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Both titles in the "Further reading" section hyphenate the phrase. Are there any more recent sources, and do they consistently hyphenate or not hyphenate the title? 66.234.222.96 ( talk) 03:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
The entry in the 2002 AP Stylebook regarding the hyphenating of the title is as follows:
"Editor in chief: Follow the style of the publication, but in general, no hyphens. Capitalize when used as a formal title before a name."
The entry in the 2014 AP Stylebook regarding the hyphenating of the title is as follows:
"editor-in-chief: Use hyphens and capitalize when used as a formal title before a name: Editor-in-Chief Horace Greeley. The hyphens, reflecting industry usage, are an exception to Webster's New World College Dictionary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.117.99.35 ( talk) 00:00, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to see a section on the etymology of using the term editor in chief, as opposed to managing editor, executive editor or otherwise. Why "chief"? Why "in chief?"
I also would like to see the etymology. I know what editor-in-chief and commander-in-chief mean, but no-where can I find where the "in-chief" suffix came from. As far as the english language goes, it doesn't make sense to me. Especially when you could just say chief editor or chief commander (which seem more grammatically correct). Again, I am not looking to understand what editor-in-chief is, but where the "in-chief" comes from. Is it derived from another language? How far back does it go? Did "in-chief" used to be more common? etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.170.205.178 ( talk) 17:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 03:40, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Editor in chief →
Editor-in-chief — For reasons stated by myself above, and for consistency
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Wikipedia's policy on article titles.Hi Cousins,
I've held the title and the role (avoiding the title) of editor in chief a number of times, and I don't think that the description in this article is vaguely accurate, in terms of giving the real feeling of the job. While the EIC's responsibilities can include those things, most of them are usually delegated to sub-editors.
The EIC is more of a coordinating role among the other editors; it's a management position. In smaller publications it will be more hands-on, though in larger ones, the EIC's role is to delegate and coordinate (and yes to set policy). It's not merely a staff management position, it's a news management position, meaning that there are editorial priorities that need to be set from day to day.
The EIC will usually chair the editorial board, and is the main liaison to the publisher; and the editorial board's contact point with the corporate board if there is one. And the EIC will be a liaison to the political community and the business community in the publication's coverage area.
So, I don't think it makes sense to list things like editing articles as primary duties. These are the duties of an editor - not the editor in chief.
Dioxinfreak ( talk) 02:06, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
A clarification needed note added in September 2020 asks: "And when an executive editor coexists with an editor-in-chief, what is the role of the executive editor?" While I can't answer to that question, I did happen upon a tangible example, that of The Boston Globe in 1988, see example masthead at this link (the Globe refers to its editor-in-chief simply as "editor"; in 1988 there was both an editor and executive editor). Hopefully someone with domain knowledge can provide some insight? Dmoore5556 ( talk) 05:07, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
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Both titles in the "Further reading" section hyphenate the phrase. Are there any more recent sources, and do they consistently hyphenate or not hyphenate the title? 66.234.222.96 ( talk) 03:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
The entry in the 2002 AP Stylebook regarding the hyphenating of the title is as follows:
"Editor in chief: Follow the style of the publication, but in general, no hyphens. Capitalize when used as a formal title before a name."
The entry in the 2014 AP Stylebook regarding the hyphenating of the title is as follows:
"editor-in-chief: Use hyphens and capitalize when used as a formal title before a name: Editor-in-Chief Horace Greeley. The hyphens, reflecting industry usage, are an exception to Webster's New World College Dictionary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.117.99.35 ( talk) 00:00, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to see a section on the etymology of using the term editor in chief, as opposed to managing editor, executive editor or otherwise. Why "chief"? Why "in chief?"
I also would like to see the etymology. I know what editor-in-chief and commander-in-chief mean, but no-where can I find where the "in-chief" suffix came from. As far as the english language goes, it doesn't make sense to me. Especially when you could just say chief editor or chief commander (which seem more grammatically correct). Again, I am not looking to understand what editor-in-chief is, but where the "in-chief" comes from. Is it derived from another language? How far back does it go? Did "in-chief" used to be more common? etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.170.205.178 ( talk) 17:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 03:40, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Editor in chief →
Editor-in-chief — For reasons stated by myself above, and for consistency
Bjenks (
talk)
10:40, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
or *'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with ~~~~
. Since
polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's policy on article titles.Hi Cousins,
I've held the title and the role (avoiding the title) of editor in chief a number of times, and I don't think that the description in this article is vaguely accurate, in terms of giving the real feeling of the job. While the EIC's responsibilities can include those things, most of them are usually delegated to sub-editors.
The EIC is more of a coordinating role among the other editors; it's a management position. In smaller publications it will be more hands-on, though in larger ones, the EIC's role is to delegate and coordinate (and yes to set policy). It's not merely a staff management position, it's a news management position, meaning that there are editorial priorities that need to be set from day to day.
The EIC will usually chair the editorial board, and is the main liaison to the publisher; and the editorial board's contact point with the corporate board if there is one. And the EIC will be a liaison to the political community and the business community in the publication's coverage area.
So, I don't think it makes sense to list things like editing articles as primary duties. These are the duties of an editor - not the editor in chief.
Dioxinfreak ( talk) 02:06, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
A clarification needed note added in September 2020 asks: "And when an executive editor coexists with an editor-in-chief, what is the role of the executive editor?" While I can't answer to that question, I did happen upon a tangible example, that of The Boston Globe in 1988, see example masthead at this link (the Globe refers to its editor-in-chief simply as "editor"; in 1988 there was both an editor and executive editor). Hopefully someone with domain knowledge can provide some insight? Dmoore5556 ( talk) 05:07, 9 March 2021 (UTC)