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I have removed these from the article. These links would be entirely appropriate in a Hebrew or Russian wikipedia article on the Egged Bus Cooperative, but are inappropriate in the english language wikipedia article. To help any future translators, I reproduce the links here:
-- Chris j wood 11:04, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
What is the name history, please? Egg reads like vandalism, or an onboard delicatessen | diner.
Thank You.
[[ hopiakuta | [[ [[%c2%a1]] [[%c2%bf]] [[ %7e%7e%7e%7e ]] -]] 17:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC) Hayyim Nahman Bialik offers this name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayyim_Nahman_Bialik -- 79.176.69.57 ( talk) 19:58, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
The content in this section of the article is extremely one sided, It makes no mention that the Mehadrin busses are voluntary and that there are other Non-mehadrin buses. They are presented in a completely negative light counter to the opinion of the residents that use those lines. These lines are created at the request of the residents, and egged complies because a majority of their customers in those area will go to another company if egged does not provide them with the ability to practice their religion as they see fit. yisraeldov 18:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
All Wikipedia articles and other encyclopedic content must be written from a neutral point of view, representing views fairly, proportionately and without bias.
Italivivi we don't know that that's what happened. It's being investigated and it certainly doesn't mean that it generaly happens. The fact that this case is being investigated as to whether she was assaulted is known to you and you still did not want to include that. You have been always pushing a POV on this and I have never said that it did happen or did not. Yisraelasper
I am not a suspected sock puppet. You gave false evidence and on that basis I was cleared. Isn't it strange how you claimed one sockpuppet as a possibility and now you charge possibly more. I wasn't aware of this article until you brought it up with your lies. I now thanks to your vindictiveness am aware of this article. You caused me then to contribute to it in the only way I would have. This was my my first contribution to this article and you deleted it. You are a vandal as you acknowledged that the part of her claim I say is under investigation,is and yet you deleted this information. You are constantly deleting information and getting vindictive and lying and getting banned.
You claimed that Yisraeldov came after I ceased contributing to any article. He did not. He was at the same time and his first contribution was before the Miriam Shear incident even happened. You claimed I was a one issue account. I am not. You therefore based your claim of sockpuppetry on lies both as to when contributions were made by me and Yisraeldov and on what contributions I made.
You failed to mention that I was in 2005 before the Miriam Shear 2006 incident contributing and that my last contribution was on a previous topic of mine. You deleted information from the Miriam Shear article just like here, information saying what part of her claim is still being investigated. The only time I deleted supposed information from it was when you removed that piece of information so I thought that an unverified claim shouldn't appear in an article. Stop being a vindictive liar. You scare away contributions with your vindictiveness. Which is what you try to do. Yisraelasper
Italiavivi You gave a title to your deletion saying I'm Haredi. I'm not Haredi. If you don't know enough about Judaism and Jews perhaps you should not make comments and show off your ignorance. Yisraelasper
I see Italiavivi that you made a now removed by me suspected sockpuppet warning for User:71.206.196.185 a user that wasn't a user. I removed your sign. It was me forgetting to log in responding to you but since I was editing myself and yet with the first contribution at least putting in a new paragraph and putting my user name with that one too Yisraelasper so of course I was letting all know it's me! Yisraelasper
It happened today that I forgot to log in so for this article you find a contribution by 71.199.123.246. Maybe I should accuse you Italiavivi of sockpuppetry if ever you don't log in and so an IP shows up that seems like it's from you. Maybe I should check to see if it ever happened. I only found out about your IP accusations because I was checking your record. Yisraelasper
I put the POV tag back, It looks like the discussion died because of the Sock Puppet accusations, Please discuss here and come to an agreement before removing yisraeldov ( talk) 12:08, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Whjat I found amazing is that the article only mentions one incident whereas assaults on women sitting in the wrong place on the bus are far more widespread (). Also completely missing is any mention of the court battle and rulings against segregation. Rafistern —Preceding undated comment added 09:59, 20 June 2010 (UTC).
They are mostly hasidic... mitnagidim and sephardim have no problem with mixed buses as it isn't a halachic issue. Chacham Yosef would sit next to women on buses. I don't think he pays too much attention anyway. There is that famous story about how his wife sat next to him and he never realized…
Should also mention most mehadrin buses are those doubles buses and women normally use the middle entreance and pay themselves. 124.170.180.75 06:49, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Or not. See | Shocking numbers regarding mehadrin bus lines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafistern ( talk • contribs) 10:06, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I added the npov tag because only one viewpoint mostly amoung the hasidic world is represented as a view of all Haredim. Many Haredim do not support segregated buses and believe anyway spending time trying to get them segregated is wasting their time that should be rather spent studying Torah which is far more important. In this view wasting such time is a violation of multiple negative commandments, including chillul hashem. Of this opinion is Chacham Yosef. 124.170.180.75 07:05, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 08:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
This sentence was confusing:
There is no suggestion elsewhere in the article that the company is owned by the state and not its members. I think the original writer meant "deregulation" so I changed it. -- Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) ( Talk) 13:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
This cat was crated for Israeli companies operating in the occupied territories, not any other reason [1] and this company is a part of it. -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 22:09, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
The category is in the process of being deleted, as an identical category with two words rearranged was deleted recently and this one was created in the middle of that process simply as a way to avoid the result. Rather than causing drama, leave this article alone and enjoy your category during the little time it has left. Breein1007 ( talk) 22:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
But this be different category, not same, so not relevant for old category Ani medjool ( talk)
Hard to think editor be in good faith when them refuse discuss their opinion, but if you believe such to keep you opinion silent, then will respect that. Ani medjool ( talk)
Relevant articles which I haven't had time to go over:
— Ynhockey ( Talk) 22:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I have shortened the 'mehadrin-bus'-section, as there is a main article now. The paragraph should IMO be shortened even more, it is still far too long in relation to the rest of the article. Ajnem ( talk) 15:22, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
A lot of information has been deleted without giving a good reason. It is relevant for readers to know that the sale of the Jerusalem Light Rail from Veolia to Egged has stalled. Also that Egged is inheriting a boycott situation if the purchase of the light rail goes through. I appreciate that this page is not about Veolia; it is about Egged and Egged has agreed to buy the light rail with all its legacy. Nescio vos ( talk) 16:38, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
I believe Egged is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC so this article should be titled Egged and the current Egged page should become a disambiguation. If you disagree, [[WP:BRD\\ applies. Chutznik ( talk) 05:22, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No move. There's no consensus that this or any of the options is the primary topic. The dab page has already been restored to Egged. Cúchullain t/ c 14:33, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Egged (company) →
Egged – Egged the bus company is
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.
Chutznik (
talk)
05:29, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
JHunterJ and I disagree about the first word to be listed at Egged (disambiguation) (assuming that this move request doesn't have the votes to pass, even though I still believe that the bus company is the primary topic). It's bad enough that a bus company that is actually named Egged -- that is exactly the name, letter for letter -- should not get its own article under its own name out of concern for confusion over Egging. But to put egging ahead of Egged the bus company on the disambiguation page? I find that deeply offensive, close minded, anti Israel and irrational. We desperately need a consensus saying that Egged (company) is more likely what readers are looking for than "egging". It really is obvious to me, but apparently JHunterJ (and others here) just don't get it. I'm prepared to get into a revert war over this, but I would much prefer if people can just agree that I'm right because, after all, I'm right. Chutznik ( talk) 23:54, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
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I have removed these from the article. These links would be entirely appropriate in a Hebrew or Russian wikipedia article on the Egged Bus Cooperative, but are inappropriate in the english language wikipedia article. To help any future translators, I reproduce the links here:
-- Chris j wood 11:04, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
What is the name history, please? Egg reads like vandalism, or an onboard delicatessen | diner.
Thank You.
[[ hopiakuta | [[ [[%c2%a1]] [[%c2%bf]] [[ %7e%7e%7e%7e ]] -]] 17:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC) Hayyim Nahman Bialik offers this name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayyim_Nahman_Bialik -- 79.176.69.57 ( talk) 19:58, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
The content in this section of the article is extremely one sided, It makes no mention that the Mehadrin busses are voluntary and that there are other Non-mehadrin buses. They are presented in a completely negative light counter to the opinion of the residents that use those lines. These lines are created at the request of the residents, and egged complies because a majority of their customers in those area will go to another company if egged does not provide them with the ability to practice their religion as they see fit. yisraeldov 18:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
All Wikipedia articles and other encyclopedic content must be written from a neutral point of view, representing views fairly, proportionately and without bias.
Italivivi we don't know that that's what happened. It's being investigated and it certainly doesn't mean that it generaly happens. The fact that this case is being investigated as to whether she was assaulted is known to you and you still did not want to include that. You have been always pushing a POV on this and I have never said that it did happen or did not. Yisraelasper
I am not a suspected sock puppet. You gave false evidence and on that basis I was cleared. Isn't it strange how you claimed one sockpuppet as a possibility and now you charge possibly more. I wasn't aware of this article until you brought it up with your lies. I now thanks to your vindictiveness am aware of this article. You caused me then to contribute to it in the only way I would have. This was my my first contribution to this article and you deleted it. You are a vandal as you acknowledged that the part of her claim I say is under investigation,is and yet you deleted this information. You are constantly deleting information and getting vindictive and lying and getting banned.
You claimed that Yisraeldov came after I ceased contributing to any article. He did not. He was at the same time and his first contribution was before the Miriam Shear incident even happened. You claimed I was a one issue account. I am not. You therefore based your claim of sockpuppetry on lies both as to when contributions were made by me and Yisraeldov and on what contributions I made.
You failed to mention that I was in 2005 before the Miriam Shear 2006 incident contributing and that my last contribution was on a previous topic of mine. You deleted information from the Miriam Shear article just like here, information saying what part of her claim is still being investigated. The only time I deleted supposed information from it was when you removed that piece of information so I thought that an unverified claim shouldn't appear in an article. Stop being a vindictive liar. You scare away contributions with your vindictiveness. Which is what you try to do. Yisraelasper
Italiavivi You gave a title to your deletion saying I'm Haredi. I'm not Haredi. If you don't know enough about Judaism and Jews perhaps you should not make comments and show off your ignorance. Yisraelasper
I see Italiavivi that you made a now removed by me suspected sockpuppet warning for User:71.206.196.185 a user that wasn't a user. I removed your sign. It was me forgetting to log in responding to you but since I was editing myself and yet with the first contribution at least putting in a new paragraph and putting my user name with that one too Yisraelasper so of course I was letting all know it's me! Yisraelasper
It happened today that I forgot to log in so for this article you find a contribution by 71.199.123.246. Maybe I should accuse you Italiavivi of sockpuppetry if ever you don't log in and so an IP shows up that seems like it's from you. Maybe I should check to see if it ever happened. I only found out about your IP accusations because I was checking your record. Yisraelasper
I put the POV tag back, It looks like the discussion died because of the Sock Puppet accusations, Please discuss here and come to an agreement before removing yisraeldov ( talk) 12:08, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Whjat I found amazing is that the article only mentions one incident whereas assaults on women sitting in the wrong place on the bus are far more widespread (). Also completely missing is any mention of the court battle and rulings against segregation. Rafistern —Preceding undated comment added 09:59, 20 June 2010 (UTC).
They are mostly hasidic... mitnagidim and sephardim have no problem with mixed buses as it isn't a halachic issue. Chacham Yosef would sit next to women on buses. I don't think he pays too much attention anyway. There is that famous story about how his wife sat next to him and he never realized…
Should also mention most mehadrin buses are those doubles buses and women normally use the middle entreance and pay themselves. 124.170.180.75 06:49, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Or not. See | Shocking numbers regarding mehadrin bus lines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafistern ( talk • contribs) 10:06, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I added the npov tag because only one viewpoint mostly amoung the hasidic world is represented as a view of all Haredim. Many Haredim do not support segregated buses and believe anyway spending time trying to get them segregated is wasting their time that should be rather spent studying Torah which is far more important. In this view wasting such time is a violation of multiple negative commandments, including chillul hashem. Of this opinion is Chacham Yosef. 124.170.180.75 07:05, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 08:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
This sentence was confusing:
There is no suggestion elsewhere in the article that the company is owned by the state and not its members. I think the original writer meant "deregulation" so I changed it. -- Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) ( Talk) 13:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
This cat was crated for Israeli companies operating in the occupied territories, not any other reason [1] and this company is a part of it. -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 22:09, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
The category is in the process of being deleted, as an identical category with two words rearranged was deleted recently and this one was created in the middle of that process simply as a way to avoid the result. Rather than causing drama, leave this article alone and enjoy your category during the little time it has left. Breein1007 ( talk) 22:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
But this be different category, not same, so not relevant for old category Ani medjool ( talk)
Hard to think editor be in good faith when them refuse discuss their opinion, but if you believe such to keep you opinion silent, then will respect that. Ani medjool ( talk)
Relevant articles which I haven't had time to go over:
— Ynhockey ( Talk) 22:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I have shortened the 'mehadrin-bus'-section, as there is a main article now. The paragraph should IMO be shortened even more, it is still far too long in relation to the rest of the article. Ajnem ( talk) 15:22, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
A lot of information has been deleted without giving a good reason. It is relevant for readers to know that the sale of the Jerusalem Light Rail from Veolia to Egged has stalled. Also that Egged is inheriting a boycott situation if the purchase of the light rail goes through. I appreciate that this page is not about Veolia; it is about Egged and Egged has agreed to buy the light rail with all its legacy. Nescio vos ( talk) 16:38, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
I believe Egged is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC so this article should be titled Egged and the current Egged page should become a disambiguation. If you disagree, [[WP:BRD\\ applies. Chutznik ( talk) 05:22, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No move. There's no consensus that this or any of the options is the primary topic. The dab page has already been restored to Egged. Cúchullain t/ c 14:33, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Egged (company) →
Egged – Egged the bus company is
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.
Chutznik (
talk)
05:29, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
JHunterJ and I disagree about the first word to be listed at Egged (disambiguation) (assuming that this move request doesn't have the votes to pass, even though I still believe that the bus company is the primary topic). It's bad enough that a bus company that is actually named Egged -- that is exactly the name, letter for letter -- should not get its own article under its own name out of concern for confusion over Egging. But to put egging ahead of Egged the bus company on the disambiguation page? I find that deeply offensive, close minded, anti Israel and irrational. We desperately need a consensus saying that Egged (company) is more likely what readers are looking for than "egging". It really is obvious to me, but apparently JHunterJ (and others here) just don't get it. I'm prepared to get into a revert war over this, but I would much prefer if people can just agree that I'm right because, after all, I'm right. Chutznik ( talk) 23:54, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
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