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I have deleted two of the schools under the public schools category. I think that only prestigious schools with a very rich history should be included. For a school to be included because it offers a program that is not very popular seems unfair. Kwazyutopia19 01:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)KwazyUtopia19
Catholic high schools used to be represented (like Jewish and Muslim schools) with a single example. Recently several more have been added. What should be the policy here? Should most of these schools go to their respective Borough articles, as well as to the various education lists for New York? Is it better to have more than one example, or should a policy of strict austerity (to avoid inevitable clogging and accumulation) be followed? —— Shakescene ( talk) 23:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Should Libraries, Museums, and/or Scientific research all be in this article. They can certainly be educational, as can a lot of similar things, but I wouldn't have thought they fell under the perview of this article (and there are many other NYC article dealing with similar things; culture, recreation etc.)? - Matthew238 00:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Could someone include Wagner College here? The school is really moving up and has a higher Princeton Review Selectivity Rating than Eugene Lang, Pace, and others in the list. Jeremy Peter Green 03:19, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Is Hunter College High School really a public high school? While it is tuition-free, it is not run under the banner of the New York Department of Education.
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 21:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
The paragraph about private schools currently reads:
There are approximately 900 additional privately run secular and religious schools in the city, some of which are among the top independent schools in the nation. [1] In 2008, the New York Sun letter graded the top private schools of New York City, ranking them from greatest to least, which went as follows [2]: Brearley School (A+), Collegiate School (A), Trinity School (A), Chapin School (A), Horace Mann School (A), Spence School (A), Dalton School (B+), Ramaz School (B+), Ethical Culture Fieldston School (B), Riverdale Country School (B), Poly Prep (B), Saint Anne's School (B), Packer Collegiate Institute (C), United Nations International School (C), Calhoun School (C), Dwight School (C), Nightingale-Bamford School (C), Browning School (C), Hewitt School (D), Trevor Day School (D), Birch Wathen Lenox School (D), Columbia Grammar & Preparatory School (D), and The Berkeley Caroll School (D).
I don't know enough about private schools in New York to attempt rewriting this myself, but compared with similar paragraphs in this article, this is clearly overkill that will bewilder non-New Yorkers. Perhaps the grades might (arguably) fit in a footnote, but what's needed when we mention only a couple of Catholic and a couple of Jewish and Muslim schools is something shorter that gives notable examples, preferably with an indication for outsiders of why they're notable (to parallel, for example, the Bronx High School of Science). There's slightly more space for individual schools in the borough articles' education sections (e.g. The Bronx#Education). —— Shakescene ( talk) 22:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
The first paragraph on higher education says that New York City has about 594,000 students. Later, the paragraph on CUNY says both that it has over 450,000 students and enrolls about half the college students in New York. As far as I can tell, (over) 450,000 is not half of 594,000. Could someone with more knowledge clarify this? -- Harel Newman ( talk) 04:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Instead of flipping back and forth between two sets of good-faith edits (I don't think any of them are vandalism), I suggest reorganizing the section and making clear how it's organized, either topically or alphabetically.
Rankings of various kinds are okay if they're reasonably grounded and if they're fully sourced, e.g., don't just name the magazine carrying them but give the article title, author, issue date, page number, and so on, with a proper reference.
Nick Levinson ( talk) 01:25, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
There is no "history" subsection, which is too bad. Being a large area, the city has sometimes done things that other areas could not consider.
Such is the case with "double grades" during the 1940s. There were A and B grades, relating not to ability but to age. The "A" classes started in (say) September, the "B" class started their year in January. A child barely too young to start the first grade in September, would enter grade 1B in January.
Children could skip half or full grades. Alternately, they could be held back a half-grade, to redo the semester. It was imaginative IMO and probably needs a short article of its own to be summarized here and at least referenced or "see also" from a bunch of other Education articles.
I'm trying to figure out where to put a Madrasa section. There are several throughout New York City. Darul Uloom New York, and others should be added.
Twillisjr ( talk) 05:21, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Article is lacking sources Crownch ( talk) 06:24, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I have deleted two of the schools under the public schools category. I think that only prestigious schools with a very rich history should be included. For a school to be included because it offers a program that is not very popular seems unfair. Kwazyutopia19 01:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)KwazyUtopia19
Catholic high schools used to be represented (like Jewish and Muslim schools) with a single example. Recently several more have been added. What should be the policy here? Should most of these schools go to their respective Borough articles, as well as to the various education lists for New York? Is it better to have more than one example, or should a policy of strict austerity (to avoid inevitable clogging and accumulation) be followed? —— Shakescene ( talk) 23:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Should Libraries, Museums, and/or Scientific research all be in this article. They can certainly be educational, as can a lot of similar things, but I wouldn't have thought they fell under the perview of this article (and there are many other NYC article dealing with similar things; culture, recreation etc.)? - Matthew238 00:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Could someone include Wagner College here? The school is really moving up and has a higher Princeton Review Selectivity Rating than Eugene Lang, Pace, and others in the list. Jeremy Peter Green 03:19, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Is Hunter College High School really a public high school? While it is tuition-free, it is not run under the banner of the New York Department of Education.
Image:City ed logo.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 21:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
The paragraph about private schools currently reads:
There are approximately 900 additional privately run secular and religious schools in the city, some of which are among the top independent schools in the nation. [1] In 2008, the New York Sun letter graded the top private schools of New York City, ranking them from greatest to least, which went as follows [2]: Brearley School (A+), Collegiate School (A), Trinity School (A), Chapin School (A), Horace Mann School (A), Spence School (A), Dalton School (B+), Ramaz School (B+), Ethical Culture Fieldston School (B), Riverdale Country School (B), Poly Prep (B), Saint Anne's School (B), Packer Collegiate Institute (C), United Nations International School (C), Calhoun School (C), Dwight School (C), Nightingale-Bamford School (C), Browning School (C), Hewitt School (D), Trevor Day School (D), Birch Wathen Lenox School (D), Columbia Grammar & Preparatory School (D), and The Berkeley Caroll School (D).
I don't know enough about private schools in New York to attempt rewriting this myself, but compared with similar paragraphs in this article, this is clearly overkill that will bewilder non-New Yorkers. Perhaps the grades might (arguably) fit in a footnote, but what's needed when we mention only a couple of Catholic and a couple of Jewish and Muslim schools is something shorter that gives notable examples, preferably with an indication for outsiders of why they're notable (to parallel, for example, the Bronx High School of Science). There's slightly more space for individual schools in the borough articles' education sections (e.g. The Bronx#Education). —— Shakescene ( talk) 22:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
The first paragraph on higher education says that New York City has about 594,000 students. Later, the paragraph on CUNY says both that it has over 450,000 students and enrolls about half the college students in New York. As far as I can tell, (over) 450,000 is not half of 594,000. Could someone with more knowledge clarify this? -- Harel Newman ( talk) 04:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Instead of flipping back and forth between two sets of good-faith edits (I don't think any of them are vandalism), I suggest reorganizing the section and making clear how it's organized, either topically or alphabetically.
Rankings of various kinds are okay if they're reasonably grounded and if they're fully sourced, e.g., don't just name the magazine carrying them but give the article title, author, issue date, page number, and so on, with a proper reference.
Nick Levinson ( talk) 01:25, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
There is no "history" subsection, which is too bad. Being a large area, the city has sometimes done things that other areas could not consider.
Such is the case with "double grades" during the 1940s. There were A and B grades, relating not to ability but to age. The "A" classes started in (say) September, the "B" class started their year in January. A child barely too young to start the first grade in September, would enter grade 1B in January.
Children could skip half or full grades. Alternately, they could be held back a half-grade, to redo the semester. It was imaginative IMO and probably needs a short article of its own to be summarized here and at least referenced or "see also" from a bunch of other Education articles.
I'm trying to figure out where to put a Madrasa section. There are several throughout New York City. Darul Uloom New York, and others should be added.
Twillisjr ( talk) 05:21, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Article is lacking sources Crownch ( talk) 06:24, 7 March 2014 (UTC)