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Today's article on BBC News ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20019993) says that a Telegraph article reports she appointed the serial paedophile Jimmy Savile to the taskforce at Broadmoor hospital, where he sexually assaulted detained in-patients. Whether this was linked to her securing contracts with the BBC after being forced to resign from politics isn't clear, but it would undoubtedly be worth including a section on her involvement in this scandal and cover up, particularly since she has been so scathing of others caught up in scandals less horrific than serial child sex abuse (e.g. http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9415000/9415640.stm). 212.139.96.62 ( talk) 13:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)UncleHack 212.139.96.62 ( talk) 13:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
On Radio 5 Live (hosted by Steve Nolan, broadcast 17/10/11), Ms. Currie dismissed 2 of the phone-in guests statements when they mentioned the true level of poverty in the UK: it was suggested by one (a care worker) that many in the UK were having to choose between paying for food or heating their homes. She stated that 'No one in the UK is going without food', an amazing statement given that the Trussel Trust are currently operating 'Food Banks' across the UK (< http://www.trusselltrust.org/foodbank-projects>), who state that 'every day, people in the UK are going hungry' on their website, and to whom over 60, 000 people had to turn for help last year alone. Ms. Currie accused people who claimed people were starving as being politically motivated - does anyone know whether the TT have any political affiliations at all? She is clearly out of touch with the realities facing thousands in the UK,but did serve in a Government at some stage in her show business career, and was I believe, a staunch ally of Ian D. Smith (the architect of the recent cuts to state welfare benefits that appear to have made a significant contribution to homelessness and destitution in the UK)- does anyone recall the Government she served in setting up food kitchens to which the unemployed were referred when their benefits were reduced? A link to a newspaper article would be of comparative interest. 212.139.96.215 ( talk) 12:02, 17 October 2011 (UTC)twl 212.139.96.215 ( talk) 12:02, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
With an anticipated 1/4 million housing benefit claimants in London no longer able to afford market rents in London alone due to impending cuts to Housing Benefits, I hope she read of the suicides of former soldier Mark Mullins and his disabled wife, reported in the Daily Mail [< http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2059238/Army-veteran-Mark-Mullins-wife-Helen-driven-suicide-poverty.html>] who killed themselves after 18 months of struggling to survive on the £57.50 Jobseeker's Allowance payment Mr Mullins, a 48-year-old former Army physical training instructor, was able to claim, having to walk 12 miles to eat free soup at a Salvation Army soup kitchen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.70.225.21 ( talk) 01:52, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
May be worth adding a link to a report by Professor John Hills (BBC: 19/10/2011) who, in an independent report commissioned by the Government, found that food and fuel poverty was responsible for 2,700 deaths in the UK last year. 212.139.102.225 ( talk) 14:33, 19 October 2011 (UTC)twl 212.139.102.225 ( talk) 14:33, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure about whether to add that in A Parliamentary Affair the focus is on a female MP with a teenage daughter who has an affair with her whip. By the time of the sequel that whip has become Prime Minister.
I would say no prizes for spotting the parrallels, but I haven't seen this one being raised anywhere else. Timrollpickering 14:20, 23 May 2004 (UTC)
I haven't changed it yet, but the para on her private life is very very non-NPOV. Re: her calling Jade Goody et al "slags", yes she did have an affair with John Major, but that's hardly in the same league as going on national television, stripping off and saying "You can see my kebab!" An interesting if somewhat disturbing vision there.... Milvinder 22:51, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
"It says I went to the upmarket Belvedere School alongside Derek Hatton - a bit difficult, that, since it was an all-girls school and I actually attended a State grammar school, the Liverpool Institute High School for Girls. It's wrong on other basics, such as the date I married my second husband, John Jones. [...] I blew steam, however, at the complete misrepresentation of the events surrounding the salmonella scare of 1988, which led to my resignation. [...] My appearance on TV's Hell's Kitchen was apparently 'somewhat overshadowed by rumours that she was having a transatlantic affair with actress Charlie Jubb'. Who? Never heard of her, never met her, as far as I know. I don't even think she exists. [...] So don't take this 'encyclopedia' seriously. It's less accurate than most gossip columns. If you need any information about me, go to edwina.currie.co.uk - what's there is the truth, as I wrote it myself. [1] WAS 4.250 00:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
EC appeared on Have I Got News For You (Season 6, Episode 1 -- it's on YouTube) as Paul's guest with Derek Hatton as Ian's guest. I quote: "Derek and I were at school together." Cross Reference ( talk) 14:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
"after continually reiterating that a majority of British eggs were infected with salmonella her position came into jeopardy. The amount of eggs infected by salmonella was actually a minority citation needed, so when Margaret Thatcher stated "I had eggs for breakfast", this forced Currie's resignation. " Removed the above as unsourced. I'm sure we all have memories of this era, but let's get some sources, folks. Rich Farmbrough, 10:16 11 March 2007 (GMT).
" The Belvedere School" Currie says she didn't go there. Rich Farmbrough, 10:38 11 March 2007 (GMT).
We should really have a section on Currie's famous gaffes about keeping warm. Rich Farmbrough, 11:50 11 March 2007 (GMT).
You may like to know this article has actually been read and commented on by Edwina Currie. Look here for the article. Eagle Owl 10:26, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
The wording here is quite confusing. The UK and American meaning of "tabling" is quite different. In UK, it means put up for active consideration, I gather. In America, the meaning is more like removed from active consideration. I do not know the actual facts, but I assume the former meaning is intended.
Can someone that knows, fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.59.135.10 ( talk) 00:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Is this section really necessary? It gives off the impression that she's some kind of musical artist, which she isn't; I don't think releasing a charity-single is really a reason for this stupid title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.33.230.34 ( talk) 23:50, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to get a photo of just her!
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It makes me laugh when it says "Currie (left)" I thought she was the one on the right... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.227.186.223 ( talk) 09:38, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Is the last sentence in that section (referring to Major's "Back to Basics" campaign) relevant to the subject of this article and to the account of the affair, without anything linking her to it? The campaign was a number of years after her affair with him, unrevealed until after his Premiership, ceased. Unless something can be produced that links her to this - say, cited reference to views she had on it, or anyone publicly commenting to link the campaign with the affair? - I would suggest it be deleted. Cloptonson ( talk) 21:48, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
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I feel like the inclusion of this needs to be justified and set into context, and really there should be something about her actual time as a minister if this sort of thing is going to be included as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:8642:0:DCBA:78EF:25CF:380A ( talk) 05:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
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Today's article on BBC News ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20019993) says that a Telegraph article reports she appointed the serial paedophile Jimmy Savile to the taskforce at Broadmoor hospital, where he sexually assaulted detained in-patients. Whether this was linked to her securing contracts with the BBC after being forced to resign from politics isn't clear, but it would undoubtedly be worth including a section on her involvement in this scandal and cover up, particularly since she has been so scathing of others caught up in scandals less horrific than serial child sex abuse (e.g. http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9415000/9415640.stm). 212.139.96.62 ( talk) 13:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)UncleHack 212.139.96.62 ( talk) 13:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
On Radio 5 Live (hosted by Steve Nolan, broadcast 17/10/11), Ms. Currie dismissed 2 of the phone-in guests statements when they mentioned the true level of poverty in the UK: it was suggested by one (a care worker) that many in the UK were having to choose between paying for food or heating their homes. She stated that 'No one in the UK is going without food', an amazing statement given that the Trussel Trust are currently operating 'Food Banks' across the UK (< http://www.trusselltrust.org/foodbank-projects>), who state that 'every day, people in the UK are going hungry' on their website, and to whom over 60, 000 people had to turn for help last year alone. Ms. Currie accused people who claimed people were starving as being politically motivated - does anyone know whether the TT have any political affiliations at all? She is clearly out of touch with the realities facing thousands in the UK,but did serve in a Government at some stage in her show business career, and was I believe, a staunch ally of Ian D. Smith (the architect of the recent cuts to state welfare benefits that appear to have made a significant contribution to homelessness and destitution in the UK)- does anyone recall the Government she served in setting up food kitchens to which the unemployed were referred when their benefits were reduced? A link to a newspaper article would be of comparative interest. 212.139.96.215 ( talk) 12:02, 17 October 2011 (UTC)twl 212.139.96.215 ( talk) 12:02, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
With an anticipated 1/4 million housing benefit claimants in London no longer able to afford market rents in London alone due to impending cuts to Housing Benefits, I hope she read of the suicides of former soldier Mark Mullins and his disabled wife, reported in the Daily Mail [< http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2059238/Army-veteran-Mark-Mullins-wife-Helen-driven-suicide-poverty.html>] who killed themselves after 18 months of struggling to survive on the £57.50 Jobseeker's Allowance payment Mr Mullins, a 48-year-old former Army physical training instructor, was able to claim, having to walk 12 miles to eat free soup at a Salvation Army soup kitchen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.70.225.21 ( talk) 01:52, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
May be worth adding a link to a report by Professor John Hills (BBC: 19/10/2011) who, in an independent report commissioned by the Government, found that food and fuel poverty was responsible for 2,700 deaths in the UK last year. 212.139.102.225 ( talk) 14:33, 19 October 2011 (UTC)twl 212.139.102.225 ( talk) 14:33, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure about whether to add that in A Parliamentary Affair the focus is on a female MP with a teenage daughter who has an affair with her whip. By the time of the sequel that whip has become Prime Minister.
I would say no prizes for spotting the parrallels, but I haven't seen this one being raised anywhere else. Timrollpickering 14:20, 23 May 2004 (UTC)
I haven't changed it yet, but the para on her private life is very very non-NPOV. Re: her calling Jade Goody et al "slags", yes she did have an affair with John Major, but that's hardly in the same league as going on national television, stripping off and saying "You can see my kebab!" An interesting if somewhat disturbing vision there.... Milvinder 22:51, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
"It says I went to the upmarket Belvedere School alongside Derek Hatton - a bit difficult, that, since it was an all-girls school and I actually attended a State grammar school, the Liverpool Institute High School for Girls. It's wrong on other basics, such as the date I married my second husband, John Jones. [...] I blew steam, however, at the complete misrepresentation of the events surrounding the salmonella scare of 1988, which led to my resignation. [...] My appearance on TV's Hell's Kitchen was apparently 'somewhat overshadowed by rumours that she was having a transatlantic affair with actress Charlie Jubb'. Who? Never heard of her, never met her, as far as I know. I don't even think she exists. [...] So don't take this 'encyclopedia' seriously. It's less accurate than most gossip columns. If you need any information about me, go to edwina.currie.co.uk - what's there is the truth, as I wrote it myself. [1] WAS 4.250 00:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
EC appeared on Have I Got News For You (Season 6, Episode 1 -- it's on YouTube) as Paul's guest with Derek Hatton as Ian's guest. I quote: "Derek and I were at school together." Cross Reference ( talk) 14:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
"after continually reiterating that a majority of British eggs were infected with salmonella her position came into jeopardy. The amount of eggs infected by salmonella was actually a minority citation needed, so when Margaret Thatcher stated "I had eggs for breakfast", this forced Currie's resignation. " Removed the above as unsourced. I'm sure we all have memories of this era, but let's get some sources, folks. Rich Farmbrough, 10:16 11 March 2007 (GMT).
" The Belvedere School" Currie says she didn't go there. Rich Farmbrough, 10:38 11 March 2007 (GMT).
We should really have a section on Currie's famous gaffes about keeping warm. Rich Farmbrough, 11:50 11 March 2007 (GMT).
You may like to know this article has actually been read and commented on by Edwina Currie. Look here for the article. Eagle Owl 10:26, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
The wording here is quite confusing. The UK and American meaning of "tabling" is quite different. In UK, it means put up for active consideration, I gather. In America, the meaning is more like removed from active consideration. I do not know the actual facts, but I assume the former meaning is intended.
Can someone that knows, fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.59.135.10 ( talk) 00:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Is this section really necessary? It gives off the impression that she's some kind of musical artist, which she isn't; I don't think releasing a charity-single is really a reason for this stupid title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.33.230.34 ( talk) 23:50, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to get a photo of just her!
JRPG (
talk)
18:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
It makes me laugh when it says "Currie (left)" I thought she was the one on the right... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.227.186.223 ( talk) 09:38, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Is the last sentence in that section (referring to Major's "Back to Basics" campaign) relevant to the subject of this article and to the account of the affair, without anything linking her to it? The campaign was a number of years after her affair with him, unrevealed until after his Premiership, ceased. Unless something can be produced that links her to this - say, cited reference to views she had on it, or anyone publicly commenting to link the campaign with the affair? - I would suggest it be deleted. Cloptonson ( talk) 21:48, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
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Not an experienced Wikipedian, but this section seems written rather unprofessionally written, particularly the following:
I feel like the inclusion of this needs to be justified and set into context, and really there should be something about her actual time as a minister if this sort of thing is going to be included as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:8642:0:DCBA:78EF:25CF:380A ( talk) 05:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)