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Polaron, you have not provided any basis for your "accuracy" banner. With all due respect since this is up for DYK nomination I must insist that you explain this immediately or I have to remove the banner as vandalism.
-- Mcorazao ( talk) 19:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
This region is not a single metropolitan area and should not be treated as such. There is no freedom of movement of labor across the border. Further, while there may be continuity of urbanization between some parts of Ciudad Juarez and El Paso, Las Cruces is not in any way connected by urbanization to the other two and there is insufficient worker flow across the two areas. -- Polaron | Talk 19:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I will change some of the phrasing in the lead of the article as well as rename the article to a more appropriate name. -- Polaron | Talk 20:01, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Many people misuse the term metropolitan area to mean any urban region. There is no established urban geography source that would treat this as a single metropolitan area. Neither government treats this as a single metropolitan area. -- Polaron | Talk 20:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved back to previous name without prejudice for new discussion, open for new Requested Move. doncram ( talk) 00:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
El Paso–Juárez region →
El Paso-Juárez Metropolitan Area — The name change to this page was made without consensus (deliberately without consensus). I asked that this be undone so that the discussion about the name could continue (continuing the discussion on this page is rewarding bad behavior) but Sarek has chosen to close that discussion. I am renewing my request through this forum. As I have stated before, I open to discussing this but only if it is done ethically and constructively.
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The result of the move request was: Close - Page already moved to agreed new name Ronhjones (Talk) 20:32, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
El Paso-Juárez Metropolitan Area → El Paso–Juárez area — The conurbation of El Paso and Juarez is not universally considered as a single metropolitan area because there is no free flow of commuters across the international border. Certainly, no urban geography source does. A more generic, non-loaded name would be more appropriate. This is also borne out by Google hits, with less than 400 hits for the current name [1] and over 100,000 for the generic name [2]. -- Polaron | Talk 01:48, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::::If its a bi-country metropolitan area, like
San Diego Tijuana then keep it, if its not then change it to El Paso-Juárez area or El Paso-Juárez (region).
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Lets wait to see if we get more responses and not any one can add it to the RfC. House1090 ( talk) 22:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
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Polaron, you have not provided any basis for your "accuracy" banner. With all due respect since this is up for DYK nomination I must insist that you explain this immediately or I have to remove the banner as vandalism.
-- Mcorazao ( talk) 19:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
This region is not a single metropolitan area and should not be treated as such. There is no freedom of movement of labor across the border. Further, while there may be continuity of urbanization between some parts of Ciudad Juarez and El Paso, Las Cruces is not in any way connected by urbanization to the other two and there is insufficient worker flow across the two areas. -- Polaron | Talk 19:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I will change some of the phrasing in the lead of the article as well as rename the article to a more appropriate name. -- Polaron | Talk 20:01, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Many people misuse the term metropolitan area to mean any urban region. There is no established urban geography source that would treat this as a single metropolitan area. Neither government treats this as a single metropolitan area. -- Polaron | Talk 20:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved back to previous name without prejudice for new discussion, open for new Requested Move. doncram ( talk) 00:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
El Paso–Juárez region →
El Paso-Juárez Metropolitan Area — The name change to this page was made without consensus (deliberately without consensus). I asked that this be undone so that the discussion about the name could continue (continuing the discussion on this page is rewarding bad behavior) but Sarek has chosen to close that discussion. I am renewing my request through this forum. As I have stated before, I open to discussing this but only if it is done ethically and constructively.
Mcorazao (
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22:12, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Close - Page already moved to agreed new name Ronhjones (Talk) 20:32, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
El Paso-Juárez Metropolitan Area → El Paso–Juárez area — The conurbation of El Paso and Juarez is not universally considered as a single metropolitan area because there is no free flow of commuters across the international border. Certainly, no urban geography source does. A more generic, non-loaded name would be more appropriate. This is also borne out by Google hits, with less than 400 hits for the current name [1] and over 100,000 for the generic name [2]. -- Polaron | Talk 01:48, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::::If its a bi-country metropolitan area, like
San Diego Tijuana then keep it, if its not then change it to El Paso-Juárez area or El Paso-Juárez (region).
House1090 (
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23:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Lets wait to see if we get more responses and not any one can add it to the RfC. House1090 ( talk) 22:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
For whatever reason this article has stirred some passions. May I suggest a couple of things for the sake of constructive progress:
-- Mcorazao ( talk) 04:41, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of El Paso–Juárez's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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