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Controversies Tidy Up: Removed repetitions and redundant statements; rearranged parts to improve flow; removed “politically motivated” from the phrase in the fourth paragraph (mentioned in discussion below); noted instead the controversial nature of Monbiot’s article. Hopefully, this section now reads better (less clumsy), while maintaining all the pertinent controversies. -- User1756 ( talk) 22:39, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone have a suitable portrait photograph for the top of this article? -- User1756 ( talk) 22:27, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I removed the link to the Nouvelle Droite. Edward Goldsmith is not affiliated with the Nouvelle Droite. If I am not mistaken, he appeared once or twice at a Nouvelle Droite function with Alain de Benoist, but he has also appeared at many other kinds of functions, and therefore this does not indicate he belongs to the Nouvelle Droite.
This is, by the way, not meant as an attack on the Nouvelle Droite. 128.164.61.53 ( talk) 15:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
This is an inflammatory and subjective way of characterising the New Right: "the intellectual elite of the neo-Nazi movement"
I propose that it be removed. I also propose that, if Goldsmith's association with the New Right be publicised here, an effort be undertaken to document all his associations, including with Trotskyists. Someone appears to be trying to paint Goldsmith as a crypto-fascist, which is not what wikipedia is for. 128.164.61.48 ( talk) 22:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Where's his far-right connections? I came to look on this page because they mentioned he died on Radio 4, they also mentioned his link to far-right organisations. But there is little on the page to mention it. I suspect it has been edited to play down this. I have absolutely no doubt that if it's mentioned on Radio 4 news, it is more than worthy to be mentioned on this page. It is not untypical of rich public-school taught kids to flirt with the far-Right, the irony being that Goldsmith's a Jew, so it is all more the despicable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.21.75 ( talk) 17:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
"Extreme" opinions Eric144 clearly harbours some strong opinions, which Eric144 is of course entitled to. However, Wikipedia entries must maintain neutrality at all times. As a result, some of the points Eric144 has included in the article require appropriate qualification to maintain some semblance of neutrality and factual accuracy. Hence why Eric144's points have been properly qualified, and will continue to be where necessary to maintain neutrality.
= User1756 ( talk) 22:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Monbiot’s article is a political analysis arguing from a partisan political point of view. Monbiot is entitled to a political position--there’s nothing wrong with that. Goldsmith’s rebuttal was in response to these political attacks on himself and his work, as can be clearly determined by reference to his rebuttal. The point is that the bulk of the Controversies cited in this article revolve around political differences, rather than say theoretical differences, or aesthetical differences, or cultural differences, or points of fact for example. This ought to be obvious--the contents and references in the Controversies section are clearly cited and seem rather unambiguous on this point. [This comment is in reference to the removal and subsequent reinstatement of a phrase in the Controversies section] -- User1756 ( talk) 23:04, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
There's no reason to have long lists of influences and associates present in the article. Important ones should be (and indeed already are) part of the prose of the article. There is also no reason to sport multiple links to his essays, when the site on which they are hosted is already listed as an external link. Shimeru ( talk) 19:49, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
I have a very serious problem once again with the biased editing of unregistered user User1756. The change from liberal to socialist and the removal of eventually are simply additions to the already present hagiograhy. Change them back or I will remove the whole edit again. Especially in the context of an extreme right wing charactar like Goldsmith.
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Far too many references to his CV or his website. Please see WP:RS. DuncanHill ( talk) 06:07, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
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Controversies Tidy Up: Removed repetitions and redundant statements; rearranged parts to improve flow; removed “politically motivated” from the phrase in the fourth paragraph (mentioned in discussion below); noted instead the controversial nature of Monbiot’s article. Hopefully, this section now reads better (less clumsy), while maintaining all the pertinent controversies. -- User1756 ( talk) 22:39, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone have a suitable portrait photograph for the top of this article? -- User1756 ( talk) 22:27, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I removed the link to the Nouvelle Droite. Edward Goldsmith is not affiliated with the Nouvelle Droite. If I am not mistaken, he appeared once or twice at a Nouvelle Droite function with Alain de Benoist, but he has also appeared at many other kinds of functions, and therefore this does not indicate he belongs to the Nouvelle Droite.
This is, by the way, not meant as an attack on the Nouvelle Droite. 128.164.61.53 ( talk) 15:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
This is an inflammatory and subjective way of characterising the New Right: "the intellectual elite of the neo-Nazi movement"
I propose that it be removed. I also propose that, if Goldsmith's association with the New Right be publicised here, an effort be undertaken to document all his associations, including with Trotskyists. Someone appears to be trying to paint Goldsmith as a crypto-fascist, which is not what wikipedia is for. 128.164.61.48 ( talk) 22:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Where's his far-right connections? I came to look on this page because they mentioned he died on Radio 4, they also mentioned his link to far-right organisations. But there is little on the page to mention it. I suspect it has been edited to play down this. I have absolutely no doubt that if it's mentioned on Radio 4 news, it is more than worthy to be mentioned on this page. It is not untypical of rich public-school taught kids to flirt with the far-Right, the irony being that Goldsmith's a Jew, so it is all more the despicable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.21.75 ( talk) 17:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
"Extreme" opinions Eric144 clearly harbours some strong opinions, which Eric144 is of course entitled to. However, Wikipedia entries must maintain neutrality at all times. As a result, some of the points Eric144 has included in the article require appropriate qualification to maintain some semblance of neutrality and factual accuracy. Hence why Eric144's points have been properly qualified, and will continue to be where necessary to maintain neutrality.
= User1756 ( talk) 22:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Monbiot’s article is a political analysis arguing from a partisan political point of view. Monbiot is entitled to a political position--there’s nothing wrong with that. Goldsmith’s rebuttal was in response to these political attacks on himself and his work, as can be clearly determined by reference to his rebuttal. The point is that the bulk of the Controversies cited in this article revolve around political differences, rather than say theoretical differences, or aesthetical differences, or cultural differences, or points of fact for example. This ought to be obvious--the contents and references in the Controversies section are clearly cited and seem rather unambiguous on this point. [This comment is in reference to the removal and subsequent reinstatement of a phrase in the Controversies section] -- User1756 ( talk) 23:04, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
There's no reason to have long lists of influences and associates present in the article. Important ones should be (and indeed already are) part of the prose of the article. There is also no reason to sport multiple links to his essays, when the site on which they are hosted is already listed as an external link. Shimeru ( talk) 19:49, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
I have a very serious problem once again with the biased editing of unregistered user User1756. The change from liberal to socialist and the removal of eventually are simply additions to the already present hagiograhy. Change them back or I will remove the whole edit again. Especially in the context of an extreme right wing charactar like Goldsmith.
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Far too many references to his CV or his website. Please see WP:RS. DuncanHill ( talk) 06:07, 4 June 2022 (UTC)