website (with alleged ties to El Yunque) which incidentally states that it is linked to the PAN. Perhaps it's time to remove the questioned neutrality note on this article. . 201.116.131.166 04:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)José Guzmán.
Might want to remove the "alleged" descriptions and the "Mexican conspiracy theories" category and put the article on par with the Spanish version of the article. There have been more news articles on the subject matter released in recent years (Spanish-speaking, for the most part), delving more into the group's activities and its actions as both a political organization and a paramilitary group.
I see that the talk in this page is over a decade old, and that this article is listed as "low priority" in both the Mexico and the Conservatorism portal, it might be time to brush up on it a little. 2806:1016:D:7FF6:A5AE:AB59:BF83:3F4D ( talk) 10:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
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The organization exitance is not well documented at all, just one trustworthy source : "Alvaro Delgados Book"
So you can't say it actually exists, and actually in the spanish wikipedia they actually say it's "supposed to be", not a "it is"
I removed some of the names mentioned in the previous version of the article because there was no source for them nor an explanation of the kind of involvement of the persons mentioned. I assume the primary source was
Álvaro Delgado's book. Perhaps a section about the book would be a better place for detailed info about El Yunque, specially highly specific details like their suppossed opposition to Masons and Jews, which, again, I assume come from Delgado's book. This will make quotation easier and will help in case of conflicting opinions by another journalist.
Asereje 07:24, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think this article is highly biased.
Even though the existence of this organization is debatable, and sometimes tacitly accepted; the article strongly implies a bieased POV, attributing even crimes performed by this supposed organization..
You bunch of mochos, you digust me.
- yeah, now that's constructive discussion. 201.143.57.220 19:08, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Es evidente que quien firma como AMLO no tiene nada que ver con AMLO, y que es un miembro de la derecha que defiende y promueve a esta "supuesta" organización, que hace mucho ruido para ser una supuesta organización, ya me imagino a un miembro de la izquierda diciendo "bunch of mochos", sencillamente no tiene sentido, aquellos a quienes se les refiere como mochos*, son precisamente los que defienden y promueven a la "derecha".
Incubo
aside from being poorly written, the third paragraph of this article features condenatory (condemnatory ) phrases, of ironic nature when it refers to the yunque "being as evil as the boogeyman". It would greatly help its informative qualities if that part was left out or edited.
The previously mentioned condemnatory phrases of ironic nature have been removed a while ago. I've added some testimony about El Yunque from a recognized ex-member (former mayor of Puebla), the source is not a left-wing publication, but surprisingly, a right-wing website (with alleged ties to El Yunque) which incidentally states that it is linked to the PAN. Perhaps it's time to remove the questioned neutrality note on this article. . 201.116.131.166 04:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)José Guzmán.
Might want to remove the "alleged" descriptions and the "Mexican conspiracy theories" category and put the article on par with the Spanish version of the article. There have been more news articles on the subject matter released in recent years (Spanish-speaking, for the most part), delving more into the group's activities and its actions as both a political organization and a paramilitary group.
I see that the talk in this page is over a decade old, and that this article is listed as "low priority" in both the Mexico and the Conservatorism portal, it might be time to brush up on it a little. 2806:1016:D:7FF6:A5AE:AB59:BF83:3F4D ( talk) 10:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)