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To make one thing clear up front, I am Edwards rep. in Denmark and as such you may find that this is a biased view?
However I can call me both his remote friend and his rep. - because I actually tried to debunk his "crap" for several years! What I got from this was a lot of knowledge on subject like pragmatism and positivism. The first is the indeed an open position that I can relate to, lateral thinking can be categorized as a pragmatic but also experimental approach. However the claim of positivism Critiques#1 is wrong and indeed that conclusion is what lead to my appliance with Edward in the first place.
Now how can I claim that, I can in several ways. First what is it that this guy (Edward) say, well let me quote directly.. and this is the very first words in the book, The mechanism of mind, 1969:
As you may know positivism is indeed taking the pseudo scientific position, that when we know everything about something, we will also be able to see and use the laws of nature! Edwards position seems to be somewhat different, and indeed his books does not produce any hard positivist evidence. The hypnotises about the brain may be 100% false, but actually the claim is simply that this 'hypnotises' led him to the concept of lateral thinking... amongst other stuff. No positivism in this?
And indeed there is not cognitivistic position to be found either - more factual knowledge has not falsified the hypotheses, so the stepping stone is still there - step up!
Further more the fathers of positivism was - and that is an other fact - the Greek gang of tree! Indeed this is how I learned about positivism - the guy who was hired to prove the positivist position ended up debunking that position and found that the positivism was founded by no other than Plato! (Please read into the work by |Karl R. Popper.
Now - when you go to one of the official trainer websites you will find a nice little story about the Greek gang of tree, and see parallel thinking is actually an pragmatic (or tactical) approach, and by this you can possibly - but not positively - out balance positivism!
Can this be the end of positivism, scientism and Cognitivism - I don't think so...... but I know that Edward de Bono is most probably not a huge fan of the positivistic approach? -- AssetDk ( talk) 20:41, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Further comment, from the same source. Now I can not claim to give you a positive proof for lateral thinking, but if lateral thinking can lead to a solution that can eliminate positivism - then that works for me! -- AssetDk ( talk) 20:53, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
I've gone through some of the things written here and decided to do some research. I've consulted the Penguin English Dictionary, since someone here listed it as a source, and indeed, it does verify that DEBONO is written "de Bono", and that his nationality is "BRITISH" and not Maltese. The removal of these facts from the article, and the elimination of other details garnered from research and the reading of his books, in the large deletion by Ronz and other Maltese users is unwarranted. Good faith was obviously lacking here; I believe Ronz and his cohorts were prompted to his edits by patriotic pride- they simply do not like some things de Bono has said/done and therefore want to eliminate them. Please, Ronz et. al., this is an encyclopedia and not a forum for the promulgation of sheding Malta and the Maltese in a positive light. I shall edit according to my research. If anyone would like to add a link to the online version of the penguin dictionary/encyclopedia (he is listed as BRITISH in both, and their facts are checked by a group of 38 researchers, I might add) then please do so - I do not think the issue of whether a man who was born in Malta but has not lived there in 55 years and is patently British requires a reference... and if it does then so does every single sentence on the wikipedia website. I mean, he even changed his surname for God's sake... you know... you'd think the Maltese could take a hint...
I'm really sorry for the non-Maltese people who care so much about this article. You are waisting your valuable time because wikipedia is a numbers game, and not a game of facts. The truth is the Maltese will always have their say on this article, even if what they write is false, simply because they have more numbers 'watching it' and eliminating edits as soon as they are posted. So the facts are suppressed. What is evident to me is that this has become about not hurting the feelings of small little sunny Malta by Big Bad Grey Britain. It's pathetic as the fuming Maltese typing furiously at their laptops to repudiate what the whole world knows - what the man himself says whenever he has spoken on the issue: that he is an Englishman born in Malta, as did Pete Hitchens. Why then is Pete Hitchens not Maltese? He was schooled in Malta and lived there for a decade or so in his childhood.
There is so much good written below that Maltese vandals have cut from this poor article. For example, someone removed how de bono is not a licensed psychologist despite being known as such in Malta, explaining he made the edit because the comments were 'trivial and negative'. Sour grapes again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.66.9.87 ( talk) 06:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
The appearance of the "lateral thinking" theme and lateral thinking puzzles in anime, both of which were coined and conceptualized by Edward de Bono (and thus not "coincidental"!), is entirely relevant when discussing the influence of the man and his work. Much is made of de Bono's work and influence in English-speaking countries such as the United Kingdom, the United States of America, and Australia, but his ideas surfacing in Japanese popular culture in the form of anime (a very popular and important medium in Japan) prove that his cross-cultural appeal extends to the sphere of popular culture as well as business culture. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.163.82.88 ( talk • contribs) 21:21, March 2, 2007 (UTC).
Roderick, Another Wikipedian has already clearly (and rather explicitly I might add) explained the situation of Dr. De Bono's nationality, and this is depicted below. I do not understand why you persist in re-editing our factual work to score points for Malta.I consider this very puerile behaviour for Malta's Administrator. Kindly refrain from misrepresentation with regards to this matter or I will have to report this page as frequently vandalised, like Adolf Hitler's. Is that really necessary? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.77.196.68 ( talk • contribs) .
Excuse me dear Anon but I also find your slandering quite childish and puerile for a lot of reasons:
Having said that, I demand at least an apology. -- Roderick Mallia 13:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Also it would be interesting to know what happened to my original question in this page. Since when are comments on talk pages deleted to make way for slandering comments? -- Roderick Mallia 13:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
You need to update your knowledge regarding what the term 'Nationality' means, and how its concepts are applied exactly. Nowadays, nationality is defined as 'the status of belonging to a nation', but this is often misinterpreted or misunderstood so as to read that a person's nationality cannot change or is determined by the country in which he/she was born. Edward De Bono is Maltese-born. That is the term you are looking for. Having lived in Britain for a number of years, his citizenship and hence nationality have since changed from his Malta years. For example, Zlatan Ibrahimovic is a Serbian-born Swedish footballer, and Edgar Davids is a Surinami- born Dutchman, Roman Polanski is a Polish-born Frenchman and Joe Adonis is an Italian-born American. This means they was born in their respective countries, but their nationalities have since changed due to their citizenships. Citizenship is usually awarded first, and comes with a work permit. Nationality follows according to different nations, for instance, in France it is five years, in Germany six, etc. Nationality usually entitles a person to hold a passport belonging to that nation, which is like a ticket that shows the person belongs to that nation. Edward De Bono holds a British Passport, British Citizenship and British nationality, therefore he is British and not Maltese. His ties to the Maltese nation, if you will, have 'expired', though they are not erased. I suggest you confirm what I have conferred about his nationality before wrongfully altering the British to Maltese yet again, and this can be achieved by looking up 'Lateral Thinking', in the 'Penguin English Dictionary 2nd Edition (to which he contributed and wrote the British part himself, might I add!). References to him being British are also available in the inside jacket of the penguin publication of his book 'Lateral Thinking'.
Hope you are no longer addled with regard to this issue, and that from now on we can represent the information that pertains to his nationality correctly.
James Cromwell U.O.S.
Oh... one last thing... his name isn't Debono. Its De Bono. He had it officially changed..
James Cromwell U.O.S. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.77.199.133 ( talk • contribs) .
It would be better to talk and reach some sort of consensus on the nationality question so as not to continue a edit war on the first paragraph. Wikipedia guidelines on Resolving disputes may be helpful here, as might be the AMA, although they seem to be a bit backed up. It seems that only one side of the arguments are on this page, although edits continue for both British and Maltese. Just some ideas. Maybe a poll is in order?
It would be interesting to know what difference it makes as to what de Bono's nationality really is - and de Bono is written with a small 'de' - I know for certain that he was born in Malta, that he has dual citizenship (UK and Malta passport), and that he spends most of his time travelling, literally living out of a suitcase, with a 'base' in different countries and continents including London in England, Melbourne in Australia and Zebbug in Malta. (White Hat - facts) Could we therefore consider him as a 'global citizen' as his contributions to the world have affected societies and organisations globally? (Green Hat - Possibility, Alternative) (FFMT - born and based in Malta) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by FFMT ( talk • contribs) 13:35, September 10, 2006 (UTC)
I do not think this is a matter of wars. I have e-mail Dr. DeBono's office for a clarification.. will be back as soon as I get an official reply 18:50, 9 December 2005 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maltesedog ( talk • contribs) .
will wait but hopefully at least we would have a reply which is official. i mean only for the last ten years he lived in channel islands.. what about before? he spent definitely something like 25 years in Malta if he graduated in Malta. What if he has dual citizenship? Maltesedog 19:12, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
There has been no reply from his office. Also the last comment, was unsigned. Maltesedog 18:25, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Malta was a British realm from De Bono's birth in 1933 until 1964. De Bono was a British resident by this time. So the whole time he lived in Malta there was no such thing as Maltese citizenship or any legal sort of "nationality" either. He would have been a British citizen from birth, who was *eligable* for Maltese citizenship (or dual citizenship) later in his life. It appears he has never taken this option up.
Now as for his "nationality", in any legal sense it must be British. In other senses, it might be Maltese, though for most of them he would have to believe it was so.
Note that Malta very nearly became an integral part of the UK in the 60's. If that had happened a list of the UK nations would read: England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Malta.
matturn 11:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank God, it didn't happen but. This point is irrelevant to the discussion. 212.56.128.165 12:35, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Should this article not be called Edward de Bono? (as in the Leonardo da Vinci article) — Donama 08:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
"However, critics argue that this method of deciding a drawn match completely ignores the goalkeeper's skill which can win a game for a team"
I am not yet sure if he said that the quote in that paragraph, it would be nice to get to the list of it. But if you think about it, a penalty will only happen if both teams have equal scores, like 1:1 In which case, the team whose goalie had to touch the ball more often in order to defend his goal, probably had a team that was unable to stop the other team from kicking at the goal. And thus, the whole team is worse, indeed favouring the more aggressive team. Soccer is a team play, and a single player shouldnt lead to the penalty kicking which really often has unfair results (especially if people dont kick at the same time, but instead kick one after the other, this can build up a lot of psychological pressure). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.108.103.172 ( talk) 14:57, August 20, 2007 (UTC)
The soccer reference seems too long for a biography about Edward de Bono. Pbachmann ( talk) 04:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I've moved this here from the article for discussion per WP:BLP. It's unsourced, and contains trivial and negative content:
There are several elements of Dr. de Bono's life that are much to the chagrin of certain members of Maltese society. Firstly, records indicate his surname was 'Debono' before he deliberately added a space between the first two letters of his name and the remaining four, and sought to capitalise the 'B' and lower case the 'd'. Although many Maltese still pronounce his name the way they see fit, for their own agenda, he personally makes a point of pausing between the 'de' and 'Bono', and rounds the two o's in his surname in a British manner, to make a sound like the word 'owe'. He once corrected a student during a talk at the University of Malta who said, 'Dr. Debono...'.
Dr. de bono refuses to speak the Maltese language, and this has led him to ignore his invitation to the Maltese TV talk show 'xarabank' on several occassions, after learning the show's host would not accomodate him by hosting the entire show in English. In Audio book versions of his publications, de Bono can be heard speaking with an affected British accent, albeit one that has been extremely well acquired.
Maltese University students are especially critical of his subjection to Her Majesty's crown, and it is well known that he is often referred to as being 'Maltese', even on wikipedia, despite having lived in the Channel Islands for over four decades, and in the UK for about five and half decades. Unlike countries such as Argentina, Maltese law has never enacted a binding clause on nationality for birth, meaning that Maltese nationality does not automatically stick with a person born to the Maltese Islands irrespective of their country of domicile.
Driving the point home, de Bono's office was contacted by staff members of the 'Penguin English Dictionary' 2nd Edition, published in 2003, to define 'lateral thinking' and its pioneer. The entry de Bono personally submitted for the latter reads 'concept defined by Edward de Bono b. 1933, British writer on thought processes'.
In Malta, particularly, many people think de Bono is a psychologist. This is untrue. Although de Bono does hold a joint psychology and philosophy degree, this qualification is insufficient for him to be refered to as a 'Psychologist' in both Malta and the United Kingdom, as in both countries, 'Psychologist' is a title protected by law, and for which certain, specified degrees/society memberships are required. In Malta, a psychologist is defined as having 'At least Master's Level Education in Psychology', and in Britain, a 'Psychologist' must carry a postgraduate degree approved for membership by the 'British Psychological Society', of which de Bono is not a member, and recognised at a 'GBR' Level. It must be said however that De bono, who is a medical doctor and may be referred to also as a 'philospher', has worked in organisational psychology for well over thirty years.
-- Ronz ( talk) 17:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree.
-- Pbachmann ( talk) 01:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
There are commercial organisations associated with de Bono that would be of legitimate interest to some people reading this article, but whenever any of them have put their name on this article it gets deleted as spam.
Is there a way to make everyone happy?
I suggest that these organisations are listed at the bottom of the article under four separate headings:
-- Pbachmann ( talk) 00:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I've just read through spam policy and decided that maybe we should have a comment in this section along the lines of the following:
When editing this section please observe the following rules:
- Never add a link to your own site unless it is hidden inside a comment (awaiting uncommenting by an impartial editor).
- State either your name or the name of your company, and very briefly (several words) what it does.
- Do not insert multiple links to the same organisation.
--01:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Ronz deleted this:
"As with ideas, Edward de Bono has been prodigious in his invention of games, only two of which are listed here:"
complaining about "Peacock terms, unsourced".
If I change prodigious to prolific, can we put it back?
He has created many games, eg. There is the de Bono mind pack where he included about 6 orginal games. How would you like me to referennce this?
--
Pbachmann (
talk) 21:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Ronz,
Please explain out why you deleted an entire section:
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Pbachmann (
talk) 22:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Ronz,
Harassment? You tore our my well intentioned work in a clumsy, thoughtless way, offering little reason for your action and no alternative text to put in its place. Who is harassing whom?
Why don't you address the points I have made in the previous post?
If you don't have time to do thoughtful editing, why not wait until you have the time to do it properly?
--01:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
>> As in your focusing on attacking me rather than discussing the edits
Ronz, there is no truth in this. I have not said anything about Ronz the person (other than I think you should use your real name), everything I have said is about the changes your made.
And you don't want talk about the changes because you "don't have enough time."
And I'm saying, please find the time to discuss, consult, offer alternatives etc etc or please leave the article alone.
-- Pbachmann ( talk) 04:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
My edit summaries are a bit confusing. I'll try to summarize here once I'm done. -- Ronz ( talk) 05:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Since I do not want my contributions to be removed by Harry the Dirty Dog et al., I will not be doing any more work on this biography.
-- Pbachmann ( talk) 00:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I've moved the following from the article to here for discussion. -- Ronz ( talk) 02:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
The reliability and efficacy of CoRT, Lateral Thinking, and the Six Thinking Hats have not been validated. Edward De Bono's claims about their effectiveness and robustness are almost entirely anecdotal and should be treated with due skepticism. The following two excerpts represent a common opinion of De Bono's work found among experts in the same field.
In the Handbook of Creativity, Robert J. Sternberg writes, "Equally damaging to the scientific study of creativity, in our view, has been the takeover of the field, in the popular mind, by those who follow what might be referred to as a pragmatic approach. Those taking this approach have been concerned primarily with developing creativity, secondarily with understanding it, but almost not at all with testing the validity of their ideas about it." Sternberg continues, "Perhaps the foremost proponent of this approach is Edward De Bono, whose work on lateral thinking and other aspects of creativity has had what appears to be considerable commercial success." [1]
Frameworks For Thinking is a comprehensive evaluation of forty-two popular thinking frameworks conducted by a team of researchers. Regarding Edward De Bono they write, "[he] is more interested in the usefulness of developing ideas than proving the reliability or efficacy of his approach. There is sparse research evidence to show that generalised improvements in thinking performance can be attributed to training in the use of CoRT or Thinking Hats tools. An early evaluation of CoRT reported significant benefits for Special Educational Needs (SEN) pupils.... However, in a more recent study with Australian aboriginal children (Ritchie and Edwards, 1996), little evidence of generalisation was found other than in the area of creative thinking." [2]
OK guys, answer this simple question: How can a person libel himself? Because that is what you are claiming is happening here. Self-published sources are perfectly acceptable in cases like this. Your actions really are not doing Wikipedia any credit. Harry the Dog WOOF 21:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW, if WP:BLP really is the concern, why is this discussion and the earlier one being left on the TP? WP:BLP is clear that if consensus is that something is a violation, all mention should be removed on the TP as well. Just amused that this and the earlier discussions have been allowed to remain because they quite clearly repeat the allegations. Harry the Dog WOOF 21:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I have removed the whole section because the sourcing is inadequate for a BLP. The allegation was sourced to the claimants own website and this is not a reliable source for a serious allegation about the probity of a living person. Lots of famous people get accused of stuff but the allegations are only relevant if they are picked up in mainstream secondary sources and discussed there. Anything else is simply an aggregation of rumour and possible libels. I have no real objection to the section but it must be sourced to a secondary source to show that it is a notable enough allegation to be worth including. Otherwise if we simply take primary sources we end up as deciding on the notability of the allegation ourselves and that's not what we do. Please do not readd the section without further discussion. Spartaz Humbug! 20:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
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In my opinion this section must have a reliable source that is independent of both sides of the argument to be included. Otherwise a person could accuse do Bono of pretty much anything and have it included, with some refutation to provide an appearance of neutrality. The onus is upon Harry to provide such a source, as the BLP policy is very clear on this, as has been noted. The length of time the poorly sourced section has stood is not relevant here. I support the actions of Spartaz here. Kevin ( talk) 10:00, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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melon 10:42, 25 August 2008 (UTC)Much of what is said about de Bono's ideas, involving Marmite and seven words, sounds like a sarcastic parody. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.253.9 ( talk) 11:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
I've fixed the glaring nonsense that has de Bono listed as 'British'. He's as Maltese as hobz biz-zejt.. even if he does speak like a ponce. the roof of this court is too high to be yours ( talk) 22:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
See http://www.enermaxinc.com/directional-drilling/ This site notes that horizontal drilling goes back to 1939. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.121.127 ( talk) 15:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
The www.davincithinking.org needs more detail. de Bono is a member of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.101.111 ( talk) 15:28, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
From De Bono Site:
"MESSAGE FOR WEEK BEGINNING 26th January 2009
Wikipedia
Try looking me up in Wikipedia. You will probably find some very weak and slightly negative comments. In fact one set of comments was written by an academic who is rather jealous of my success. Wikipedia does, unfortunately, provide a platform for such jealousy.
I suggest you send a message to Wikipedia with your own views and comments. You might want to mention that I have been appointed European Union ambassador for thinking for the Year of Creativity.
Edward de Bono 20th January 2009 " (accessed 9 march 2009) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.71.33.153 ( talk) 08:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
We need to see a reliable source that states that de Bono has taken out British citizenship before we change his nationality. Without such a source, we have no evidence that he is no longer a Maltese citizen. Perhaps a compromise would be to say he is a "Maltese-born physician living in the UK" and leave it at that, making no mention of his nationality. Harry the Dog WOOF 14:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I was following the 'battle' and there were two paragraphes. Were are they now?
By the way, here in Japan he identifies hisself as a british. I made a calls to some companies were he workes and they have a bio as a british. He calls hisself british and come to japan for work - that the tv company must apply for applicant - with a british visa. We had a tvs shows some years back and he was introduced in british and spoke english —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.243.233.165 ( talk) 23:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
So Harry The Dog, from one Maltese to another is it your opinion than that his own testimony is worthless? What more evidence than a book in print of such prestige do you need? As the Brits wrote the penguin dict. is a prestiguous organization and we should take heed. Have you and your cabal even bothered to check the book? De bono has to approve the entry on his person, do you know that? By your statement, harry dog, as written above, then De bono is either really British or a liar, trying to tell people through the dictionary and his other books, and his appearances in Japan according to someone else as written above, that he's British when he's really not. So you're saying Edward de bono, great Maltese professor is really a liar who's ashamed of his nationality. That's your position? I'm sorry but as a neutral who couldn't care or give a single Euro cent whether he's British or Maltese, I really think the Maltese group for this argument has been unprofessional and completely undemocratic. If the article is changed to say Maltese (and I am sure you will change it) than you have won by numbers not reality. There is printed nowhere in recent books that he is Maltese, wheras on the side of the British they have the evidence of the penguin, his personal statements in Japan if you believe the Japanese who weighed in, and other books. I have my penguin and I found lateral thinking in it - where is yours, Harry The Dog? Where is your friend's?
Is there a reliable source to say he is British? He may have dual nationality, Maltese ( jus soli) and British Naturalization(?), is there a reliable source to say he has a British passport?. If a reliable source can not be found to say he is British or has a British passport then it makes no sense to have him listed as British. IRWolfie- ( talk) 19:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Also, the article refers to his background as "upper class". It would be more accurate to describe his upbringing as "upper-middle class" since his family possessed neither hereditary titles (typically required to be considered upper class in Britain) nor extreme wealth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.52.242.166 ( talk) 12:56, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
For those disputing nationality, I am Edward de Bono's eldest son and I have a copy of his birth certificate. He was born in Malta, May 19th 1933.
From a legal perspective, he has joint citizenship Malta/UK, is domiciled and resident in Malta as a returned Maltese migrant, which might help disambiguate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaspardeB ( talk • contribs) 07:24, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
I took the liberty of adding the {{ Infobox person}}; it could use some filling-out, but I figured I'd leave that to people more familiar with his work. Also I removed the picture--you could hardly see him. I won't object if someone wants to put it back, but maybe we have a better picture of him somewhere. -- Fang Aili talk 16:37, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Since someone thinks the section called 'Ideas' is 'written like a personal reflection or opinion essay rather than an encyclopedic description of the subject', why not rename the section to 'Trivia'? And the so-called idea is repeated in the criticism-section (last sentence). That seems like an overkill. Arne J B ( talk) 18:36, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
This appears to be false. It turns out there is no list of "shortlisted" for the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics, at least not a published one. Limit-theorem ( talk) 10:33, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone know what degrees and honorary degrees he has been awarded? This list seems incomplete. He seems to have also honorary doctor in psychology and physiology and Honorary Doctorate of Letters from Manchester Metropolitan. Also, which degrees did he get through regular study? I am assuming the degree in medicine and MA, but any others? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.207.146 ( talk) 12:12, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Having been reverted without explanation by User:Mlpearc, I am bringing the matter to the talk page. What concerns do you have with the changes? 207.161.217.209 ( talk) 02:05, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
"In this book, he proposed a suite of new words based on numbers, where each number combination represents a useful idea or situation that currently does not have a single-word representation"
Actually in his code summary, a few are one word... "chat", "patchy", "mediocre", "disappointing", "crisis". There are also 2 word summaries - e.g. "let's talk". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legowolf3d ( talk • contribs) 11:24, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
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Does anyone have a primary citation for this? I do not own The Book Of General Ignorance. It may sound amusing, but it is quite an accusation really. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.233.78.214 ( talk) 16:04, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Removed until someone gives a primary reference. I'm going to track down the book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.41.131.252 ( talk) 17:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
I happened on this article and saw the note re the 'other ideas' para, which is, I agree, a little woolly. But nowhere does the article attempt to explain De Bono's actual concepts and ideas, as expressed in his writings, moving straight to some very peripheral ideas (like the infamous 'Marmite') and to critiques of his work, which hasn't been mentioned in any detail.
Surely what he did and thought is more important (in terms of this article) than what critics thought of his work. The latter should of course be said, since the usefulness of his work is disputed. But the fact that his work is disputed doesn't mean that the views of those who dispute it deserve more space than De Bono's own.
Sure, there are articles on lateral thinking and his Six Hats concept, but it would be useful (and is common practice on WP) to summarize them in this article under the heading 'Work' or similar, with a link to the full article. The Other Ideas could then be tacked on there. I don't have the time or expertise to do this (though I once attended a De Bono seminar) but commend it to someone better qualified as a small but useful project Chrismorey ( talk) 08:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
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To make one thing clear up front, I am Edwards rep. in Denmark and as such you may find that this is a biased view?
However I can call me both his remote friend and his rep. - because I actually tried to debunk his "crap" for several years! What I got from this was a lot of knowledge on subject like pragmatism and positivism. The first is the indeed an open position that I can relate to, lateral thinking can be categorized as a pragmatic but also experimental approach. However the claim of positivism Critiques#1 is wrong and indeed that conclusion is what lead to my appliance with Edward in the first place.
Now how can I claim that, I can in several ways. First what is it that this guy (Edward) say, well let me quote directly.. and this is the very first words in the book, The mechanism of mind, 1969:
As you may know positivism is indeed taking the pseudo scientific position, that when we know everything about something, we will also be able to see and use the laws of nature! Edwards position seems to be somewhat different, and indeed his books does not produce any hard positivist evidence. The hypnotises about the brain may be 100% false, but actually the claim is simply that this 'hypnotises' led him to the concept of lateral thinking... amongst other stuff. No positivism in this?
And indeed there is not cognitivistic position to be found either - more factual knowledge has not falsified the hypotheses, so the stepping stone is still there - step up!
Further more the fathers of positivism was - and that is an other fact - the Greek gang of tree! Indeed this is how I learned about positivism - the guy who was hired to prove the positivist position ended up debunking that position and found that the positivism was founded by no other than Plato! (Please read into the work by |Karl R. Popper.
Now - when you go to one of the official trainer websites you will find a nice little story about the Greek gang of tree, and see parallel thinking is actually an pragmatic (or tactical) approach, and by this you can possibly - but not positively - out balance positivism!
Can this be the end of positivism, scientism and Cognitivism - I don't think so...... but I know that Edward de Bono is most probably not a huge fan of the positivistic approach? -- AssetDk ( talk) 20:41, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Further comment, from the same source. Now I can not claim to give you a positive proof for lateral thinking, but if lateral thinking can lead to a solution that can eliminate positivism - then that works for me! -- AssetDk ( talk) 20:53, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
I've gone through some of the things written here and decided to do some research. I've consulted the Penguin English Dictionary, since someone here listed it as a source, and indeed, it does verify that DEBONO is written "de Bono", and that his nationality is "BRITISH" and not Maltese. The removal of these facts from the article, and the elimination of other details garnered from research and the reading of his books, in the large deletion by Ronz and other Maltese users is unwarranted. Good faith was obviously lacking here; I believe Ronz and his cohorts were prompted to his edits by patriotic pride- they simply do not like some things de Bono has said/done and therefore want to eliminate them. Please, Ronz et. al., this is an encyclopedia and not a forum for the promulgation of sheding Malta and the Maltese in a positive light. I shall edit according to my research. If anyone would like to add a link to the online version of the penguin dictionary/encyclopedia (he is listed as BRITISH in both, and their facts are checked by a group of 38 researchers, I might add) then please do so - I do not think the issue of whether a man who was born in Malta but has not lived there in 55 years and is patently British requires a reference... and if it does then so does every single sentence on the wikipedia website. I mean, he even changed his surname for God's sake... you know... you'd think the Maltese could take a hint...
I'm really sorry for the non-Maltese people who care so much about this article. You are waisting your valuable time because wikipedia is a numbers game, and not a game of facts. The truth is the Maltese will always have their say on this article, even if what they write is false, simply because they have more numbers 'watching it' and eliminating edits as soon as they are posted. So the facts are suppressed. What is evident to me is that this has become about not hurting the feelings of small little sunny Malta by Big Bad Grey Britain. It's pathetic as the fuming Maltese typing furiously at their laptops to repudiate what the whole world knows - what the man himself says whenever he has spoken on the issue: that he is an Englishman born in Malta, as did Pete Hitchens. Why then is Pete Hitchens not Maltese? He was schooled in Malta and lived there for a decade or so in his childhood.
There is so much good written below that Maltese vandals have cut from this poor article. For example, someone removed how de bono is not a licensed psychologist despite being known as such in Malta, explaining he made the edit because the comments were 'trivial and negative'. Sour grapes again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.66.9.87 ( talk) 06:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
The appearance of the "lateral thinking" theme and lateral thinking puzzles in anime, both of which were coined and conceptualized by Edward de Bono (and thus not "coincidental"!), is entirely relevant when discussing the influence of the man and his work. Much is made of de Bono's work and influence in English-speaking countries such as the United Kingdom, the United States of America, and Australia, but his ideas surfacing in Japanese popular culture in the form of anime (a very popular and important medium in Japan) prove that his cross-cultural appeal extends to the sphere of popular culture as well as business culture. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.163.82.88 ( talk • contribs) 21:21, March 2, 2007 (UTC).
Roderick, Another Wikipedian has already clearly (and rather explicitly I might add) explained the situation of Dr. De Bono's nationality, and this is depicted below. I do not understand why you persist in re-editing our factual work to score points for Malta.I consider this very puerile behaviour for Malta's Administrator. Kindly refrain from misrepresentation with regards to this matter or I will have to report this page as frequently vandalised, like Adolf Hitler's. Is that really necessary? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.77.196.68 ( talk • contribs) .
Excuse me dear Anon but I also find your slandering quite childish and puerile for a lot of reasons:
Having said that, I demand at least an apology. -- Roderick Mallia 13:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Also it would be interesting to know what happened to my original question in this page. Since when are comments on talk pages deleted to make way for slandering comments? -- Roderick Mallia 13:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
You need to update your knowledge regarding what the term 'Nationality' means, and how its concepts are applied exactly. Nowadays, nationality is defined as 'the status of belonging to a nation', but this is often misinterpreted or misunderstood so as to read that a person's nationality cannot change or is determined by the country in which he/she was born. Edward De Bono is Maltese-born. That is the term you are looking for. Having lived in Britain for a number of years, his citizenship and hence nationality have since changed from his Malta years. For example, Zlatan Ibrahimovic is a Serbian-born Swedish footballer, and Edgar Davids is a Surinami- born Dutchman, Roman Polanski is a Polish-born Frenchman and Joe Adonis is an Italian-born American. This means they was born in their respective countries, but their nationalities have since changed due to their citizenships. Citizenship is usually awarded first, and comes with a work permit. Nationality follows according to different nations, for instance, in France it is five years, in Germany six, etc. Nationality usually entitles a person to hold a passport belonging to that nation, which is like a ticket that shows the person belongs to that nation. Edward De Bono holds a British Passport, British Citizenship and British nationality, therefore he is British and not Maltese. His ties to the Maltese nation, if you will, have 'expired', though they are not erased. I suggest you confirm what I have conferred about his nationality before wrongfully altering the British to Maltese yet again, and this can be achieved by looking up 'Lateral Thinking', in the 'Penguin English Dictionary 2nd Edition (to which he contributed and wrote the British part himself, might I add!). References to him being British are also available in the inside jacket of the penguin publication of his book 'Lateral Thinking'.
Hope you are no longer addled with regard to this issue, and that from now on we can represent the information that pertains to his nationality correctly.
James Cromwell U.O.S.
Oh... one last thing... his name isn't Debono. Its De Bono. He had it officially changed..
James Cromwell U.O.S. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.77.199.133 ( talk • contribs) .
It would be better to talk and reach some sort of consensus on the nationality question so as not to continue a edit war on the first paragraph. Wikipedia guidelines on Resolving disputes may be helpful here, as might be the AMA, although they seem to be a bit backed up. It seems that only one side of the arguments are on this page, although edits continue for both British and Maltese. Just some ideas. Maybe a poll is in order?
It would be interesting to know what difference it makes as to what de Bono's nationality really is - and de Bono is written with a small 'de' - I know for certain that he was born in Malta, that he has dual citizenship (UK and Malta passport), and that he spends most of his time travelling, literally living out of a suitcase, with a 'base' in different countries and continents including London in England, Melbourne in Australia and Zebbug in Malta. (White Hat - facts) Could we therefore consider him as a 'global citizen' as his contributions to the world have affected societies and organisations globally? (Green Hat - Possibility, Alternative) (FFMT - born and based in Malta) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by FFMT ( talk • contribs) 13:35, September 10, 2006 (UTC)
I do not think this is a matter of wars. I have e-mail Dr. DeBono's office for a clarification.. will be back as soon as I get an official reply 18:50, 9 December 2005 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maltesedog ( talk • contribs) .
will wait but hopefully at least we would have a reply which is official. i mean only for the last ten years he lived in channel islands.. what about before? he spent definitely something like 25 years in Malta if he graduated in Malta. What if he has dual citizenship? Maltesedog 19:12, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
There has been no reply from his office. Also the last comment, was unsigned. Maltesedog 18:25, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Malta was a British realm from De Bono's birth in 1933 until 1964. De Bono was a British resident by this time. So the whole time he lived in Malta there was no such thing as Maltese citizenship or any legal sort of "nationality" either. He would have been a British citizen from birth, who was *eligable* for Maltese citizenship (or dual citizenship) later in his life. It appears he has never taken this option up.
Now as for his "nationality", in any legal sense it must be British. In other senses, it might be Maltese, though for most of them he would have to believe it was so.
Note that Malta very nearly became an integral part of the UK in the 60's. If that had happened a list of the UK nations would read: England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Malta.
matturn 11:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank God, it didn't happen but. This point is irrelevant to the discussion. 212.56.128.165 12:35, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Should this article not be called Edward de Bono? (as in the Leonardo da Vinci article) — Donama 08:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
"However, critics argue that this method of deciding a drawn match completely ignores the goalkeeper's skill which can win a game for a team"
I am not yet sure if he said that the quote in that paragraph, it would be nice to get to the list of it. But if you think about it, a penalty will only happen if both teams have equal scores, like 1:1 In which case, the team whose goalie had to touch the ball more often in order to defend his goal, probably had a team that was unable to stop the other team from kicking at the goal. And thus, the whole team is worse, indeed favouring the more aggressive team. Soccer is a team play, and a single player shouldnt lead to the penalty kicking which really often has unfair results (especially if people dont kick at the same time, but instead kick one after the other, this can build up a lot of psychological pressure). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.108.103.172 ( talk) 14:57, August 20, 2007 (UTC)
The soccer reference seems too long for a biography about Edward de Bono. Pbachmann ( talk) 04:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I've moved this here from the article for discussion per WP:BLP. It's unsourced, and contains trivial and negative content:
There are several elements of Dr. de Bono's life that are much to the chagrin of certain members of Maltese society. Firstly, records indicate his surname was 'Debono' before he deliberately added a space between the first two letters of his name and the remaining four, and sought to capitalise the 'B' and lower case the 'd'. Although many Maltese still pronounce his name the way they see fit, for their own agenda, he personally makes a point of pausing between the 'de' and 'Bono', and rounds the two o's in his surname in a British manner, to make a sound like the word 'owe'. He once corrected a student during a talk at the University of Malta who said, 'Dr. Debono...'.
Dr. de bono refuses to speak the Maltese language, and this has led him to ignore his invitation to the Maltese TV talk show 'xarabank' on several occassions, after learning the show's host would not accomodate him by hosting the entire show in English. In Audio book versions of his publications, de Bono can be heard speaking with an affected British accent, albeit one that has been extremely well acquired.
Maltese University students are especially critical of his subjection to Her Majesty's crown, and it is well known that he is often referred to as being 'Maltese', even on wikipedia, despite having lived in the Channel Islands for over four decades, and in the UK for about five and half decades. Unlike countries such as Argentina, Maltese law has never enacted a binding clause on nationality for birth, meaning that Maltese nationality does not automatically stick with a person born to the Maltese Islands irrespective of their country of domicile.
Driving the point home, de Bono's office was contacted by staff members of the 'Penguin English Dictionary' 2nd Edition, published in 2003, to define 'lateral thinking' and its pioneer. The entry de Bono personally submitted for the latter reads 'concept defined by Edward de Bono b. 1933, British writer on thought processes'.
In Malta, particularly, many people think de Bono is a psychologist. This is untrue. Although de Bono does hold a joint psychology and philosophy degree, this qualification is insufficient for him to be refered to as a 'Psychologist' in both Malta and the United Kingdom, as in both countries, 'Psychologist' is a title protected by law, and for which certain, specified degrees/society memberships are required. In Malta, a psychologist is defined as having 'At least Master's Level Education in Psychology', and in Britain, a 'Psychologist' must carry a postgraduate degree approved for membership by the 'British Psychological Society', of which de Bono is not a member, and recognised at a 'GBR' Level. It must be said however that De bono, who is a medical doctor and may be referred to also as a 'philospher', has worked in organisational psychology for well over thirty years.
-- Ronz ( talk) 17:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree.
-- Pbachmann ( talk) 01:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
There are commercial organisations associated with de Bono that would be of legitimate interest to some people reading this article, but whenever any of them have put their name on this article it gets deleted as spam.
Is there a way to make everyone happy?
I suggest that these organisations are listed at the bottom of the article under four separate headings:
-- Pbachmann ( talk) 00:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I've just read through spam policy and decided that maybe we should have a comment in this section along the lines of the following:
When editing this section please observe the following rules:
- Never add a link to your own site unless it is hidden inside a comment (awaiting uncommenting by an impartial editor).
- State either your name or the name of your company, and very briefly (several words) what it does.
- Do not insert multiple links to the same organisation.
--01:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Ronz deleted this:
"As with ideas, Edward de Bono has been prodigious in his invention of games, only two of which are listed here:"
complaining about "Peacock terms, unsourced".
If I change prodigious to prolific, can we put it back?
He has created many games, eg. There is the de Bono mind pack where he included about 6 orginal games. How would you like me to referennce this?
--
Pbachmann (
talk) 21:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Ronz,
Please explain out why you deleted an entire section:
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Pbachmann (
talk) 22:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Ronz,
Harassment? You tore our my well intentioned work in a clumsy, thoughtless way, offering little reason for your action and no alternative text to put in its place. Who is harassing whom?
Why don't you address the points I have made in the previous post?
If you don't have time to do thoughtful editing, why not wait until you have the time to do it properly?
--01:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
>> As in your focusing on attacking me rather than discussing the edits
Ronz, there is no truth in this. I have not said anything about Ronz the person (other than I think you should use your real name), everything I have said is about the changes your made.
And you don't want talk about the changes because you "don't have enough time."
And I'm saying, please find the time to discuss, consult, offer alternatives etc etc or please leave the article alone.
-- Pbachmann ( talk) 04:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
My edit summaries are a bit confusing. I'll try to summarize here once I'm done. -- Ronz ( talk) 05:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Since I do not want my contributions to be removed by Harry the Dirty Dog et al., I will not be doing any more work on this biography.
-- Pbachmann ( talk) 00:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I've moved the following from the article to here for discussion. -- Ronz ( talk) 02:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
The reliability and efficacy of CoRT, Lateral Thinking, and the Six Thinking Hats have not been validated. Edward De Bono's claims about their effectiveness and robustness are almost entirely anecdotal and should be treated with due skepticism. The following two excerpts represent a common opinion of De Bono's work found among experts in the same field.
In the Handbook of Creativity, Robert J. Sternberg writes, "Equally damaging to the scientific study of creativity, in our view, has been the takeover of the field, in the popular mind, by those who follow what might be referred to as a pragmatic approach. Those taking this approach have been concerned primarily with developing creativity, secondarily with understanding it, but almost not at all with testing the validity of their ideas about it." Sternberg continues, "Perhaps the foremost proponent of this approach is Edward De Bono, whose work on lateral thinking and other aspects of creativity has had what appears to be considerable commercial success." [1]
Frameworks For Thinking is a comprehensive evaluation of forty-two popular thinking frameworks conducted by a team of researchers. Regarding Edward De Bono they write, "[he] is more interested in the usefulness of developing ideas than proving the reliability or efficacy of his approach. There is sparse research evidence to show that generalised improvements in thinking performance can be attributed to training in the use of CoRT or Thinking Hats tools. An early evaluation of CoRT reported significant benefits for Special Educational Needs (SEN) pupils.... However, in a more recent study with Australian aboriginal children (Ritchie and Edwards, 1996), little evidence of generalisation was found other than in the area of creative thinking." [2]
OK guys, answer this simple question: How can a person libel himself? Because that is what you are claiming is happening here. Self-published sources are perfectly acceptable in cases like this. Your actions really are not doing Wikipedia any credit. Harry the Dog WOOF 21:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW, if WP:BLP really is the concern, why is this discussion and the earlier one being left on the TP? WP:BLP is clear that if consensus is that something is a violation, all mention should be removed on the TP as well. Just amused that this and the earlier discussions have been allowed to remain because they quite clearly repeat the allegations. Harry the Dog WOOF 21:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I have removed the whole section because the sourcing is inadequate for a BLP. The allegation was sourced to the claimants own website and this is not a reliable source for a serious allegation about the probity of a living person. Lots of famous people get accused of stuff but the allegations are only relevant if they are picked up in mainstream secondary sources and discussed there. Anything else is simply an aggregation of rumour and possible libels. I have no real objection to the section but it must be sourced to a secondary source to show that it is a notable enough allegation to be worth including. Otherwise if we simply take primary sources we end up as deciding on the notability of the allegation ourselves and that's not what we do. Please do not readd the section without further discussion. Spartaz Humbug! 20:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
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In my opinion this section must have a reliable source that is independent of both sides of the argument to be included. Otherwise a person could accuse do Bono of pretty much anything and have it included, with some refutation to provide an appearance of neutrality. The onus is upon Harry to provide such a source, as the BLP policy is very clear on this, as has been noted. The length of time the poorly sourced section has stood is not relevant here. I support the actions of Spartaz here. Kevin ( talk) 10:00, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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melon 10:42, 25 August 2008 (UTC)Much of what is said about de Bono's ideas, involving Marmite and seven words, sounds like a sarcastic parody. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.253.9 ( talk) 11:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
I've fixed the glaring nonsense that has de Bono listed as 'British'. He's as Maltese as hobz biz-zejt.. even if he does speak like a ponce. the roof of this court is too high to be yours ( talk) 22:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
See http://www.enermaxinc.com/directional-drilling/ This site notes that horizontal drilling goes back to 1939. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.121.127 ( talk) 15:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
The www.davincithinking.org needs more detail. de Bono is a member of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.101.111 ( talk) 15:28, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
From De Bono Site:
"MESSAGE FOR WEEK BEGINNING 26th January 2009
Wikipedia
Try looking me up in Wikipedia. You will probably find some very weak and slightly negative comments. In fact one set of comments was written by an academic who is rather jealous of my success. Wikipedia does, unfortunately, provide a platform for such jealousy.
I suggest you send a message to Wikipedia with your own views and comments. You might want to mention that I have been appointed European Union ambassador for thinking for the Year of Creativity.
Edward de Bono 20th January 2009 " (accessed 9 march 2009) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.71.33.153 ( talk) 08:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
We need to see a reliable source that states that de Bono has taken out British citizenship before we change his nationality. Without such a source, we have no evidence that he is no longer a Maltese citizen. Perhaps a compromise would be to say he is a "Maltese-born physician living in the UK" and leave it at that, making no mention of his nationality. Harry the Dog WOOF 14:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I was following the 'battle' and there were two paragraphes. Were are they now?
By the way, here in Japan he identifies hisself as a british. I made a calls to some companies were he workes and they have a bio as a british. He calls hisself british and come to japan for work - that the tv company must apply for applicant - with a british visa. We had a tvs shows some years back and he was introduced in british and spoke english —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.243.233.165 ( talk) 23:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
So Harry The Dog, from one Maltese to another is it your opinion than that his own testimony is worthless? What more evidence than a book in print of such prestige do you need? As the Brits wrote the penguin dict. is a prestiguous organization and we should take heed. Have you and your cabal even bothered to check the book? De bono has to approve the entry on his person, do you know that? By your statement, harry dog, as written above, then De bono is either really British or a liar, trying to tell people through the dictionary and his other books, and his appearances in Japan according to someone else as written above, that he's British when he's really not. So you're saying Edward de bono, great Maltese professor is really a liar who's ashamed of his nationality. That's your position? I'm sorry but as a neutral who couldn't care or give a single Euro cent whether he's British or Maltese, I really think the Maltese group for this argument has been unprofessional and completely undemocratic. If the article is changed to say Maltese (and I am sure you will change it) than you have won by numbers not reality. There is printed nowhere in recent books that he is Maltese, wheras on the side of the British they have the evidence of the penguin, his personal statements in Japan if you believe the Japanese who weighed in, and other books. I have my penguin and I found lateral thinking in it - where is yours, Harry The Dog? Where is your friend's?
Is there a reliable source to say he is British? He may have dual nationality, Maltese ( jus soli) and British Naturalization(?), is there a reliable source to say he has a British passport?. If a reliable source can not be found to say he is British or has a British passport then it makes no sense to have him listed as British. IRWolfie- ( talk) 19:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Also, the article refers to his background as "upper class". It would be more accurate to describe his upbringing as "upper-middle class" since his family possessed neither hereditary titles (typically required to be considered upper class in Britain) nor extreme wealth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.52.242.166 ( talk) 12:56, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
For those disputing nationality, I am Edward de Bono's eldest son and I have a copy of his birth certificate. He was born in Malta, May 19th 1933.
From a legal perspective, he has joint citizenship Malta/UK, is domiciled and resident in Malta as a returned Maltese migrant, which might help disambiguate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaspardeB ( talk • contribs) 07:24, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
I took the liberty of adding the {{ Infobox person}}; it could use some filling-out, but I figured I'd leave that to people more familiar with his work. Also I removed the picture--you could hardly see him. I won't object if someone wants to put it back, but maybe we have a better picture of him somewhere. -- Fang Aili talk 16:37, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Since someone thinks the section called 'Ideas' is 'written like a personal reflection or opinion essay rather than an encyclopedic description of the subject', why not rename the section to 'Trivia'? And the so-called idea is repeated in the criticism-section (last sentence). That seems like an overkill. Arne J B ( talk) 18:36, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
This appears to be false. It turns out there is no list of "shortlisted" for the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics, at least not a published one. Limit-theorem ( talk) 10:33, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone know what degrees and honorary degrees he has been awarded? This list seems incomplete. He seems to have also honorary doctor in psychology and physiology and Honorary Doctorate of Letters from Manchester Metropolitan. Also, which degrees did he get through regular study? I am assuming the degree in medicine and MA, but any others? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.207.146 ( talk) 12:12, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Having been reverted without explanation by User:Mlpearc, I am bringing the matter to the talk page. What concerns do you have with the changes? 207.161.217.209 ( talk) 02:05, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
"In this book, he proposed a suite of new words based on numbers, where each number combination represents a useful idea or situation that currently does not have a single-word representation"
Actually in his code summary, a few are one word... "chat", "patchy", "mediocre", "disappointing", "crisis". There are also 2 word summaries - e.g. "let's talk". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legowolf3d ( talk • contribs) 11:24, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
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Does anyone have a primary citation for this? I do not own The Book Of General Ignorance. It may sound amusing, but it is quite an accusation really. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.233.78.214 ( talk) 16:04, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Removed until someone gives a primary reference. I'm going to track down the book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.41.131.252 ( talk) 17:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
I happened on this article and saw the note re the 'other ideas' para, which is, I agree, a little woolly. But nowhere does the article attempt to explain De Bono's actual concepts and ideas, as expressed in his writings, moving straight to some very peripheral ideas (like the infamous 'Marmite') and to critiques of his work, which hasn't been mentioned in any detail.
Surely what he did and thought is more important (in terms of this article) than what critics thought of his work. The latter should of course be said, since the usefulness of his work is disputed. But the fact that his work is disputed doesn't mean that the views of those who dispute it deserve more space than De Bono's own.
Sure, there are articles on lateral thinking and his Six Hats concept, but it would be useful (and is common practice on WP) to summarize them in this article under the heading 'Work' or similar, with a link to the full article. The Other Ideas could then be tacked on there. I don't have the time or expertise to do this (though I once attended a De Bono seminar) but commend it to someone better qualified as a small but useful project Chrismorey ( talk) 08:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC)