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This article has major NPOV and sourcing problems and should be rewritten.
I removed this part: "Efrat is not political and believes in empowering women to make informed decisions regarding their pregnancy. The women Efrat supports often feel that before learning of Efrat they were led to believe they have no choice but to terminate their pregnancy. Efrat provides them hope and continued support."
How can an organization that distributes an anti-abortion propaganda film to all members of the Israeli parliament not be political? Preventing an abortion is political, even more so in that part of the planet. "who was concerned ... that unnecessary abortions were causing the Jewish population to decline." https://i.imgur.com/jOOPALV.jpeg
"empowering women to make informed decisions" is a really weird way of saying they are trying to convince them to do what they want them to do. This is not a neutral way to describe attempts to prevent abortions.
"were led to believe they have no choice but to terminate their pregnancy" Yet another unsourced claim
"Efrat provides them hope and continued support." Promotional language
Polygnotus ( talk) 08:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
The article states:
"Most abortions in Israel are motivated by financial difficulties, rather than the desire to not be pregnant or to not have children."
The first source did not support the claim made in the article, and I removed it.
The second source says: "Statistics show that the majority of abortions in Israel are performed due to financial problems, and this is the source of Dr. Schussheim’s rallying cry: “You don’t end a life because of money!”"
The third source explains where this claim came from: "According to Schussheim, 60 percent of Israeli abortions stem from financial concerns."
Schussheim is the ex-president of Efrat.
Polygnotus ( talk) 08:40, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
The criticism section appears to be a criticism-debunk section with gems like:
"The latter criticism is directly contradicted by the facts"
"Another criticism was that the organization would station women outside offices where abortion permits are issued, with the aim of appealing to women visiting the offices.[citation needed] Efrat does not station women outside of clinics where abortions take place"
An office where the permits are issued is not a clinic.
Polygnotus ( talk) 09:49, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
https://www.jpost.com/national-news/activists-protest-granting-award-to-pro-life-group
mentions some of the criticism and the shooting
https://www.rd.nl/oud/010131home.html?pg=kl%2F010131kl05.html
mentions the methods of Efrat.
https://www.jpost.com/national-news/feminists-to-protest-anti-abortion-groups-prize
mentions the award-related protest, the shooting
"Raucher's research reveals that in contrast to other pro-life organizations around the world, privately funded Efrat offers financial support only to Jewish Israeli women and calls into question two primary concerns:
In an interview with Raucher's colleague Rebecca Steinfeld, an independent scholar originally from Stanford University, Dr. Eli Schussheim, director of Efrat explained that he has approached the Israeli government with the request to divert money away from 'external aliyah,' or encouraging Jews to immigrate, and move it towards 'inner aliyah' through abortion prevention. He says this is the only way to compete with the Arab birth rate in Israel. Schussheim says, 'We should imitate the Arabs; we should make higher births like the Arabs; we should reduce the abortions."
...
"The paradoxical irony, however, is that many of these women already have large families with low income and according to Raucher, in spite of Efrat's help, they still eventually end up on welfare subsidy."
So that claim about being non-political...
Searching for sources in English is complicated because Efrat is also a place and a name. Polygnotus ( talk) 12:29, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
In 1962, in response to well publicized declines in the rate of Jewish births, Efrat, the anti-abortion group noted above, was established. Its full name at the time was "Efrat - Association for the Encouragement of Fertility among the Jewish People." Efrat initially promoted general pronatalist policies and social norms, rather than anti-abortion legislation. However, by 1965, Efrat was actively calling for stricter enforcement of dormant abortion prohibitions.
Wars of the Wombs: Struggles Over Abortion Policies in Israel
In 2000, Haredi MKs disrupted a meeting on abortion of the Knesset’s Committee for the Advancement of the Status of Women to distribute material from Efrat, and Shas MK Nissim Ze’ev demanded members of Efrat be allowed to sit on abortion committees. But this demand was unsuc- cessful.98 Meanwhile Efrat has enjoyed only limited official support: It is referred cases by social workers,99 entitled to National Service volunteers, and Schussheim claimed that current prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, asked to meet with him in 1996, and expressed agreement with Efrat’s position.100 But it has not received direct assistance, its activities have not become official policy, and it is important to note that an array of other organizations is also entitled to National Service volunteers.101
{{cite journal |ref=none |no-tracking=yes<!-- prevents error categorization --> |last=Zack-Pakes |first=Joanne |date=31 July 1998 |title=Abortion in Israel |work=NCJW Journal |publisher=National Council of Jewish Women |location=New York |page=6 |url=https://www.proquest.com/docview/229503392?sourcetype=Scholarly%20Journals |access-date= |isbn= |issn=0161-2115 |oclc= }}
The anti-abortion movement in Israel is led by Efrat, a non-profit organization centered in Jerusalem. Public information campaigns encouraging continuation of an unplanned pregnancy as well as financial assistance to those women with an unplanned pregnancy are the main methods Efrat uses to influence women not to abort. Unlike the United States where violence has been used against abortion providers, the tactics utilized by Efrat are directed at the women seeking an abortion: instilling fear regarding the risks of abortion and its potential to make women infertile, and guilt regarding "killing" the unborn child. There have been several headline-making incidents of Efrat volunteers harassing women applying for abortions in hospitals by pulling out pictures of fetuses in order to intimidate them.
Imported problem definitions, legal culture and the local dynamics of Israeli abortion politics contains the following:
Speaking to the incentives to camouflage the religious motivations behind anti-abortion positions, a 1984 editorial in a newsletter published by Efrat, the primary group active in the anti abortion front, stated:
We should develop ideas and present facts before the general public. We should not use religious arguments in front of them. There are plenty of philosophical, moral, demographic and health reasons to oppose abortions. ... Religious justifications may lead the secular public to think that this is just another religious observance.
page 232
Regretting Motherhood: A Sociopolitical Analysis
In practice, Efrat runs massive and wide-ranging campaigns in the press, on the radio, on billboards, and through pamphlets distributed to people’s homes and in hospitals —all of which are aimed at encouraging Jewish women to refrain from abortion.
p349
Polygnotus 22:27, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
The Criticism section contained the following
The latter criticism is directly contradicted by the facts — the religious stance of the organization{{fact|date=February 2024}} is that Jewish law ([[Halakha|halacha]]) actually ''requires'' abortion in a case that involves medical danger to the mother, as her life takes precedence over that of an unborn fetus.<ref>[[Immanuel Jakobovits]], [https://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4366&context=caselrev Jewish Views on Abortion]</ref>
That PDF is interesting and worth reading, but it doesn't support the claim made in the article. Polygnotus ( talk) 12:54, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
The Criticism section contained the following:
Efrat does not station women outside of clinics where abortions take place.<ref name=":7">{{Cite news |last=Sales |first=Ben |date=26 February 2014 |title=Israeli group tries to prevent, not outlaw abortion: Efrat, whose leader describes himself as pro-choice, has never protested outside a gynecological clinic, nor does it plan to |url=https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-group-tries-to-prevent-not-outlaw-abortion/ |work=[[The Times of Israel]]}}</ref>
The article contains the sentence:
"Efrat has never protested outside a gynecological clinic, nor has it sought to restrict Israel’s fairly liberal abortion laws."
The TOI article, and this claim in particular, seems to be based purely on the word of Schussheim.
If we look at a more reliable source it says:
" Yaël Dayan, knessetlid en voorzitster van het knessetcomité voor de bevordering van de status van vrouwen in Israël, vindt dat er een wet moet komen die de wat zij noemt „commando's van Efrat” de toegang tot ziekenhuizen verbiedt. Ze zegt vele klachten te hebben gekregen van vrouwen die een abortus wilden plegen en werden lastig gevallen door de Efrat-activisten."
Which (Google) translates to :
" Yaël Dayan, Knesset member and chairwoman of the Knesset Committee for the Advancement of the Status of Women in Israel, believes there should be a law banning what she calls “Efrat commandos” from entering hospitals. She says she has received many complaints from women who wanted to have an abortion and were harassed by the Efrat activists." Polygnotus ( talk) 13:06, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
I can't access the source to pull the correct date, but the date is wrong in the Awards section. Maybe it was meant to say 2012? BaduFerreira ( talk) 15:01, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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This article has major NPOV and sourcing problems and should be rewritten.
I removed this part: "Efrat is not political and believes in empowering women to make informed decisions regarding their pregnancy. The women Efrat supports often feel that before learning of Efrat they were led to believe they have no choice but to terminate their pregnancy. Efrat provides them hope and continued support."
How can an organization that distributes an anti-abortion propaganda film to all members of the Israeli parliament not be political? Preventing an abortion is political, even more so in that part of the planet. "who was concerned ... that unnecessary abortions were causing the Jewish population to decline." https://i.imgur.com/jOOPALV.jpeg
"empowering women to make informed decisions" is a really weird way of saying they are trying to convince them to do what they want them to do. This is not a neutral way to describe attempts to prevent abortions.
"were led to believe they have no choice but to terminate their pregnancy" Yet another unsourced claim
"Efrat provides them hope and continued support." Promotional language
Polygnotus ( talk) 08:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
The article states:
"Most abortions in Israel are motivated by financial difficulties, rather than the desire to not be pregnant or to not have children."
The first source did not support the claim made in the article, and I removed it.
The second source says: "Statistics show that the majority of abortions in Israel are performed due to financial problems, and this is the source of Dr. Schussheim’s rallying cry: “You don’t end a life because of money!”"
The third source explains where this claim came from: "According to Schussheim, 60 percent of Israeli abortions stem from financial concerns."
Schussheim is the ex-president of Efrat.
Polygnotus ( talk) 08:40, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
The criticism section appears to be a criticism-debunk section with gems like:
"The latter criticism is directly contradicted by the facts"
"Another criticism was that the organization would station women outside offices where abortion permits are issued, with the aim of appealing to women visiting the offices.[citation needed] Efrat does not station women outside of clinics where abortions take place"
An office where the permits are issued is not a clinic.
Polygnotus ( talk) 09:49, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
https://www.jpost.com/national-news/activists-protest-granting-award-to-pro-life-group
mentions some of the criticism and the shooting
https://www.rd.nl/oud/010131home.html?pg=kl%2F010131kl05.html
mentions the methods of Efrat.
https://www.jpost.com/national-news/feminists-to-protest-anti-abortion-groups-prize
mentions the award-related protest, the shooting
"Raucher's research reveals that in contrast to other pro-life organizations around the world, privately funded Efrat offers financial support only to Jewish Israeli women and calls into question two primary concerns:
In an interview with Raucher's colleague Rebecca Steinfeld, an independent scholar originally from Stanford University, Dr. Eli Schussheim, director of Efrat explained that he has approached the Israeli government with the request to divert money away from 'external aliyah,' or encouraging Jews to immigrate, and move it towards 'inner aliyah' through abortion prevention. He says this is the only way to compete with the Arab birth rate in Israel. Schussheim says, 'We should imitate the Arabs; we should make higher births like the Arabs; we should reduce the abortions."
...
"The paradoxical irony, however, is that many of these women already have large families with low income and according to Raucher, in spite of Efrat's help, they still eventually end up on welfare subsidy."
So that claim about being non-political...
Searching for sources in English is complicated because Efrat is also a place and a name. Polygnotus ( talk) 12:29, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
In 1962, in response to well publicized declines in the rate of Jewish births, Efrat, the anti-abortion group noted above, was established. Its full name at the time was "Efrat - Association for the Encouragement of Fertility among the Jewish People." Efrat initially promoted general pronatalist policies and social norms, rather than anti-abortion legislation. However, by 1965, Efrat was actively calling for stricter enforcement of dormant abortion prohibitions.
Wars of the Wombs: Struggles Over Abortion Policies in Israel
In 2000, Haredi MKs disrupted a meeting on abortion of the Knesset’s Committee for the Advancement of the Status of Women to distribute material from Efrat, and Shas MK Nissim Ze’ev demanded members of Efrat be allowed to sit on abortion committees. But this demand was unsuc- cessful.98 Meanwhile Efrat has enjoyed only limited official support: It is referred cases by social workers,99 entitled to National Service volunteers, and Schussheim claimed that current prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, asked to meet with him in 1996, and expressed agreement with Efrat’s position.100 But it has not received direct assistance, its activities have not become official policy, and it is important to note that an array of other organizations is also entitled to National Service volunteers.101
{{cite journal |ref=none |no-tracking=yes<!-- prevents error categorization --> |last=Zack-Pakes |first=Joanne |date=31 July 1998 |title=Abortion in Israel |work=NCJW Journal |publisher=National Council of Jewish Women |location=New York |page=6 |url=https://www.proquest.com/docview/229503392?sourcetype=Scholarly%20Journals |access-date= |isbn= |issn=0161-2115 |oclc= }}
The anti-abortion movement in Israel is led by Efrat, a non-profit organization centered in Jerusalem. Public information campaigns encouraging continuation of an unplanned pregnancy as well as financial assistance to those women with an unplanned pregnancy are the main methods Efrat uses to influence women not to abort. Unlike the United States where violence has been used against abortion providers, the tactics utilized by Efrat are directed at the women seeking an abortion: instilling fear regarding the risks of abortion and its potential to make women infertile, and guilt regarding "killing" the unborn child. There have been several headline-making incidents of Efrat volunteers harassing women applying for abortions in hospitals by pulling out pictures of fetuses in order to intimidate them.
Imported problem definitions, legal culture and the local dynamics of Israeli abortion politics contains the following:
Speaking to the incentives to camouflage the religious motivations behind anti-abortion positions, a 1984 editorial in a newsletter published by Efrat, the primary group active in the anti abortion front, stated:
We should develop ideas and present facts before the general public. We should not use religious arguments in front of them. There are plenty of philosophical, moral, demographic and health reasons to oppose abortions. ... Religious justifications may lead the secular public to think that this is just another religious observance.
page 232
Regretting Motherhood: A Sociopolitical Analysis
In practice, Efrat runs massive and wide-ranging campaigns in the press, on the radio, on billboards, and through pamphlets distributed to people’s homes and in hospitals —all of which are aimed at encouraging Jewish women to refrain from abortion.
p349
Polygnotus 22:27, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
The Criticism section contained the following
The latter criticism is directly contradicted by the facts — the religious stance of the organization{{fact|date=February 2024}} is that Jewish law ([[Halakha|halacha]]) actually ''requires'' abortion in a case that involves medical danger to the mother, as her life takes precedence over that of an unborn fetus.<ref>[[Immanuel Jakobovits]], [https://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4366&context=caselrev Jewish Views on Abortion]</ref>
That PDF is interesting and worth reading, but it doesn't support the claim made in the article. Polygnotus ( talk) 12:54, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
The Criticism section contained the following:
Efrat does not station women outside of clinics where abortions take place.<ref name=":7">{{Cite news |last=Sales |first=Ben |date=26 February 2014 |title=Israeli group tries to prevent, not outlaw abortion: Efrat, whose leader describes himself as pro-choice, has never protested outside a gynecological clinic, nor does it plan to |url=https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-group-tries-to-prevent-not-outlaw-abortion/ |work=[[The Times of Israel]]}}</ref>
The article contains the sentence:
"Efrat has never protested outside a gynecological clinic, nor has it sought to restrict Israel’s fairly liberal abortion laws."
The TOI article, and this claim in particular, seems to be based purely on the word of Schussheim.
If we look at a more reliable source it says:
" Yaël Dayan, knessetlid en voorzitster van het knessetcomité voor de bevordering van de status van vrouwen in Israël, vindt dat er een wet moet komen die de wat zij noemt „commando's van Efrat” de toegang tot ziekenhuizen verbiedt. Ze zegt vele klachten te hebben gekregen van vrouwen die een abortus wilden plegen en werden lastig gevallen door de Efrat-activisten."
Which (Google) translates to :
" Yaël Dayan, Knesset member and chairwoman of the Knesset Committee for the Advancement of the Status of Women in Israel, believes there should be a law banning what she calls “Efrat commandos” from entering hospitals. She says she has received many complaints from women who wanted to have an abortion and were harassed by the Efrat activists." Polygnotus ( talk) 13:06, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
I can't access the source to pull the correct date, but the date is wrong in the Awards section. Maybe it was meant to say 2012? BaduFerreira ( talk) 15:01, 19 February 2024 (UTC)