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@ Caro de Segeda and Amitchell125: Having written the original article in Estonian Wikipedia I am happy to see it translated here. Many thanks for that work and for developing it further!
Since a prospective good article should be of high quality, I have to mention that I have noticed several minor factual errors and inaccuracies I would like to correct. However, I am not sure whether it is okay to do so myself during the review process or would that only cause confusion. Let me know what you think, I could also list my comments here in the talk page one by one if needed although it would be more time consuming.
There could be some issues that require discussion but most of the things that caught my eye are really minor errors that would be easier for me to fix myself. Lixive ( talk) 15:35, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Great, thanks, I will start then and if I notice any bigger issue I will comment here on the talk page. Lixive ( talk) 13:59, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
@ Amitchell125, Caro de Segeda, and Frzzl:So, I started with my corrections and will add here a few thoughts before I finish for today:
First, I don't know what the standard is in English wikipedia regarding blockquotes from texts originally published in some other language but it seems to me that for most readers, quotes in original languange in the main text might be redundant. I don't say they should be deleted but for those who are interested in comparing the original and translation, the original in the footnote may be fairly sufficient. Is there any kind of general consensus in this question or what do you think about it?
Second, I would recommend to completely rewrite the introduction according to the main text as there are currently several inconsistencies between these two. I can do it myself at some point but my writings need serious copyediting so I hope you are ready for it in case I get "graphomania" :)
Third, I suppose that it is not necessary to cite the journalist Pekka Erelt regarding the claim that the "western" in the name of Occidental slowed down its expansion in Eastern Europe. Perhaps there are better sources that argue the same? Maybe User:Mithridates knows some? I mean, if it is only a statement by one journalist who is not an expert on constructed languages then maybe it is something that should not be in English Wikipedia while in Estonian Wikipedia it made more sense back then when I initially wrote it.
That's all for now, I will continue in the coming days. Lixive ( talk) 19:09, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
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@ Frzzl, CurryTime7-24, and Bruxton: I have boldly changed the hook to say "by the NKVD" rather than "from the NKVD" to improve the grammar. TSventon ( talk) 01:36, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
this sentence in 'Childhood and youth' The Wahl family had moved to Ukraine after his, a railway engineer
something obviously missing there, should it be 'his father, a railway engineer' Potholehotline ( talk) 02:59, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
in 'Life in independent Estonia a quote reads
"Among those who wanted to make weapons, I only remember one: my physics teacher, von Wahl."
is this a mistake in translation, one would think he wanted to bear a weapon, not fabricate one Potholehotline ( talk) 03:04, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
![]() | Edgar de Wahl has been listed as one of the
Language and literature good articles under the
good article criteria. If you can improve it further,
please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can
reassess it. Review: May 8, 2023. ( Reviewed version). |
![]() | This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
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![]() | A fact from Edgar de Wahl appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the
Did you know column on 17 May 2023 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
| ![]() |
![]() | This article contains a translation of Edgar de Wahl from es.wikipedia. ( 1150312296 et seq.) |
@ Caro de Segeda and Amitchell125: Having written the original article in Estonian Wikipedia I am happy to see it translated here. Many thanks for that work and for developing it further!
Since a prospective good article should be of high quality, I have to mention that I have noticed several minor factual errors and inaccuracies I would like to correct. However, I am not sure whether it is okay to do so myself during the review process or would that only cause confusion. Let me know what you think, I could also list my comments here in the talk page one by one if needed although it would be more time consuming.
There could be some issues that require discussion but most of the things that caught my eye are really minor errors that would be easier for me to fix myself. Lixive ( talk) 15:35, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Great, thanks, I will start then and if I notice any bigger issue I will comment here on the talk page. Lixive ( talk) 13:59, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
@ Amitchell125, Caro de Segeda, and Frzzl:So, I started with my corrections and will add here a few thoughts before I finish for today:
First, I don't know what the standard is in English wikipedia regarding blockquotes from texts originally published in some other language but it seems to me that for most readers, quotes in original languange in the main text might be redundant. I don't say they should be deleted but for those who are interested in comparing the original and translation, the original in the footnote may be fairly sufficient. Is there any kind of general consensus in this question or what do you think about it?
Second, I would recommend to completely rewrite the introduction according to the main text as there are currently several inconsistencies between these two. I can do it myself at some point but my writings need serious copyediting so I hope you are ready for it in case I get "graphomania" :)
Third, I suppose that it is not necessary to cite the journalist Pekka Erelt regarding the claim that the "western" in the name of Occidental slowed down its expansion in Eastern Europe. Perhaps there are better sources that argue the same? Maybe User:Mithridates knows some? I mean, if it is only a statement by one journalist who is not an expert on constructed languages then maybe it is something that should not be in English Wikipedia while in Estonian Wikipedia it made more sense back then when I initially wrote it.
That's all for now, I will continue in the coming days. Lixive ( talk) 19:09, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Bruxton (
talk)
15:20, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Created by Frzzl ( talk). Self-nominated at 11:02, 8 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Edgar de Wahl; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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QPQ: Done. |
@ Frzzl, CurryTime7-24, and Bruxton: I have boldly changed the hook to say "by the NKVD" rather than "from the NKVD" to improve the grammar. TSventon ( talk) 01:36, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
this sentence in 'Childhood and youth' The Wahl family had moved to Ukraine after his, a railway engineer
something obviously missing there, should it be 'his father, a railway engineer' Potholehotline ( talk) 02:59, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
in 'Life in independent Estonia a quote reads
"Among those who wanted to make weapons, I only remember one: my physics teacher, von Wahl."
is this a mistake in translation, one would think he wanted to bear a weapon, not fabricate one Potholehotline ( talk) 03:04, 17 May 2023 (UTC)